(12-08-2014 02:30 PM)Bearcat61 Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 09:26 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  A lot of folks just had no interest in going downtown to PBS. I get it. I went but there were games I would have almost preferred to watch from the couch. Sterile as hell and I always feel like I am a 5 iron away from the play no matter where I sit. Students largely said the hell with it too. Had the season started off better than it did in those first 5 games, the gate would have been far better. Fireworks shows or not, a lot of folks decided to just sit on the sideline until 2015. This is not all on the fans. Customers are allowed to make informed choices regardless of the loyalty mandate from some.

You have to give the 25,000 fans a lot of credit for dealing with PBS on a terrible weather day. You put that game in Nippert and you could add about 5,000 fans. And if we were in the hunt for the Access bowl, you are talking another 5,000 fans. The average attendance this year was 28,850 with a high of 41,926 for Miami of Ohio.
Back home in a renovated Nippert, we should average about 37,000 to 39,000 with at least 3 sold out games including opening day (does not matter who we play), UCF, and probably Temple. Keep in mind, it was not long ago that the average attendance was about 18,000 fans (pre-Big East).

Sellout for Temple? Nothing says excited fans more than Temple, you know that Philly team that was thrown out of the BE and had to play several years in the purgatory that is the MAC? Serious?

(12-08-2014 06:42 PM)pobearman Wrote:  I went to the game but left after the first quarter. Had club seats but they were not great. Really made me appreciate Nippert. Decided that rather than suffer in the cold, I would watch the second half from home. The weather was horrible this year for games after the first couple. 2 early byes did not help. There is little incentive to attend when the games are on TV, parking is expensive and the concessions are crazy. I believe other than the top teams you will see teams struggle with attendance with all of the better options to watch the game. The game experience is better attending but all the rest is worse

Apparently I dressed for the cold better than you because I never got close to cold on Saturday. And we started tailgating at 8:30. I will venture a guess that you got to the stadium area at about 11:45.

But let me understand this....You came to the game and paid the "expensive" parking. You probably bought some of the "crazy" concessions. And THEN you left after one quarter?

I can't wrap a thought process around that. Spend all the money and don't watch the game. Smart.

(12-08-2014 02:09 PM)#41 Wrote:  The American Athletic Conference reeks of "small time / unimportant" -- and there is nothing more poisonous to fans in an otherwise major-league town (where major-league teams compete for world championships) than "small time / unimportant."

AAC football games are played mostly for pride and school spirit. There's no real shot of making the playoffs or winning a national championship. When the Bearcats were in the Big East, there was a sense that every game mattered. Being at the game was important. Now? On Saturday the Bearcats clinched a share of a title from a conference no one wants to be in. The sports world yawned and sent them to play a bowl game against a mid-tier ACC team. Can you blame the fans for yawning too?

Unfortunately this is the reality in the AAC.

I went to the game with my dad and brother, whom I would consider your typical casual fan in this area. They didn't know anything about Houston's team and even realize we were playing for a conference championship.

There was absolutely no hype for this game or really any other games at home this year. Not having the name schools and rivalries like lville, WVU, and Pitt is hurting. This area loves hyped up games, but going to a UC game alone isn't a big draw like it would be at an SEC school.

Basketball will probably stay the same for the most part. Big crowds when the team is winning and for names like X and UCONN.

As others have stated, the core fan base has seemed to increase. I remember going to a dreary game vs Louisville in Minters last year in crappy weather. There may have been about 5k UC fans and 5k UL fans there.

Dude...meet me on the corner and I am totally going to give you thrashing of your life ala Monte Burns.

(12-08-2014 11:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Dude...meet me on the corner and I am totally going to give you thrashing of your life ala Monte Burns.

Rath...I never thought you would accept I'm always up for some brawling on random street corners in Covington

(12-08-2014 11:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Dude...meet me on the corner and I am totally going to give you thrashing of your life ala Monte Burns.

WTF!!!? Who woke this bastard back up? LOL!

(12-08-2014 11:32 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 11:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Dude...meet me on the corner and I am totally going to give you thrashing of your life ala Monte Burns.

Rath...I never thought you would accept I'm always up for some brawling on random street corners in Covington

Hey. It's all love in the Cov.

(12-08-2014 07:35 PM)dossbig Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 02:30 PM)Bearcat61 Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 09:26 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  A lot of folks just had no interest in going downtown to PBS. I get it. I went but there were games I would have almost preferred to watch from the couch. Sterile as hell and I always feel like I am a 5 iron away from the play no matter where I sit. Students largely said the hell with it too. Had the season started off better than it did in those first 5 games, the gate would have been far better. Fireworks shows or not, a lot of folks decided to just sit on the sideline until 2015. This is not all on the fans. Customers are allowed to make informed choices regardless of the loyalty mandate from some.

You have to give the 25,000 fans a lot of credit for dealing with PBS on a terrible weather day. You put that game in Nippert and you could add about 5,000 fans. And if we were in the hunt for the Access bowl, you are talking another 5,000 fans. The average attendance this year was 28,850 with a high of 41,926 for Miami of Ohio.
Back home in a renovated Nippert, we should average about 37,000 to 39,000 with at least 3 sold out games including opening day (does not matter who we play), UCF, and probably Temple. Keep in mind, it was not long ago that the average attendance was about 18,000 fans (pre-Big East).

Sellout for Temple? Nothing says excited fans more than Temple, you know that Philly team that was thrown out of the BE and had to play several years in the purgatory that is the MAC? Serious?

Maybe not a sellout for Temple, but IMO at least 30,000 fans would watch that game at Nippert. The attendance in 2012, with Temple, Rutgers, USF, UConn, UofL, Syracuse, and Pitt in the last year of the Big East was 29,138. Home games were played at Nippert. The attendance for 2013 and 2014 was 31,770 and 28,850, respectively, with the AAC lineup. I just don't see a major drop in attendance attributed to the AAC lineup. The average attendance this year for Conference games was about 24,800. Again, if you add 5,000 for playing at Nippert and you are back at about 30,000 fans, or very little change compared to our Big East days. I think the data is clear, there is a core interest in UC football that stands at 25,000 fans and another 5,000 to 10,000 that come depending on factors related to weather, time and day, and competing for championship/Access bowl.

(12-08-2014 06:42 PM)pobearman Wrote:  I went to the game but left after the first quarter. Had club seats but they were not great. Really made me appreciate Nippert. Decided that rather than suffer in the cold, I would watch the second half from home. The weather was horrible this year for games after the first couple. 2 early byes did not help. There is little incentive to attend when the games are on TV, parking is expensive and the concessions are crazy. I believe other than the top teams you will see teams struggle with attendance with all of the better options to watch the game. The game experience is better attending but all the rest is worse

I agree pbs was not the best of environments. I am a little confused though, you had "Club Seats," however were cold. Do you know Club Seats have an indoor climate controlled Club attached to them?

(12-09-2014 11:10 AM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 06:42 PM)pobearman Wrote:  I went to the game but left after the first quarter. Had club seats but they were not great. Really made me appreciate Nippert. Decided that rather than suffer in the cold, I would watch the second half from home. The weather was horrible this year for games after the first couple. 2 early byes did not help. There is little incentive to attend when the games are on TV, parking is expensive and the concessions are crazy. I believe other than the top teams you will see teams struggle with attendance with all of the better options to watch the game. The game experience is better attending but all the rest is worse

I agree pbs was not the best of environments. I am a little confused though, you had "Club Seats," however were cold. Do you know Club Seats have an indoor climate controlled Club attached to them?

This guy bs machine. He doesn't have club seats. He wasn't at the game. He is not a Bearcat fan. He is just on here causing trouble. He has been exposed.

(12-09-2014 11:47 AM)Bearcat Otto Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 11:10 AM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 06:42 PM)pobearman Wrote:  I went to the game but left after the first quarter. Had club seats but they were not great. Really made me appreciate Nippert. Decided that rather than suffer in the cold, I would watch the second half from home. The weather was horrible this year for games after the first couple. 2 early byes did not help. There is little incentive to attend when the games are on TV, parking is expensive and the concessions are crazy. I believe other than the top teams you will see teams struggle with attendance with all of the better options to watch the game. The game experience is better attending but all the rest is worse

I agree pbs was not the best of environments. I am a little confused though, you had "Club Seats," however were cold. Do you know Club Seats have an indoor climate controlled Club attached to them?

This guy bs machine. He doesn't have club seats. He wasn't at the game. He is not a Bearcat fan. He is just on here causing trouble. He has been exposed.

He's definitely not a fan, but he might be UC's beat writer for the Enquirer.

(12-08-2014 11:05 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 02:09 PM)#41 Wrote:  The American Athletic Conference reeks of "small time / unimportant" -- and there is nothing more poisonous to fans in an otherwise major-league town (where major-league teams compete for world championships) than "small time / unimportant."

AAC football games are played mostly for pride and school spirit. There's no real shot of making the playoffs or winning a national championship. When the Bearcats were in the Big East, there was a sense that every game mattered. Being at the game was important. Now? On Saturday the Bearcats clinched a share of a title from a conference no one wants to be in. The sports world yawned and sent them to play a bowl game against a mid-tier ACC team. Can you blame the fans for yawning too?

Unfortunately this is the reality in the AAC.

I went to the game with my dad and brother, whom I would consider your typical casual fan in this area. They didn't know anything about Houston's team and even realize we were playing for a conference championship.

There was absolutely no hype for this game or really any other games at home this year. Not having the name schools and rivalries like lville, WVU, and Pitt is hurting. This area loves hyped up games, but going to a UC game alone isn't a big draw like it would be at an SEC school.

Basketball will probably stay the same for the most part. Big crowds when the team is winning and for names like X and UCONN.

As others have stated, the core fan base has seemed to increase. I remember going to a dreary game vs Louisville in Minters last year in crappy weather. There may have been about 5k UC fans and 5k UL fans there.

holy crap!!! When was your last post, 2005?

(12-09-2014 01:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 11:05 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 02:09 PM)#41 Wrote:  The American Athletic Conference reeks of "small time / unimportant" -- and there is nothing more poisonous to fans in an otherwise major-league town (where major-league teams compete for world championships) than "small time / unimportant."

AAC football games are played mostly for pride and school spirit. There's no real shot of making the playoffs or winning a national championship. When the Bearcats were in the Big East, there was a sense that every game mattered. Being at the game was important. Now? On Saturday the Bearcats clinched a share of a title from a conference no one wants to be in. The sports world yawned and sent them to play a bowl game against a mid-tier ACC team. Can you blame the fans for yawning too?

Unfortunately this is the reality in the AAC.

I went to the game with my dad and brother, whom I would consider your typical casual fan in this area. They didn't know anything about Houston's team and even realize we were playing for a conference championship.

There was absolutely no hype for this game or really any other games at home this year. Not having the name schools and rivalries like lville, WVU, and Pitt is hurting. This area loves hyped up games, but going to a UC game alone isn't a big draw like it would be at an SEC school.

Basketball will probably stay the same for the most part. Big crowds when the team is winning and for names like X and UCONN.

As others have stated, the core fan base has seemed to increase. I remember going to a dreary game vs Louisville in Minters last year in crappy weather. There may have been about 5k UC fans and 5k UL fans there.

holy crap!!! When was your last post, 2005?

June finally kicked Jarr out of the Huggin's basement. June to Jarr: "That's the last Diet Coke you'll spill on our rug. Put on your pants and get out of here. And take your King Kwik coffee mug with you!"