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The Big 14
I have no dog in the hunt but if I was the Big 12 Commish Mr Bobby B. here's what I'd do after today's announcements. The Big 12 has to add schools, and even he conceded that today.
Invite the following 4: Cincinnati, Memphis, Colorado St and New Mexico:

Big 12 East:
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Memphis
Oklahoma St
Oklahoma
Texas
Baylor

Big 12 West:
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas St
Colorado St
New Mexico
Texas Tech
Texas Christian

Each division adds teams that either border the other existing states, and have somewhat consistent rivalries over the past 100 years in most sports. New Mexico and Colorado St are flagship types the Big 12 (and all P5 schools) like, and Cincinnati and Memphis are the best adds on the East as far as long time tradition, markets and academics. I'd rather it be ECU, but I'm not naive.--mainly market size. BYU is too much trouble as they will never, never, never play on Sunday's--see 1978 Fiesta Bowl as the most glaring example of a BYU Sunday forfeit--and the BYU network is another LHN pain in the a$$ to deal with. Boise St simply doesn't have the academics to ever qualify for a P5. UCF is a directional school with no history and the Big 12 won't add more Texas schools disqualifying Houston and SMU. San Diego St doesn't have a stadium, is located in an NFL market and UNLV is just not a college town with academic issues on top of that. UCONN would be a no-brainier if they weren't a billion miles away. I see no other candidates. Just my opinion.
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You're splitting up the Texas schools? Yeah that'll work. That'd be like splitting up the North Carolina Schools in the ACC.
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Are you adding Memphis and New Mexico as basketball only schools? If not I'm confused
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I think they are going to add FAU, FIU, UCF, USF, FDIC & LSMFT. 05-stirthepot
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(12-07-2014 03:44 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  I think they are going to add FAU, FIU, UCF, USF, FDIC & LSMFT. 05-stirthepot

Are you serious Clark?

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(12-07-2014 03:29 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I have no dog in the hunt but if I was the Big 12 Commish Mr Bobby B. here's what I'd do after today's announcements. The Big 12 has to add schools, and even he conceded that today.
Invite the following 4: Cincinnati, Memphis, Colorado St and New Mexico:

Big 12 East:
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Memphis
Oklahoma St
Oklahoma
Texas
Baylor

Big 12 West:
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas St
Colorado St
New Mexico
Texas Tech
Texas Christian

Each division adds teams that either border the other existing states, and have somewhat consistent rivalries over the past 100 years in most sports. New Mexico and Colorado St are flagship types the Big 12 (and all P5 schools) like, and Cincinnati and Memphis are the best adds on the East as far as long time tradition, markets and academics. I'd rather it be ECU, but I'm not naive.--mainly market size. BYU is too much trouble as they will never, never, never play on Sunday's--see 1978 Fiesta Bowl as the most glaring example of a BYU Sunday forfeit--and the BYU network is another LHN pain in the a$$ to deal with. Boise St simply doesn't have the academics to ever qualify for a P5. UCF is a directional school with no history and the Big 12 won't add more Texas schools disqualifying Houston and SMU. San Diego St doesn't have a stadium, is located in an NFL market and UNLV is just not a college town with academic issues on top of that. UCONN would be a no-brainier if they weren't a billion miles away. I see no other candidates. Just my opinion.
Nope. 12 Max, BYU first on the list, #12 is much harder, due to WVU needing a travel partner Cinci would be most likely. If WVU is not considered a priority then look for a Texas school to complete a southern division of 4 Tx schools and OU/OSU. U of H has come a long way but has overlapping TV market, Rice and SMU appeal only to older fans like me due to SWC days. Crazy as it sounds Tulane is somewhat appealing (N.O. market, could travel with Tx schools easy enough and Big 12 is not biased against private schools), Ark would be great but unlikely to want to leave the $$ in SEC.
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(12-07-2014 03:31 PM)canewton Wrote:  You're splitting up the Texas schools? Yeah that'll work. That'd be like splitting up the North Carolina Schools in the ACC.

Wait...what? That kind of did happen.
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(12-07-2014 03:31 PM)canewton Wrote:  You're splitting up the Texas schools? Yeah that'll work. That'd be like splitting up the North Carolina Schools in the ACC.

NC schools are split:

UNC/Duke coastal
WF/NC State atlantic
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Directional school in name only. Memphis academics suck compared to UCF. So I guess 20 years of losing is a better tradition lol
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(12-07-2014 03:31 PM)canewton Wrote:  You're splitting up the Texas schools? Yeah that'll work. That'd be like splitting up the North Carolina Schools in the ACC.

They did that. Wake and state are in the Atlantic and duke and no are in the coastal:
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(12-07-2014 03:52 PM)Football Junky Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 03:29 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I have no dog in the hunt but if I was the Big 12 Commish Mr Bobby B. here's what I'd do after today's announcements. The Big 12 has to add schools, and even he conceded that today.
Invite the following 4: Cincinnati, Memphis, Colorado St and New Mexico:

Big 12 East:
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Memphis
Oklahoma St
Oklahoma
Texas
Baylor

Big 12 West:
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas St
Colorado St
New Mexico
Texas Tech
Texas Christian

Each division adds teams that either border the other existing states, and have somewhat consistent rivalries over the past 100 years in most sports. New Mexico and Colorado St are flagship types the Big 12 (and all P5 schools) like, and Cincinnati and Memphis are the best adds on the East as far as long time tradition, markets and academics. I'd rather it be ECU, but I'm not naive.--mainly market size. BYU is too much trouble as they will never, never, never play on Sunday's--see 1978 Fiesta Bowl as the most glaring example of a BYU Sunday forfeit--and the BYU network is another LHN pain in the a$$ to deal with. Boise St simply doesn't have the academics to ever qualify for a P5. UCF is a directional school with no history and the Big 12 won't add more Texas schools disqualifying Houston and SMU. San Diego St doesn't have a stadium, is located in an NFL market and UNLV is just not a college town with academic issues on top of that. UCONN would be a no-brainier if they weren't a billion miles away. I see no other candidates. Just my opinion.
Nope. 12 Max, BYU first on the list, #12 is much harder, due to WVU needing a travel partner Cinci would be most likely. If WVU is not considered a priority then look for a Texas school to complete a southern division of 4 Tx schools and OU/OSU. U of H has come a long way but has overlapping TV market, Rice and SMU appeal only to older fans like me due to SWC days. Crazy as it sounds Tulane is somewhat appealing (N.O. market, could travel with Tx schools easy enough and Big 12 is not biased against private schools), Ark would be great but unlikely to want to leave the $$ in SEC.

No chance the Big 12 adds another Texas school when they already have 4. That would be the dumbest move in the history of conference realignment.
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Add Fresno State/SDSU then will have Texas/California for 2 of the 3 largest recruiting states for the conference and access to large amount of tv sets if 12. If 14, 2 of BYU/UCF/USF. But remember, a BYU/B12 expansion was looked into a couple of years ago and didn't happen. Maybe problematic. Why aren't they in the P12?
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(12-07-2014 04:04 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  Directional school in name only. Memphis academics suck compared to UCF. So I guess 20 years of losing is a better tradition lol

That's why we should have changed our name to FTU 10 years ago.
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The 'directional school' is the dumbest argument ever. Changing our name from UCF to The University of Orlando would change what, exactly? It's amazing how much USC has been overlooked over the years, right?
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(12-07-2014 03:31 PM)canewton Wrote:  You're splitting up the Texas schools? Yeah that'll work. That'd be like splitting up the North Carolina Schools in the ACC.

uh....you do know that NC schools are split right?
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(12-07-2014 03:52 PM)Football Junky Wrote:  
(12-07-2014 03:29 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I have no dog in the hunt but if I was the Big 12 Commish Mr Bobby B. here's what I'd do after today's announcements. The Big 12 has to add schools, and even he conceded that today.
Invite the following 4: Cincinnati, Memphis, Colorado St and New Mexico:

Big 12 East:
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Memphis
Oklahoma St
Oklahoma
Texas
Baylor

Big 12 West:
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas St
Colorado St
New Mexico
Texas Tech
Texas Christian

Each division adds teams that either border the other existing states, and have somewhat consistent rivalries over the past 100 years in most sports. New Mexico and Colorado St are flagship types the Big 12 (and all P5 schools) like, and Cincinnati and Memphis are the best adds on the East as far as long time tradition, markets and academics. I'd rather it be ECU, but I'm not naive.--mainly market size. BYU is too much trouble as they will never, never, never play on Sunday's--see 1978 Fiesta Bowl as the most glaring example of a BYU Sunday forfeit--and the BYU network is another LHN pain in the a$$ to deal with. Boise St simply doesn't have the academics to ever qualify for a P5. UCF is a directional school with no history and the Big 12 won't add more Texas schools disqualifying Houston and SMU. San Diego St doesn't have a stadium, is located in an NFL market and UNLV is just not a college town with academic issues on top of that. UCONN would be a no-brainier if they weren't a billion miles away. I see no other candidates. Just my opinion.
Nope. 12 Max, BYU first on the list, #12 is much harder, due to WVU needing a travel partner Cinci would be most likely. If WVU is not considered a priority then look for a Texas school to complete a southern division of 4 Tx schools and OU/OSU. U of H has come a long way but has overlapping TV market, Rice and SMU appeal only to older fans like me due to SWC days. Crazy as it sounds Tulane is somewhat appealing (N.O. market, could travel with Tx schools easy enough and Big 12 is not biased against private schools), Ark would be great but unlikely to want to leave the $$ in SEC.

How quickly you forget the team that beat both your teams in bowl games over the last four years
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(12-07-2014 04:24 PM)FonzKnight Wrote:  The 'directional school' is the dumbest argument ever. Changing our name from UCF to The University of Orlando would change what, exactly? It's amazing how much USC has been overlooked over the years, right?

ok, lets take directional out if it. You ve played football in division 1 for 18 years. You ve been a university for how many years?? Don't you realize how the lack of tradition alone is a bad thing? Name me a P5 school playing football for under 20 years? Name me a P5 school that wasn't a school 100 years ago? Most have not only had football since the late 1800's, but have been schools for 150 years
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(12-07-2014 03:29 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I have no dog in the hunt but if I was the Big 12 Commish Mr Bobby B. here's what I'd do after today's announcements. The Big 12 has to add schools, and even he conceded that today.
Invite the following 4: Cincinnati, Memphis, Colorado St and New Mexico:

Big 12 East:
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Memphis
Oklahoma St
Oklahoma
Texas
Baylor

Big 12 West:
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas St
Colorado St
New Mexico
Texas Tech
Texas Christian

Each division adds teams that either border the other existing states, and have somewhat consistent rivalries over the past 100 years in most sports. New Mexico and Colorado St are flagship types the Big 12 (and all P5 schools) like, and Cincinnati and Memphis are the best adds on the East as far as long time tradition, markets and academics. I'd rather it be ECU, but I'm not naive.--mainly market size. BYU is too much trouble as they will never, never, never play on Sunday's--see 1978 Fiesta Bowl as the most glaring example of a BYU Sunday forfeit--and the BYU network is another LHN pain in the a$$ to deal with. Boise St simply doesn't have the academics to ever qualify for a P5. UCF is a directional school with no history and the Big 12 won't add more Texas schools disqualifying Houston and SMU. San Diego St doesn't have a stadium, is located in an NFL market and UNLV is just not a college town with academic issues on top of that. UCONN would be a no-brainier if they weren't a billion miles away. I see no other candidates. Just my opinion.

You forgot the part about UCF not getting in cause they suck and they're all doodyheads and have a stupid name.
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(12-07-2014 04:24 PM)FonzKnight Wrote:  The 'directional school' is the dumbest argument ever. Changing our name from UCF to The University of Orlando would change what, exactly? It's amazing how much USC has been overlooked over the years, right?

no it s not amazing at all. USC is a top notch school and s blue blood football power with more Rose Bowl appearances than UCF has....wait a minute, are you comparing UCF with USC?????
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