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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
(12-04-2014 11:34 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: (12-04-2014 11:29 AM)PT_american Wrote: (12-04-2014 10:42 AM)msm96wolf Wrote: I think Banowskyi s is the G5 Ninja Swofford. Most people thought CUSA was out of luck with Bitcoin and Duck backups, apparently they had a deal with New Orleans no one really knew about.
http://www.nola.com/ragincajuns/index.ss...owl_e.html
The New Orleans Bowl is contracted with the Mountain West Conference for this season to fill the slot opposite the Sun Belt. However, Ferrante said there is a possibility the Mountain West won't have enough teams to fill all its spots.
If that is the case, Ferrante said a team from Conference USA would be selected.
Well the MWC has 7 bowl eligible teams and only 6 bowls. Are we assuming they get the access bowl and the backup for the cactus bowl in this scenario? That would be the 3rd team for the Cactus (1st access, 2nd Vegas). Not sure the Cactus bowl would be willing to do that.
They don't have a lot of choice. That's what the Cactus agreed to. They get the second pick after the access bowls have selected. Every non-CFP bowl knows they might move down a slot if their conference tie is granted more access bowl slots than expected.
yeah,I looked at it appears they don't have a choice-they have agreement with MWC. I started an entire thread asking people after seeing websites picking ECU in Cactus vs PAC 8, and many others having Temple in it as well. Combination of bad journalism and wishful thinking. MWC: 1. Las Vegas 2. Cactus (if PAC or Big 12 can't fill. 3. Poinsettia 4. New Mexico 5.Hawaii 6. Idaho Potato.7. New Orleans and the last 3 bowls can be traded if Air Force us bowl eligible and wants to play in Ft Worth in the Armed Forces Bowl. That's what I've figured out anyway...anyone else? Please,no more picks based on what you wish to happen. I wish ECU was going to the Peach but....
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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
(12-04-2014 11:04 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote: Well maybe UAB will get a chance to play a final game after all.
Yep, that's the only reason I would care about the in's and out's of the Nola bowl.
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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
(12-04-2014 04:57 PM)cotton1991 Wrote: (12-04-2014 11:04 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote: Well maybe UAB will get a chance to play a final game after all.
Yep, that's the only reason I would care about the in's and out's of the Nola bowl.
UAB will not be bowl bound per an Espin article today
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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
(12-04-2014 03:43 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: (12-04-2014 03:24 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: I believe next season we have 7 bowls for 12 teams...
2015 Season
BBVA Compass Bowl, Birmingham, Ala. – vs. SEC
Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl St. Petersburg, St. Petersburg, Fla. – vs. Conference USA
Miami Beach Bowl, Miami, Fla. – vs. Conference USA
Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman, Annapolis, Md. – vs. ACC
Sheraton Hawaii Bowl, Honolulu, Hawaii – vs. Mountain West
Boca Raton Bowl, Boca Raton, Fla. – vs. MAC
Cure Bowl, Orlando, Fla. - vs. Sun Belt
Some great travel destinations on that list...
I wonder if Aersco will be willing to sell a bowl slot again to get a different opponent in the Miami Bowl next year? That gamble blew up big time this year. First, even with getting BYU, ESPN gave it the worst bowl slot time of any bowl. Next, with BYU losing it's QB and not really having a backup was a very mediocre team. Finally, it may cost Temple a bowl game that would have been there.
It will be very interesting for 2015, I have a feeling the ACC will be offering them a team next season too get another bowl since the Orange Bowl will be a Semi. Probably, shipping CUSA to the cure bowl. Which I think CUSA will jump all over to get an Orlando bowl. After this season, do you gamble again on not being able to place a team in a bowl to get a low tier P5 opponent? One thing I think will help, the time slot might be better since the ACC prefers not to play in Pre-Christmas Bowls. I think Bitcoin is moving to Pre-Christmas because the ACC stated when it is the scheduled opponent, the game most be post Christmas.
Yes, I foresee Aresco giving up a bowl slot in order to get a better opponent in MBB. He has talked about it many times.
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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
BTW we need to get someone else in the MBB or get the access spot next year, because our bowls are pathetic next year.
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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
(12-04-2014 06:42 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: (12-04-2014 03:43 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: (12-04-2014 03:24 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: I believe next season we have 7 bowls for 12 teams...
2015 Season
BBVA Compass Bowl, Birmingham, Ala. – vs. SEC
Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl St. Petersburg, St. Petersburg, Fla. – vs. Conference USA
Miami Beach Bowl, Miami, Fla. – vs. Conference USA
Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman, Annapolis, Md. – vs. ACC
Sheraton Hawaii Bowl, Honolulu, Hawaii – vs. Mountain West
Boca Raton Bowl, Boca Raton, Fla. – vs. MAC
Cure Bowl, Orlando, Fla. - vs. Sun Belt
Some great travel destinations on that list...
I wonder if Aersco will be willing to sell a bowl slot again to get a different opponent in the Miami Bowl next year? That gamble blew up big time this year. First, even with getting BYU, ESPN gave it the worst bowl slot time of any bowl. Next, with BYU losing it's QB and not really having a backup was a very mediocre team. Finally, it may cost Temple a bowl game that would have been there.
It will be very interesting for 2015, I have a feeling the ACC will be offering them a team next season too get another bowl since the Orange Bowl will be a Semi. Probably, shipping CUSA to the cure bowl. Which I think CUSA will jump all over to get an Orlando bowl. After this season, do you gamble again on not being able to place a team in a bowl to get a low tier P5 opponent? One thing I think will help, the time slot might be better since the ACC prefers not to play in Pre-Christmas Bowls. I think Bitcoin is moving to Pre-Christmas because the ACC stated when it is the scheduled opponent, the game most be post Christmas.
Yes, I foresee Aresco giving up a bowl slot in order to get a better opponent in MBB. He has talked about it many times.
Certainly with 7 bowls for 12 teams I think it is an almost certainty he trades if he can. We need a strong opponent given the other matchups.
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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
I wouldn't mind dumping the Cure Bowl vs the Sun Belt and picking up a full tie in with the NOLA Bowl. We need a western bowl and there are not really many destinations that beat New Orleans. For a bottom end bowl you could do a lot worse.
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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
(12-04-2014 08:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: I wouldn't mind dumping the Cure Bowl vs the Sun Belt and picking up a full tie in with the NOLA Bowl. We need a western bowl and there are not really many destinations that beat New Orleans. For a bottom end bowl you could do a lot worse.
Not going to happen. Cure Bowl is run by UCF alumni and is going to be tied to whatever conference UCF is in.
(This post was last modified: 12-09-2014 04:09 PM by CitrusUCF.)
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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
(12-09-2014 04:09 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote: (12-04-2014 08:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: I wouldn't mind dumping the Cure Bowl vs the Sun Belt and picking up a full tie in with the NOLA Bowl. We need a western bowl and there are not really many destinations that beat New Orleans. For a bottom end bowl you could do a lot worse.
Not going to happen. Cure Bowl is run by UCF alumni and is going to be tied to whatever conference UCF is in.
The cure bowl might be our best bowl in Florida considering it is a football field. They just need more $$$ to move up the pecking order.
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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
(12-09-2014 04:18 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (12-09-2014 04:09 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote: (12-04-2014 08:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: I wouldn't mind dumping the Cure Bowl vs the Sun Belt and picking up a full tie in with the NOLA Bowl. We need a western bowl and there are not really many destinations that beat New Orleans. For a bottom end bowl you could do a lot worse.
Not going to happen. Cure Bowl is run by UCF alumni and is going to be tied to whatever conference UCF is in.
The cure bowl might be our best bowl in Florida considering it is a football field. They just need more $$$ to move up the pecking order.
the cure bowl can be a flagship bowl considering the venue......but the opponent is total crap. if they can somehow swing a contract with a P5 down the road...... that would be great..... maybe a location for the champion. maybe throw a bone to the pac next time around? is one thing to turn down miami in a baseball stadium...... its another to turn down a newly renovated citrus bowl vs the AAC champ.
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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
(12-09-2014 04:18 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (12-09-2014 04:09 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote: (12-04-2014 08:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: I wouldn't mind dumping the Cure Bowl vs the Sun Belt and picking up a full tie in with the NOLA Bowl. We need a western bowl and there are not really many destinations that beat New Orleans. For a bottom end bowl you could do a lot worse.
Not going to happen. Cure Bowl is run by UCF alumni and is going to be tied to whatever conference UCF is in.
The cure bowl might be our best bowl in Florida considering it is a football field. They just need more $$$ to move up the pecking order.
My point is nearly half the league is on the Mississippi or west of it. We have one-half of a bowl west of the Mississippi. The excuse we got for not taking the NOLA Bowl was we didnt want to play the Sunbelt. Well---if we have decided its ok to play the Sunbelt---then it makes sense to take NOLA in the west rather than stacking up Florida Bowls like cord wood.
Frankly, the bigger point is we need to work toward creating a relatively high end high pay-out bowl (Liberty level or better) that will function as the set post season destination for our champ. We have plenty of low end bowls---what we lack is a acceptable post season destination that is a reasonably prestigious reward for a conference champion. That would require significant investment on out part and would probably be in Florida. I'd like to see the conference owned Miami Bowl used for that role. If we set aside the money we get every year for conference performance (somewhere between 1.2 million and 6.3 million a year---we would have 7-36 million to utilize toward raising the MBB pay-out to a level capable of attracting a relatively high selection from a power conference.
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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
We do need a signature bowl, but I don't think Miami is the place for it. Orlando would be better. Or somewhere in Texas. Somewhere the locals will support it, and it isn't such a pain for a lot of teams to he to. Miami folks barely care about the Hurricanes unless they are winning.
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RE: FYI - CUSA backup for New Orleans Bowl
(12-09-2014 08:59 PM)72Tiger Wrote: We do need a signature bowl, but I don't think Miami is the place for it. Orlando would be better. Or somewhere in Texas. Somewhere the locals will support it, and it isn't such a pain for a lot of teams to he to. Miami folks barely care about the Hurricanes unless they are winning.
Its our bowl. We can move it where we wish. If Yulman was bigger that would be a great location. TDECU stadium is probably the perfect size---but Houston isn't the tourist destination New Orleans is.
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