(12-10-2014 12:18 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Memphis and Tulane. Houston and SMU are working in tandem on contingency plans

Lol. Well, if Tulane sneaks in, at least all the us Houston fans can stop blaming our sorry 7-5 record for not getting picked. As for options---there aren't many. Going west, despite the excessive travel is about the only viable option. That was being seriuously looked at by Houston in January of 2013 (at the time i heard SMU and Houston were not on the same page). The option, a rebuilt western division, would require looking at newbie CUSA programs with potential (like UTSA, or LaTech) or Sunbelt schools like Texas St, Arky St, or UL-L).

I personally think B-12 expansion is possible. I think the Big12 is looking at options and contingencies like BYU, Cinci, Houston, SMU, Rice, Tulane, ECU, UConn, Memphis, UCF, and others. But I think the Big-12 will exhaust every option avaiable before they add G5 schools. If they do reluctantly add schools, I also don't think they would add any more than 2.

AAC Revenues (2014):

01.) University of Connecticut - $71,237,970
02.) Southern Methodist University - $49,657,375
03.) University of Central Florida - $48,505,062
04.) University of South Florida - $48,383,928
05.) University of Memphis - $45,956,125
06.) University of Cincinnati - $43,162,181
07.) University of Houston - $39,475,225
08.) Temple University - $38,600,086
09.) East Carolina University - $37,598,766
10.) University of Tulsa - $33,974,933
11.) Tulane University of Louisiana - $32,059,604

Wow. UConn really is a P5 school.

UConn & SMU: #1 and #2 here, and tied for #2 in academics.

AAC kills UConn Basketball??

Really? So we have Cincy, SMU, Memphis and Tulsa doesn't mean a thing?

I am confused...Houston has Ralph Sampson who was U Indiana head coach who coached Eric Gordon and assistant head coach of Houston Rockets, WOW, that is NBA top 10 team we are talking about.

What about UCF? Don't worry about UCF. Cause we are already better than last year's senior class. Plus we have all american BJ Taylor and Top JUCO wing coming plus the tallest player in CBB Tacko Fall. And we have UF's biggest target Chance McSpadden. UCF will turn it around very soon. This season already they will do a lot better than last year. UCF is a young team.

All I am saying is looking at the teams from top to bottom, almost everyone is making a leap into a more competitive team.

Big East??

Where is big time college football in Big East? That alone kills the discussion

BTW this talking of all Big 12 poaching American or even BYU is just a wishful thinking...

If UConn really worries about Cincy, Memphis or UCF leaving, so it makes a knee jerk reaction and joins Big East. That would just be a bone head move. At least wait till this expansion is over and wait and see.

Let me ask anyone this simple question: if B1G has an opportunity to expand, would UConn be all over the phones for B1G ADs and presidents? Why Louisville was so eager for last round's Big 12 expansion? And they almost destructed WVU's entry into Big 12, right? That was like a joke. When some guy hit on a girl and wanted to go out with that girl, the other one came in and wanted to tear the relationship apart. Ugly of course.

My point is every school in the AAC would be dreaming for a Power Five invite. That is just common sense. Louisville even preferred Big 12 over ACC. That is just how intriguing this process is.

Cincy, Memphis and UCF want to show commitment for this league. But one thing is called reality and cold cash money.

Nothing personal against Mike Aresco. We all want to make this work. But it is day and night in terms of competitiveness and $$ coming from Big 12 or AAC.

After all this is all about football as long as America remains this era of college sports. Football is KING. Texas? Oklahoma? OMG. If they come to my school, I bet it would be a fun game.

There are some UConn fans (a tiny minority) that think shutting down football will keep the basketball program in the top 10. That's not what the school wants to do.

UConn's goal is to join the B1G or ACC. That can't be accomplished by downgrading football. We just need to get football on track and improve attendance. UConn is easily a P5 school academically and athletically. Our only flaw is the quality of the football team in 2014, which can be improved.

(12-09-2014 07:41 PM)jwawker Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 07:34 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Kels Dayton is such a mediocre writer, it's no wonder he writes for "SportzEdge" (with a z... for that "edge") LMAO, I can't believe anyone would post it.

I love the pompous "directional" comments... Without UConns football association with ECU and UCF, you'd really be up sh!ts creek.

Not too familiar with you but you seem to like personal attacks. Pretty clear you did not actually read the article, because the "directional school" criticism was in reference to basketball, not football.

As if that matters. It is just lazy journalism. These guys need to find a new shtick.

(12-09-2014 07:19 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 07:13 PM)jwawker Wrote:  The author of the article says the AAC is gradually killing UConn men's basketball and it should go back to its regional roots, in the Big East. Obviously being in the AAC did not hurt UConn in 2013-14 but he does make some valid points. Football is years away from being where it was under Randy Edsall, and as several AAC schools have already found out, the weather at the Rent in the fall can be downright frightful, adding to the difficulty of ever attracting top recruits to New England.

http://sportzedge.com/2014/12/09/its-tim...-big-east/

Lol! I doubt UConn will become the next UAB.

Anyone who says the AAC is gradually killing UConn, has no idea about the AAC and the recruiting these programs are doing under this banner. Temple has always had a good program but expect that consistency to ratchet up with their recent recruiting. Houston just hired KELVIN SAMPSON and they're already looking much better than they did last year, when they beat UConn.

Puhhhlease... Basketball-Only conferences are ALMOST irrelevant. Football is the front door of the University. The NBE's most recent championship was in the mid 1980s, and they are on FS1.

This conf is having an off year. there are 4 or 5 schools that are usually good and all are down at the same time. Last year the BE stunk.

(12-10-2014 05:42 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  ..

If UConn really worries about Cincy, Memphis or UCF leaving, so it makes a knee jerk reaction and joins Big East.

I am sure UCONN worries about that, and Cincy and Memphis, and UCF worry about Uconn leaving as well.

Big East Homer really douched up this thread. How about we leave the petty (and most likely jealous) attacks out of it?

This conference is 2 years old. There is absoltely no sense in expecting everyone to have AAC pride, or even for everyone to hope it remains intact. We all have next to nothing in common, other than every single school here has the goal of moving into the P5.

If UConn chooses to go back to playing rivals St John's, Providence, Marquette, Seton Hall and Villanova - who we've played MUCH LONGER than anyone in the AAC and share a lot more history with - would it really be that much of a surprise? More rivalries, more basketball programs, more money, more games at the Garden vs. less exposure on ESPN, and a conference for football.

I doubt UConn is ready to make any moves, unless the unforeseen occurs and they get an invite to the B1G or ACC, but it's not an unreasonable talking point anymore with the threat of the next two best basketball programs being poached by the Big 12.

(12-10-2014 05:20 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  AAC Revenues (2014):

01.) University of Connecticut - $71,237,970
02.) Southern Methodist University - $49,657,375
03.) University of Central Florida - $48,505,062
04.) University of South Florida - $48,383,928
05.) University of Memphis - $45,956,125
06.) University of Cincinnati - $43,162,181
07.) University of Houston - $39,475,225
08.) Temple University - $38,600,086
09.) East Carolina University - $37,598,766
10.) University of Tulsa - $33,974,933
11.) Tulane University of Louisiana - $32,059,604

Wow. UConn really is a P5 school.

UConn & SMU: #1 and #2 here, and tied for #2 in academics.

Everything going forward will be focused around football. Here's the ranking of importance:

1. Football
2. Football
3. Football

UConn has great revenues but if we're being hoenst, they're inflated from the rest of the AAC due to basketball. Which is great, but also means that it really won't mean much in the grand scheme of expansion.

(12-09-2014 07:13 PM)jwawker Wrote:  The author of the article says the AAC is gradually killing UConn men's basketball and it should go back to its regional roots, in the Big East. Obviously being in the AAC did not hurt UConn in 2013-14 but he does make some valid points. Football is years away from being where it was under Randy Edsall, and as several AAC schools have already found out, the weather at the Rent in the fall can be downright frightful, adding to the difficulty of ever attracting top recruits to New England.

http://sportzedge.com/2014/12/09/its-tim...-big-east/

Bu-bye Uconn. We hardly knew ya. This stupid attitude is why the Old Big East failed. Didn't they just win the national title in BBall last year (in the AAC)? Talk about a quick trigger.....

Football runs the show. Get with the program Uconn or step off back into the scrub MAC.

How is Omaha a regional rival?

UConn would have made sense to go to the ACC back when the changes were made, but now you have to deal with what you have. The AAC is still young - we live in this instant gratification society and the fact is we will not know if the AAC becomes a true contender for a few years or if teams get picked off.

The idea of Tulane to the XII is really premature, but there was some XII blogger (non-Tulane fan) that explained why it could make sense:

http://big12fanatics.com/big-12-expansio...mage-pile/

The idea behind Tulane is to obtain a few passive benefits, add a good academic school, creep into SEC territory, and to add a football patsy that isn't going to disrupt their power structure.

Will it happen? No. There are reasons for adding Tulane, but I just don't think the XII is in the market for them.

This whole XII craze is actually kind of fun if you're a fan of a team that isn't going to get picked. :D

(12-10-2014 08:33 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 07:13 PM)jwawker Wrote:  The author of the article says the AAC is gradually killing UConn men's basketball and it should go back to its regional roots, in the Big East. Obviously being in the AAC did not hurt UConn in 2013-14 but he does make some valid points. Football is years away from being where it was under Randy Edsall, and as several AAC schools have already found out, the weather at the Rent in the fall can be downright frightful, adding to the difficulty of ever attracting top recruits to New England.

http://sportzedge.com/2014/12/09/its-tim...-big-east/

Bu-bye Uconn. We hardly knew ya. This stupid attitude is why the Old Big East failed. Didn't they just win the national title in BBall last year (in the AAC)? Talk about a quick trigger.....

Football runs the show. Get with the program Uconn or step off back into the scrub MAC.

Isn't that the whole point of the article? The article wants UConn to evaluate whether it wants to be associated with the AAC or the MAC, or neither.

Football doesn't run the show. Power 5 football runs the show. UConn was at a time winning BCS conference championships as recent as 4 years ago and is now losing to the worst football team in the nation thus making it the worst football team in the nation in a conference with 0 regional rivals, 0 historical rivals, and 7 conference members over 1,000 miles away from campus.

If Cinci and Memphis leave - UConn will absolutely consider another option.

(12-09-2014 07:37 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  It boggles my mind that UConn wasn't invited to the ACC years ago. It certainly deserved to be and seems a perfect fit.

They were a better cultural fit than Louisville. Our league would be much different if the ACC had picked UConn and Texhoma had left for the PAC12.

(12-09-2014 07:13 PM)jwawker Wrote:  The author of the article says the AAC is gradually killing UConn men's basketball and it should go back to its regional roots, in the Big East. Obviously being in the AAC did not hurt UConn in 2013-14 but he does make some valid points. Football is years away from being where it was under Randy Edsall, and as several AAC schools have already found out, the weather at the Rent in the fall can be downright frightful, adding to the difficulty of ever attracting top recruits to New England.

http://sportzedge.com/2014/12/09/its-tim...-big-east/

That blogger is an idiot. UConn has been in the AAC five minutes, nothing happening to UConn is a result of its conference affliation yet.

A lot of people are getting their knickers in a twist over nothing.

I could see UConn leaving for the Big East eventually. Here UConn isn't associated with what it considers it's peer schools. While it's football might suffer going independent there are no guarantees that they would do better in the AAC and it's basketball programs (men and women) could very well take major hits.

I don't see how going to the Big East helps UConn.

The AAC (right now) is not ideal for Cincy, Connecticut or South Florida fans who were used to the old Big East, but joining a bunch of privates schools and risking the welfare of the football program seems short sighted, especially with the growth potential the AAC has if the Big 12 doesn't take any AAC schools.

Cincinnati, Memphis and Temple are historically powerful basketball schools. Tulsa has a nice basketball history as well. SMU has shown they are willing to invest, and Larry Brown has turned them around in no time. Houston is trying to follow suit. South Florida's new coach has impressed me early.

If UConn wants to ditch football, then a move to the Big East might make sense. But given their current sports, they are in the best available situation.

Now, IF the AAC lost Cincinnati and Memphis to the Big 12, then it would make sense for UConn to leave, because their basketball program would then be at risk.