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He is dug in like a tick on a coon dog.

(12-08-2014 01:08 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  He is dug in like a tick on a coon dog.

So was Richard Nixon until Goldwater told him, "Dude, you don't have the votes."

Maybe that's what's happening to day.

Where is today's meeting? Public meetings can be attended by the public, the public just can't speak at the meeting. If they try to block a member of the public from attending then they would be subject to a violation of the open meetings act and could be sued by the person or persons who where blocked from entry. The penalty for such action is the forfeiture of one months salary which is quite a bit of money for an $850,000 guy.

Oh and the neat thing is penalty money goes to the person filing the lawsuit.

He's getting around that by having it not be mandatory, and so not all faculty senators (proper term?) will be there.

He may be getting faculty senate members who support him to come. So he can coach them up about tomorrow and how they can try to sway others of the faculty senate.

(12-08-2014 12:31 PM)dragondrummer Wrote:  Yeah, I'm not sure how they are having a closed door senate meeting with it being explicitly stated that you can't do that in the by-laws, but lately rules clearly don't seem to mean much, especially if nobody does anything about them breaking the rules.

I understood that today's meeting was a faculty meeting, which I assume can be closed to the public.

Tuesday's meeting is a senate meeting, which cannot be.

Am I the one confused?

The Faculty Senate is not subject to the Alabama Open Meetings Act.

The Faculty Senate is akin to a union, not a governing board.

(12-08-2014 01:20 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The Faculty Senate is not subject to the Alabama Open Meetings Act.

The Faculty Senate is akin to a union, not a governing board.

(12-08-2014 12:30 PM)dragondrummer Wrote:  Madison Underwood @MadisonU · 14m 14 minutes ago
FacultySenate's Alecia Gross: Purpose of mtg is "to try to figure out everything that’s going on, & what to do and how to proceed" #FreeUAB

Madison Underwood @MadisonU · 13m 13 minutes ago
UAB Faculty Senate Chair-Elect Alecia Gross: "We don’t have a set agenda, we’re just going to talk.” #FreeUAB

Madison Underwood @MadisonU · 13m 13 minutes ago
Gross: Tomorrow's meeting will likely be the most important meeting in the history of the senate. "Tomorrow's going to be huge." #FreeUAB

Madison Underwood @MadisonU · 12m 12 minutes ago
She said today's meeting is just for faculty senate members. Of course the senate's bylaws say that all meetings are open. #FreeUAB

Madison Underwood @MadisonU · 12m 12 minutes ago
(Except for executive sessions, but even those have to begin in an open meeting.) #FreeUAB

Maybe there will at least be some loyal to the UAB cause at the meeting. In this era of technology, I hope someone has a video recording running to capture what is said.

(12-08-2014 01:26 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 01:20 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The Faculty Senate is not subject to the Alabama Open Meetings Act.

The Faculty Senate is akin to a union, not a governing board.

(12-08-2014 12:30 PM)dragondrummer Wrote:  Madison Underwood @MadisonU · 14m 14 minutes ago
FacultySenate's Alecia Gross: Purpose of mtg is "to try to figure out everything that’s going on, & what to do and how to proceed" #FreeUAB

Madison Underwood @MadisonU · 13m 13 minutes ago
UAB Faculty Senate Chair-Elect Alecia Gross: "We don’t have a set agenda, we’re just going to talk.” #FreeUAB

Madison Underwood @MadisonU · 13m 13 minutes ago
Gross: Tomorrow's meeting will likely be the most important meeting in the history of the senate. "Tomorrow's going to be huge." #FreeUAB

Madison Underwood @MadisonU · 12m 12 minutes ago
She said today's meeting is just for faculty senate members. Of course the senate's bylaws say that all meetings are open. #FreeUAB

Madison Underwood @MadisonU · 12m 12 minutes ago
(Except for executive sessions, but even those have to begin in an open meeting.) #FreeUAB

Yes, but someone referred specifically to the Open Meetings Act and the fines and jail time that could result. That does not apply to the Faculty Senate.

Can't speak to the bylaws of an employee group and what the repercussions of violating those are.

UAB spokesperson not even sure the exact nature of the meeting.

Sounds like What today's meeting is is a strategy session by the enemy in their attempt to devise a plan to save their skins. I just hope the faculty tells them a pox on your house because they are not going to like the budget cuts that the legislature is going to enact on UAB as retribution for damages done to the area.