And there are two programs out there with the National cachet to be good adds... BOISESTATE and BYU! Boisestate just capped of their 10th season in the past 12 ranked and will crash its 3rd BIG BOWL in 9 years and we all know what Byu brings in terms of fans and history!

Sorry not gonna happen

Agreed that the big 12 needs 12 teams after what we just saw in the selection show but i don't think they will be BSU and BYU.
Also big 12 or any conference should encourage tougher non-con scheduling

I could see BYU and Boise work very well for the big 12. Yet, my favorite plan is for ESPN to make a full merger of the ACC and big 12 work in a football only setup. Jump to 28 with uconn, cincy and byu and go with 4 divisions of 7, than let them have a 2 game playoff with the winner going into the 4 team playoff of conference champs of big 10, sec and pac 12.

(12-07-2014 12:54 PM)tigersmoke1 Wrote:  Sorry not gonna happen

It will likely happen after today because the committee made it very clear that the CCG gave Ohio St the edge over TCU and Baylor (both co-champs, but we know who is the real champ)....

The B12 just looks bad...and has for a while now.

In a bigger picture...they have lost four teams, they have no CCG, and then they go and declare co-champs, something they said they wouldn't do. They are short sighted, appear to be TexasCentric to a fault and are kind of "They Emperor Has No Clothes"-esq in their approach to things. Just horrible horrible leadership and lack of vision. They also have the least amount of markets and tv sets vs the other P5's. They add WVA in a knee jerk move, who is on an island...I mean, as I type things keep popping in my head in regards to the number of gaffs this conference has made over the last few years.

UCF and Cincinatti should be the obvious adds

Man that looks like a good k night.

(12-07-2014 01:04 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  The B12 just looks bad...and has for a while now.

In a bigger picture...they have lost four teams, they have no CCG, and then they go and declare co-champs, something they said they wouldn't do. They are short sighted, appear to be TexasCentric to a fault and are kind of "They Emperor Has No Clothes"-esq in their approach to things. Just horrible horrible leadership and lack of vision. They also have the least amount of markets and tv sets vs the other P5's. They add WVA in a knee jerk move, who is on an island...I mean, as I type things keep popping in my head in regards to the number of gaffs this conference has made over the last few years.

Completely agree

Add BYU, Cincinnati, Colorado state, and Houston

A CCG does improve the strength of schedule and provides a "statement game" in the final week of the season. Here is the problem for the Big XII: even if they expand by 2, Baylor and TCU are likely in the same division. TCU does not win their division and does not get to play in the final week. Baylor would be in the Big XII CCG in a rematch with Kansas State. It still would not be enough to get in ahead of Ohio State.

What really cost Baylor and TCU were their out of conference strength of schedule. Both Baylor and TCU had FCS schools on the schedule, and both had 1-11 SMU on the schedule. Teams that want to compete for a playoff spot need to get FCS teams off the schedule. We saw this same problem with Marshall and their OOC schedule, we shouldn't be surprised that the committee punished Baylor and TCU as well.

Coloradost.... One good season this millennium, apathetic fans, irrelevant in Denver and just lost their coach. Houston.... Big 12 has enough Texas schools, Cincinatti.... Will always be Ohiost's kid sister and irrelevant in that city, plus rust belt is not growing! BOISE AND BYU are the best choices!

(12-07-2014 01:50 PM)BLEEDBLUE81 Wrote:  Coloradost.... One good season this millennium, apathetic fans, irrelevant in Denver and just lost their coach. Houston.... Big 12 has enough Texas schools, Cincinatti.... Will always be Ohiost's kid sister and irrelevant in that city, plus rust belt is not growing! BOISE AND BYU are the best choices!

There are more UC fans in Cincinnati than OSU fans. Of course, you wouldn't know that. And even if you did, you are unable to post anything on this board that isn't campaigning for Boise State, so your opinion is pretty irrelevant anyway.

There are 8 teams with a case- UCF, USF, Boise, BYU, Cincinatti, Memphis, Houston Colorado St.

The only part of the order that seems clear is Cincinatti towards the top and USF, Houston, towards the bottom. Boise is last due to their TV market (sorry Boise fans, but that will absolutely hold you back)

(12-07-2014 02:27 PM)FonzKnight Wrote:  There are 8 teams with a case- UCF, USF, Boise, BYU, Cincinatti, Memphis, Houston Colorado St.

The only part of the order that seems clear is Cincinatti towards the top and USF, Houston, towards the bottom. Boise is last due to their TV market (sorry Boise fans, but that will absolutely hold you back)

I would say academics will keep them out as much as market size. I personally believe Boise State belongs in a P5 based on their football prowess alone, but I don't get to make that call obviously.

Also, I don't believe Colorado State and Houston are strong candidates at this time. The last thing the Big 12 needs is more Texas schools. And Colorado State just had their rise to prominence this year and already lost their coach. BYU, Cincy, Memphis, and UCF are the most likely candidates IMO.

(12-07-2014 02:35 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Also, I don't believe Colorado State and Houston are strong candidates at this time. The last thing the Big 12 needs is more Texas schools. And Colorado State just had their rise to prominence this year and already lost their coach. BYU, Cincy, Memphis, and UCF are the most likely candidates IMO.

It would be great For the region if they took all four, but that's a huge long shot

(12-07-2014 02:27 PM)FonzKnight Wrote:  There are 8 teams with a case- UCF, USF, Boise, BYU, Cincinatti, Memphis, Houston Colorado St.

The only part of the order that seems clear is Cincinatti towards the top and USF, Houston, towards the bottom. Boise is last due to their TV market (sorry Boise fans, but that will absolutely hold you back)

If it were about markets, WV (small market) and TCU (redundant market) would never have been added. All the B12 needs to do is give fball only memberships to certain G5 schools with the stipulation that a school gets playoff or major bowl revenue if it makes it to either one. In my opinon, BYU and Cinci will be added....

Big12 should hold tight and hope the playoff expands to 8 in the next 4 years. There is not a quality team to add that will help them.

(12-07-2014 02:57 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Big12 should hold tight and hope the playoff expands to 8 in the next 4 years. There is not a quality team to add that will help them.

The current playoff model has a 12 year contract.

(12-07-2014 02:57 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Big12 should hold tight and hope the playoff expands to 8 in the next 4 years. There is not a quality team to add that will help them.

This might be their attitude as well. You never know. What Cincy, UCF, USF, and Memphis should do is make a financial pact to make a Big12 east coast division a reality. Collectively agree to half shares for the duration of the new negotiated TV contract, or 10 years, whichever is shorter. Might generate the financial incentive that the Big12 needs.