I can understand if the took the job. What I can't understand why he would be offered the job. Much like Buzz Peterson in 2007 Fritz walked into a situation that was set up for success. Not saying he isn't a good coach, but imo he needs a few years to prove himself. I'd be surprised if Houston took that kind of a gamble.

that's the thing. They might check him out, but I seriously doubt he is high on their list. Now if we win the conference next year and win a bowl game, good chance he is gone.

(12-09-2014 09:58 AM)slycat Wrote:  Houston's OC is Travis Bush, he was OC at TXST during their 2005 playoff run. Not sure they will keep him though. I could see him going to UH because it's back home for him but I don't think he jumps for that job after one year. Now maybe coach Hud...

If he's offered, IMO, he'll bolt. Brand new OCS, improving facilities, etc.

(12-09-2014 04:04 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  that's the thing. They might check him out, but I seriously doubt he is high on their list. Now if we win the conference next year and win a bowl game, good chance he is gone.

Yea, the word out of UH is that they're going after Doug Meacham, the TCU OC, and former UH Asst.

(12-09-2014 12:33 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 12:30 PM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 12:12 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 12:06 PM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 10:59 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Schools can fire them whenever they want, that's why kids should go to play for the school they like, not the coach. They are there to get a free education. Imagine how messed up it would be if kids could transfer without sitting out? Every time a kid got relegated to 2nd string he would leave... They are kids. Recruiting would never stop, it would be a free for all which would consist of the big schools poaching any star player they want from the G5.

Those are good points, it just seems that the players get the raw end when a coach decides he can cash in elsewhere. I don't blame the coaches for moving on though.

I hear ya, but the kids are under "contract" with the school, not the coach. The kids adult parents should make that clear when their kid is making a decision. It's hard to see but the sit out rule protects the kids more than it hurts them.... Limits the knee jerk reactions that kids seem to have about every little thing.

True, but it should be noted that the players are given one-year contracts, not multi-year contracts like coaches.

So are regular students who pay their own way.

If you think they're analogous then we have nothing to discuss. I'm glad you found another post of mine to reply to.

(12-09-2014 04:57 PM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 12:33 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 12:30 PM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 12:12 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 12:06 PM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  Those are good points, it just seems that the players get the raw end when a coach decides he can cash in elsewhere. I don't blame the coaches for moving on though.

I hear ya, but the kids are under "contract" with the school, not the coach. The kids adult parents should make that clear when their kid is making a decision. It's hard to see but the sit out rule protects the kids more than it hurts them.... Limits the knee jerk reactions that kids seem to have about every little thing.

True, but it should be noted that the players are given one-year contracts, not multi-year contracts like coaches.

So are regular students who pay their own way.

If you think they're analogous then we have nothing to discuss. I'm glad you found another post of mine to reply to.

I just don't buy into the athlete gets the raw end of the deal... They get a very good deal, many deals that aren't awarded to students who pay their way.

(12-09-2014 03:48 PM)gsu95 Wrote:  I like how guys on here speak for guys they never even met. I don't know Satterfield and don't know what he'd do. I do know what I'd do if I were a coach and a big time school came calling. I'd give App the chance to come close to matching. If they could, or made a good faith effort, I'd probably stay --- even knowing the fan base will turn on me in a New York minute if I lose too many games.

I didn't say he wouldn't leave for a g5 I said I think based off of all app has done for him he would stay. The key words to that are I THINK. Meaning it may not be fact but that's my opinion on it

(12-09-2014 03:54 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  I can understand if the took the job. What I can't understand why he would be offered the job. Much like Buzz Peterson in 2007 Fritz walked into a situation that was set up for success. Not saying he isn't a good coach, but imo he needs a few years to prove himself. I'd be surprised if Houston took that kind of a gamble.

I think this is correct. He inherited a sr laden offensive line that was the strength of the team. Years 2 and 3 will be the test. Don't get me wrong, I like everything I have seen but the sample size at GS is small. I hope you are correct.

There are a lot of good coaches out there. Ga State passed on Fritz and he was our second choice. He has done a great job and we are glad things worked out the way they did, but we are probably ok this year. If we win the SBC next year, we can worry a bit more.

(12-09-2014 05:42 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  There are a lot of good coaches out there. Ga State passed on Fritz and he was our second choice. He has done a great job and we are glad things worked out the way they did, but we are probably ok this year. If we win the SBC next year, we can worry a bit more.

You don't even need to win the title to get worried. Winning 8-4 consistently will get any coach noticed.

I will say that 450k will go a long, long way in Statesboro Georgia. I couldn't really blame him for taking a big job that paid seven digits, buy if it's just another G5 school in a big city that is paying 750-800k I think we could bump him up a little and keep him around. All that being said, he has only been here one year and has a whole lot more to prove before we start saying we want him to stay till he retires.

There are vacations to be taken and kids to send to school and yes getting out of Statesboro could be consider a pro when making a decision.

FWIW--The name Im hearing most is Tom Herman, OC at Ohio State. I think that's who they are most interested in. The word is that the administration wants an offensive minded HC who runs a pretty wide open offense. I think they are definitely very impressed with Fritz. He wins everywhere he goes and he has deep Texas recruiting ties, but his choice of offense is usually more ground based than I think they are looking for. So if Herman doesn't work out, I think they would look to guys like Lane Kiffin or Doug Meacham.

(12-09-2014 08:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  FWIW--The name Im hearing most is Tom Herman, OC at Ohio State. I think that's who they are most interested in. The word is that the administration wants an offensive minded HC who runs a pretty wide open offense. I think they are definitely very impressed with Fritz. He wins everywhere he goes and he has deep Texas recruiting ties, but his choice of offense is usually more ground based than I think they are looking for. So if Herman doesn't work out, I think they would look to guys like Lane Kiffin or Doug Meacham.

You don't think Kiffin is overqualified for the Houston job?

(12-09-2014 09:04 PM)sidslidkid Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 08:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  FWIW--The name Im hearing most is Tom Herman, OC at Ohio State. I think that's who they are most interested in. The word is that the administration wants an offensive minded HC who runs a pretty wide open offense. I think they are definitely very impressed with Fritz. He wins everywhere he goes and he has deep Texas recruiting ties, but his choice of offense is usually more ground based than I think they are looking for. So if Herman doesn't work out, I think they would look to guys like Lane Kiffin or Doug Meacham.

You don't think Kiffin is overqualified for the Houston job?

Supposedly he has reached out and expressed interest in the job. I think the job is attractive because there are great facilities, in a great recruiting area, and the program is not a rebuild. He can come in and win immediately. I doubt he would be here more than a couple of years if things went well. lol...maybe just one year.

(12-09-2014 09:04 PM)sidslidkid Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 08:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  FWIW--The name Im hearing most is Tom Herman, OC at Ohio State. I think that's who they are most interested in. The word is that the administration wants an offensive minded HC who runs a pretty wide open offense. I think they are definitely very impressed with Fritz. He wins everywhere he goes and he has deep Texas recruiting ties, but his choice of offense is usually more ground based than I think they are looking for. So if Herman doesn't work out, I think they would look to guys like Lane Kiffin or Doug Meacham.

You don't think Kiffin is overqualified for the Houston job?

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(12-09-2014 08:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  FWIW--The name Im hearing most is Tom Herman, OC at Ohio State. I think that's who they are most interested in. The word is that the administration wants an offensive minded HC who runs a pretty wide open offense. I think they are definitely very impressed with Fritz. He wins everywhere he goes and he has deep Texas recruiting ties, but his choice of offense is usually more ground based than I think they are looking for. So if Herman doesn't work out, I think they would look to guys like Lane Kiffin or Doug Meacham.

Everyone knows real football teams utilize a more open offense.

GSU losing 4 OL starters is way overblown. We do lose some good ones, in Frye and Daves, but none of those guys was recruited to zone block. They learned an entire new scheme in a couple months of practice. Our second best OL Foreman is back, and we have a few guys with good playing experience. Not to mention all the OL we redshirted.

(12-09-2014 04:24 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 04:04 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  that's the thing. They might check him out, but I seriously doubt he is high on their list. Now if we win the conference next year and win a bowl game, good chance he is gone.

Yea, the word out of UH is that they're going after Doug Meacham, the TCU OC, and former UH Asst.

Air Raid guy, makes sense.

Something tells me they wouldn't be happy with a strong commitment to running the ball after they've been airing it out so much.

I think an option offense in the AAC would be very successful though. We'll find out next year when Navy enters.

(12-10-2014 03:54 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  GSU losing 4 OL starters is way overblown. We do lose some good ones, in Frye and Daves, but none of those guys was recruited to zone block. They learned an entire new scheme in a couple months of practice. Our second best OL Foreman is back, and we have a few guys with good playing experience. Not to mention all the OL we redshirted.

Losing 4 starting senior OL cannot be overblown, those guys have been through a lot of fires together obviously. You can down play it all you want but I promise you it's a concern of your coaches. Not saying you will crumble without them but if you think you can plug in 4 new guys that haven't been playing together for 3-4 years and not miss a beat, I think you are kidding yourself.