Natti will always play second fiddle to Bengals and Ohiostate. The big12 needs strong programs that make the conference better. Boise and Byu are not in larger markets where they're irrelevant but rather control their markets and are national brands. If the Big12 wants to make a statement that they are serious about winning natl titles these two programs are a must.....not Memphis or Coloradost

Two questions.

1) Do you ever make a post that doesn't involve shamelessly plugging BOISESTATE!!!!

and 2) Why does every two word university become one word with your posts. I'm baffled by this for some reason. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!?

Well now that's it's official, I guess it's time to just close the other threads. Thanks for the heads up BleedsBlue81.

Wow! Really!

Sorry but BSU doesn't cut it on the academic side even for the Big 12. Yes, they still play a role.
Sure they maybe talked about, but there isn't any really serious discussion for BSU.
I would like BSU to be considered but it's not happening.....and may not even happen for BYU.

(12-08-2014 12:23 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Two questions.

1) Do you ever make a post that doesn't involve shamelessly plugging BOISESTATE!!!!

and 2) Why does every two word university become one word with your posts. I'm baffled by this for some reason. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!?

LOL - I questionthe samething about thisposter

(12-08-2014 12:32 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:23 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Two questions.

1) Do you ever make a post that doesn't involve shamelessly plugging BOISESTATE!!!!

and 2) Why does every two word university become one word with your posts. I'm baffled by this for some reason. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!?

LOL - I questionthe samething about thisposter

Wellsaid!

I get it and agree on BYU. But boy he has to get in line with Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF and others. Who's going to be the tallest midget?

Boise's location, TV market and academics are going to be negatives.

I hope you are correct. That could save the AAC from demise. It also would probably spur another look at at the AAC and MWC joining forces. Add Army for FB and get all 3 SA's in the mix.

(12-08-2014 12:35 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I hope you are correct. That could save the AAC from demise. It also would probably spur another look at at the AAC and MWC joining forces. Add Army for FB and get all 3 SA's in the mix.

But would the schools from the west be appealing to the AAC w/out the likes of Boise State and BYU?

(12-08-2014 12:35 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I hope you are correct. That could save the AAC from demise. It also would probably spur another look at at the AAC and MWC joining forces. Add Army for FB and get all 3 SA's in the mix.

Whatever happens, the MWC/AAC need to strongly consider a merger (which would result in some teams being dropped). These are the teams from each that I would use as a starting point, subject to poaching:

AAC
UCF;
Cinci;
UConn;
ECU;
Memphis;
Navy;
USF;
Temple

MWC
SDSU;
UNLV;
Fresno State;
Boise;
Colorado State;
Air Force;
New Mexico

And then try to pull BYU in to the west. The odds are that two of those teams will get plucked, so there would be a six game RR and three cross-overs.

(12-08-2014 12:44 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:35 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I hope you are correct. That could save the AAC from demise. It also would probably spur another look at at the AAC and MWC joining forces. Add Army for FB and get all 3 SA's in the mix.

Whatever happens, the MWC/AAC need to strongly consider a merger (which would result in some teams being dropped). These are the teams from each that I would use as a starting point, subject to poaching:

AAC
UCF;
Cinci;
UConn;
ECU;
Memphis;
Navy;
USF;
Temple

MWC
SDSU;
UNLV;
Fresno State;
Boise;
Colorado State;
Air Force;
New Mexico

And then try to pull BYU in to the west. The odds are that two of those teams will get plucked, so there would be a six game RR and three cross-overs.

A new conference would need to be formed in order to drop Tulsa & Tulame.

(12-08-2014 12:45 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:44 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:35 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I hope you are correct. That could save the AAC from demise. It also would probably spur another look at at the AAC and MWC joining forces. Add Army for FB and get all 3 SA's in the mix.

Whatever happens, the MWC/AAC need to strongly consider a merger (which would result in some teams being dropped). These are the teams from each that I would use as a starting point, subject to poaching:

AAC
UCF;
Cinci;
UConn;
ECU;
Memphis;
Navy;
USF;
Temple

MWC
SDSU;
UNLV;
Fresno State;
Boise;
Colorado State;
Air Force;
New Mexico

And then try to pull BYU in to the west. The odds are that two of those teams will get plucked, so there would be a six game RR and three cross-overs.

A new conference would need to be formed in order to drop Tulsa & Tulame.

That is what I am proposing...the teams of the the MWC/AAC get together to form a new conference. There is nothing magic about either of those conference brands.

(12-08-2014 12:45 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:44 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:35 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I hope you are correct. That could save the AAC from demise. It also would probably spur another look at at the AAC and MWC joining forces. Add Army for FB and get all 3 SA's in the mix.

Whatever happens, the MWC/AAC need to strongly consider a merger (which would result in some teams being dropped). These are the teams from each that I would use as a starting point, subject to poaching:

AAC
UCF;
Cinci;
UConn;
ECU;
Memphis;
Navy;
USF;
Temple

MWC
SDSU;
UNLV;
Fresno State;
Boise;
Colorado State;
Air Force;
New Mexico

And then try to pull BYU in to the west. The odds are that two of those teams will get plucked, so there would be a six game RR and three cross-overs.

A new conference would need to be formed in order to drop Tulsa & Tulame.

I just want to reply so that I can quote Fo Shizzle and Firmbizzle in the same post. I feel so hip now just saying it.

I am giving this post the respect it deserves -

Why Boise State?
- academic powerhouse
- $1B endowment
- highly respected research university
- national leader in other sports
- top US TV market
- blue turf

NOT!

However given the boneheaded decisions from Bowlsby & co. - You're in!

Again, giving this post the respect it deserves.

(12-08-2014 12:21 PM)BLEEDBLUE81 Wrote:  Natti will always play second fiddle to Bengals and Ohiostate. The big12 needs strong programs that make the conference better. Boise and Byu are not in larger markets where they're irrelevant but rather control their markets and are national brands. If the Big12 wants to make a statement that they are serious about winning natl titles these two programs are a must.....not Memphis or Coloradost

Sheesh... Boise Community College students:

Learn how to spell: C-I-N-C-I-N-N-A-T-I.

There is no "Natti." Likewise, there is no "Cinnci."
"Cincy" or "Cinci" are acceptable.

(12-08-2014 12:43 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:35 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I hope you are correct. That could save the AAC from demise. It also would probably spur another look at at the AAC and MWC joining forces. Add Army for FB and get all 3 SA's in the mix.

But would the schools from the west be appealing to the AAC w/out the likes of Boise State and BYU?

I think it comes down to self preservation. The commissioners of the 2 leagues should NOW be talking with each other. Once the dominoes start falling?..you better be ready immediately with options.

its about football though, boise has a good history but colorado state or new mexico might make the president feel better if they go west to pair with byu. I could also see byu get a football only but that might mean bringing in cincy. The most likely move is Cincy and byu either full or football only.

A: Texas, Tex tech, TCU, Baylor, Cincy, WVU

B: OU, OSU, Ku, KSU, ISU, BYU

(12-08-2014 12:52 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:21 PM)BLEEDBLUE81 Wrote:  Natti will always play second fiddle to Bengals and Ohiostate. The big12 needs strong programs that make the conference better. Boise and Byu are not in larger markets where they're irrelevant but rather control their markets and are national brands. If the Big12 wants to make a statement that they are serious about winning natl titles these two programs are a must.....not Memphis or Coloradost

Sheesh... Boise Community College students:

Learn how to spell: C-I-N-C-I-N-N-A-T-I.

There is no "Natti." Likewise, there is no "Cinnci."
"Cincy" or "Cinci" are acceptable.

Relax...Just be glad you dont have to put up with ******** calling you EZU.

(12-08-2014 12:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:52 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:21 PM)BLEEDBLUE81 Wrote:  Natti will always play second fiddle to Bengals and Ohiostate. The big12 needs strong programs that make the conference better. Boise and Byu are not in larger markets where they're irrelevant but rather control their markets and are national brands. If the Big12 wants to make a statement that they are serious about winning natl titles these two programs are a must.....not Memphis or Coloradost

Sheesh... Boise Community College students:

Learn how to spell: C-I-N-C-I-N-N-A-T-I.

There is no "Natti." Likewise, there is no "Cinnci."
"Cincy" or "Cinci" are acceptable.

Relax...Just be glad you dont have to put up with ******** calling you EZU.

Oh, I know... And ordinarily I'd ignore this whole thing. I just thought I'd add my constructive criticism.

(12-08-2014 12:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:52 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:21 PM)BLEEDBLUE81 Wrote:  Natti will always play second fiddle to Bengals and Ohiostate. The big12 needs strong programs that make the conference better. Boise and Byu are not in larger markets where they're irrelevant but rather control their markets and are national brands. If the Big12 wants to make a statement that they are serious about winning natl titles these two programs are a must.....not Memphis or Coloradost

Sheesh... Boise Community College students:

Learn how to spell: C-I-N-C-I-N-N-A-T-I.

There is no "Natti." Likewise, there is no "Cinnci."
"Cincy" or "Cinci" are acceptable.

Relax...Just be glad you dont have to put up with ******** calling you EZU.

If only our identity crisis was centered around people's inability to spell "Charlotte".

Folks calling y'all EZU always bugged me. There are much more intelligent routes to talk trash than "hur hur looky there I just changed a letter and now they're easy!"