(12-11-2014 11:35 AM)fjblair Wrote:  Most Southerners don't give a flying f**k about the civil war and couldn't care less that the South lost. Seems to me it was for the better. Maybe if I was born in 1862 instead of 1962. Yankees and non-Southerners vastly overstate the impact of the civil war as it pertains to the life of Southern people today.

The South lost? Holy Crap Batman, I've always been told it was a tactical retreat. Now about GAST Football, they've had 23 tactical retreats in two years, it appears they are bringing back the Coaching Staff next year, what changes? Definition of insanity pretty much dictates more of the same. Hopefully the guys closer to the programs see a plan or some movement, I just see more of the same. Maybe I'm looking too short term, but I definitely think the clock is ticking, and success on the field to turn this thing around in the stands needs to happen sooner rather than later.

(12-11-2014 11:52 AM)GSUNCSU Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:35 AM)fjblair Wrote:  Most Southerners don't give a flying f**k about the civil war and couldn't care less that the South lost. Seems to me it was for the better. Maybe if I was born in 1862 instead of 1962. Yankees and non-Southerners vastly overstate the impact of the civil war as it pertains to the life of Southern people today.

The South lost? Holy Crap Batman, I've always been told it was a tactical retreat. Now about GAST Football, they've had 23 tactical retreats in two years, it appears they are bringing back the Coaching Staff next year, what changes? Definition of insanity pretty much dictates more of the same. Hopefully the guys closer to the programs see a plan or some movement, I just see more of the same. Maybe I'm looking too short term, but I definitely think the clock is ticking, and success on the field to turn this thing around in the stands needs to happen sooner rather than later.

You're making a very complex issue very simple, and it's not. You can look at where we were scholarship wise and could have predicted the way this season would go for us before it even started. We were at a disadvantage from the get go when we couldn't increase our scholarship count due to having more people leaving than we were allowed to pick up with scholarships. And with a quick count of Ga South's numbers, it looks like you guys might have some trouble with this trap.

The answer? Well, it's looking like we can pick up a good chunk of a defense straight from UAB. As much as i hate their program going down, it could be our savior. I wouldn't have them close down just so that we can benefit, but as it happens we might.

(12-11-2014 12:19 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:52 AM)GSUNCSU Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:35 AM)fjblair Wrote:  Most Southerners don't give a flying f**k about the civil war and couldn't care less that the South lost. Seems to me it was for the better. Maybe if I was born in 1862 instead of 1962. Yankees and non-Southerners vastly overstate the impact of the civil war as it pertains to the life of Southern people today.

The South lost? Holy Crap Batman, I've always been told it was a tactical retreat. Now about GAST Football, they've had 23 tactical retreats in two years, it appears they are bringing back the Coaching Staff next year, what changes? Definition of insanity pretty much dictates more of the same. Hopefully the guys closer to the programs see a plan or some movement, I just see more of the same. Maybe I'm looking too short term, but I definitely think the clock is ticking, and success on the field to turn this thing around in the stands needs to happen sooner rather than later.

You're making a very complex issue very simple, and it's not. You can look at where we were scholarship wise and could have predicted the way this season would go for us before it even started. We were at a disadvantage from the get go when we couldn't increase our scholarship count due to having more people leaving than we were allowed to pick up with scholarships. And with a quick count of Ga South's numbers, it looks like you guys might have some trouble with this trap.

The answer? Well, it's looking like we can pick up a good chunk of a defense straight from UAB. As much as i hate their program going down, it could be our savior. I wouldn't have them close down just so that we can benefit, but as it happens we might.

Didn't a lot of opposing fans predict exactly what happened before the season started? We were all just haters back then. Good times.

I think a lot of folks had some guarded optimism that GSU might win 3 games or so, and at the start of the season it was tough to watch losses against NMSU and Air Force, but the team was more competitive and so some held their optimism. Then, as with many teams, the injuries just crushed this team, with its youth and lack of depth. I think by the end of the season I read we only had 16 scholarship players on the defense. What we've come to understand was just how badly the program was managed by Curry and AD Levick, so Miles and the coaches have had to start from square one. While the program is only 5 years old, in a sense it really only year 2 while jumping to FBS...not a great way to build but the other choices (stay FCS) weren't viable for the university. We had to make the jump, ready or not. Just my two cents....

(12-11-2014 12:59 PM)gsuncc Wrote:  I think a lot of folks had some guarded optimism that GSU might win 3 games or so, and at the start of the season it was tough to watch losses against NMSU and Air Force, but the team was more competitive and so some held their optimism. Then, as with many teams, the injuries just crushed this team, with its youth and lack of depth. I think by the end of the season I read we only had 16 scholarship players on the defense. What we've come to understand was just how badly the program was managed by Curry and AD Levick, so Miles and the coaches have had to start from square one. While the program is only 5 years old, in a sense it really only year 2 while jumping to FBS...not a great way to build but the other choices (stay FCS) weren't viable for the university. We had to make the jump, ready or not. Just my two cents....

Don't let panama hear you say that.

(12-11-2014 01:02 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 12:59 PM)gsuncc Wrote:  I think a lot of folks had some guarded optimism that GSU might win 3 games or so, and at the start of the season it was tough to watch losses against NMSU and Air Force, but the team was more competitive and so some held their optimism. Then, as with many teams, the injuries just crushed this team, with its youth and lack of depth. I think by the end of the season I read we only had 16 scholarship players on the defense. What we've come to understand was just how badly the program was managed by Curry and AD Levick, so Miles and the coaches have had to start from square one. While the program is only 5 years old, in a sense it really only year 2 while jumping to FBS...not a great way to build but the other choices (stay FCS) weren't viable for the university. We had to make the jump, ready or not. Just my two cents....

Don't let panama hear you say that.

I'll let Panama speak for himself, but I don't think he'd disagree with much of what I wrote.

(12-11-2014 01:05 PM)gsuncc Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 01:02 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 12:59 PM)gsuncc Wrote:  I think a lot of folks had some guarded optimism that GSU might win 3 games or so, and at the start of the season it was tough to watch losses against NMSU and Air Force, but the team was more competitive and so some held their optimism. Then, as with many teams, the injuries just crushed this team, with its youth and lack of depth. I think by the end of the season I read we only had 16 scholarship players on the defense. What we've come to understand was just how badly the program was managed by Curry and AD Levick, so Miles and the coaches have had to start from square one. While the program is only 5 years old, in a sense it really only year 2 while jumping to FBS...not a great way to build but the other choices (stay FCS) weren't viable for the university. We had to make the jump, ready or not. Just my two cents....

Don't let panama hear you say that.

I'll let Panama speak for himself, but I don't think he'd disagree with much of what I wrote.

I tried saying ya'll were at square one when Miles stepped on campus just a few weeks ago and all I got was "He fixed the offense in one year, now it's time to fix the defense."

So yea, he would.

(12-11-2014 12:46 PM)Klak Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 12:19 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:52 AM)GSUNCSU Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:35 AM)fjblair Wrote:  Most Southerners don't give a flying f**k about the civil war and couldn't care less that the South lost. Seems to me it was for the better. Maybe if I was born in 1862 instead of 1962. Yankees and non-Southerners vastly overstate the impact of the civil war as it pertains to the life of Southern people today.

The South lost? Holy Crap Batman, I've always been told it was a tactical retreat. Now about GAST Football, they've had 23 tactical retreats in two years, it appears they are bringing back the Coaching Staff next year, what changes? Definition of insanity pretty much dictates more of the same. Hopefully the guys closer to the programs see a plan or some movement, I just see more of the same. Maybe I'm looking too short term, but I definitely think the clock is ticking, and success on the field to turn this thing around in the stands needs to happen sooner rather than later.

You're making a very complex issue very simple, and it's not. You can look at where we were scholarship wise and could have predicted the way this season would go for us before it even started. We were at a disadvantage from the get go when we couldn't increase our scholarship count due to having more people leaving than we were allowed to pick up with scholarships. And with a quick count of Ga South's numbers, it looks like you guys might have some trouble with this trap.

The answer? Well, it's looking like we can pick up a good chunk of a defense straight from UAB. As much as i hate their program going down, it could be our savior. I wouldn't have them close down just so that we can benefit, but as it happens we might.

Didn't a lot of opposing fans predict exactly what happened before the season started? We were all just haters back then. Good times.

No. No you didn't. Everyone said we would win 1-2 Sun Belt games.

(12-11-2014 11:52 AM)GSUNCSU Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:35 AM)fjblair Wrote:  Most Southerners don't give a flying f**k about the civil war and couldn't care less that the South lost. Seems to me it was for the better. Maybe if I was born in 1862 instead of 1962. Yankees and non-Southerners vastly overstate the impact of the civil war as it pertains to the life of Southern people today.

The South lost? Holy Crap Batman, I've always been told it was a tactical retreat. Now about GAST Football, they've had 23 tactical retreats in two years, it appears they are bringing back the Coaching Staff next year, what changes? Definition of insanity pretty much dictates more of the same. Hopefully the guys closer to the programs see a plan or some movement, I just see more of the same. Maybe I'm looking too short term, but I definitely think the clock is ticking, and success on the field to turn this thing around in the stands needs to happen sooner rather than later.

"Retreat, hell! We're not retreating, we're just advancing in a different direction."

Oliver P. Smith

(12-11-2014 03:15 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:52 AM)GSUNCSU Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:35 AM)fjblair Wrote:  Most Southerners don't give a flying f**k about the civil war and couldn't care less that the South lost. Seems to me it was for the better. Maybe if I was born in 1862 instead of 1962. Yankees and non-Southerners vastly overstate the impact of the civil war as it pertains to the life of Southern people today.

The South lost? Holy Crap Batman, I've always been told it was a tactical retreat. Now about GAST Football, they've had 23 tactical retreats in two years, it appears they are bringing back the Coaching Staff next year, what changes? Definition of insanity pretty much dictates more of the same. Hopefully the guys closer to the programs see a plan or some movement, I just see more of the same. Maybe I'm looking too short term, but I definitely think the clock is ticking, and success on the field to turn this thing around in the stands needs to happen sooner rather than later.

"Retreat, hell! We're not retreating, we're just advancing in a different direction."

Oliver P. Smith

I apologize, I remember from my military days it was actually called a tactical retrograde. And as far as the UAB defense basically relocating to GAST, that may require more persuading than you think to talk guys to come into a 1-23 program (modern day) since the first three years are no longer counted. You may get some, but I think that will be limited. The 5-7 win season (overall) is in my opinion a stretch 2-4 most likely.

Are we there yet?

(12-11-2014 08:12 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  Are we there yet?

I love Ice Cube!

(12-11-2014 03:27 PM)GSUNCSU Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 03:15 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:52 AM)GSUNCSU Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:35 AM)fjblair Wrote:  Most Southerners don't give a flying f**k about the civil war and couldn't care less that the South lost. Seems to me it was for the better. Maybe if I was born in 1862 instead of 1962. Yankees and non-Southerners vastly overstate the impact of the civil war as it pertains to the life of Southern people today.

The South lost? Holy Crap Batman, I've always been told it was a tactical retreat. Now about GAST Football, they've had 23 tactical retreats in two years, it appears they are bringing back the Coaching Staff next year, what changes? Definition of insanity pretty much dictates more of the same. Hopefully the guys closer to the programs see a plan or some movement, I just see more of the same. Maybe I'm looking too short term, but I definitely think the clock is ticking, and success on the field to turn this thing around in the stands needs to happen sooner rather than later.

"Retreat, hell! We're not retreating, we're just advancing in a different direction."

Oliver P. Smith

I apologize, I remember from my military days it was actually called a tactical retrograde. And as far as the UAB defense basically relocating to GAST, that may require more persuading than you think to talk guys to come into a 1-23 program (modern day) since the first three years are no longer counted. You may get some, but I think that will be limited. The 5-7 win season (overall) is in my opinion a stretch 2-4 most likely.

A. Forget the "modern day" stuff, we are 2-33 in the last three years.
B. We offer an opportunity to play without much competition for a starting job. Plus, we offer the least amount of disruption geographically for the players and their families. It's not like they went to UAB expecting to be in a ton of bowl games.

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