If the Cincy-Memphis add were to happen, that is 2 more previous C-USA schools in power conferences. And that severely waters down Big 12 football. They could be on there way of being the next Big East. That also brings Tuberville back to the Big 12 and gives West Va a little company. I almost see that as a must add for West Va to remain in the conference.

I feel another round of major shake up going down this off season.

If Baylor or TCU makes the playoff this year and the other team gets an Access bowl, they don't need 12 and they don't need a CCG. They couldn't ask for more. They might even get 3 teams in the Access bowls with KSU. They don't need to water down their conference with Memphis of Cincy.

All of you are underestimating the power of the Big 12. If they need a new schools to add they won't be poaching G5 conferences. And they certainly aren't going to water down their football strength by adding crappy programs like Uconn, Temple, and Memphis.

They are already getting one loss teams into the playoffs without a conference championship so why would they bother to add these weaker schools?....they won't.

Cincinatti is the only one they might even look twice at in AAC but when they decide to expand they will be looking at schools from P5 conferences probably the ACC.

The Sunbelt needs to poach Houston to give Texas State a travel partner.

(12-06-2014 11:05 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  The Sunbelt needs to poach Houston to give Texas State a travel partner.

Lmao wow

(12-06-2014 12:26 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 11:05 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  The Sunbelt needs to poach Houston to give Texas State a travel partner.

Lmao wow

Texas A&M would be a better choice.

(12-06-2014 12:38 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 12:26 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 11:05 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  The Sunbelt needs to poach Houston to give Texas State a travel partner.

Lmao wow

Texas A&M would be a better choice.

You guys are way ahead of me. I hadn't considered them.

Tonight, it is possible for 1, 2 and 3 to win, and FSU and Ohio St. at 4 and 5 to lose. Baylor wins at 6 and the Big 12 has 2 teams in the playoffs. If they had pitted those top 2 teams against each other in a CCG that wouldn't happen. The Big 12 could be laughing all the way to the bank!

You are a silly guy, will be no movement in or out of ACC.

(12-05-2014 09:10 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Alot of people over on the realignment board are reporting memphis and cincy to the b12.

Cinn is a possible pick if the B-12 expands. Don't see Memphis at all.

If the B-12 expands schools to look at for possible additions are Cinn, BYU first, then the Florida schools with UCF / USF, and UConn might have a chance too. UConn's travel would not change that much with teams in Florida, Iowa, WV, and Cinn if they are taken with them. UConn already travels to Texas, Cinn, and Florida and traveled to WV when they were in the BE.

(12-06-2014 10:57 AM)CornMeal Wrote:  All of you are underestimating the power of the Big 12. If they need a new schools to add they won't be poaching G5 conferences. And they certainly aren't going to water down their football strength by adding crappy programs like Uconn, Temple, and Memphis.

They are already getting one loss teams into the playoffs without a conference championship so why would they bother to add these weaker schools?....they won't.

Cincinatti is the only one they might even look twice at in AAC but when they decide to expand they will be looking at schools from P5 conferences probably the ACC.

No friend, you're overestimating the power of the Big XII. They may be "looking at P5 members" and they can look all they want, but they've lost members to the Big Ten, Pac 12, and SEC in the last five years and the supposed power we're "underestimating" wasn't enough to hang on to Colorado, Nebraska or aTm. So if it's going to be a P5 cconference, it would definitely be the ACC.

I'm not saying you are crazy for suggesting the Big XII will poach from the ACC, it's been suggested before and anyone in the ACC perhaps save for BC and Cuse make sense, in one way or another. Florida State and Clemson probably make the most sense, but that does little for outlier WVU apart from creating divisions, so Louisville and Pitt make a ton of sense as well, hell all four make sense getting the Big XII to 14, but the ACC has their GOR in place for another decade or so.

Perhaps that GOR doesn't hold up, but if it does, the Big XII has zero current P5 options, but please tell us again about the awesome power of the Big XII.

(12-06-2014 11:05 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  The Sunbelt needs to poach Houston to give Texas State a travel partner.

We have enough bad teams already. No need to add more.

(12-05-2014 11:20 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Nobody wants UMASS

Even UMASS doesn't want UMASS football.

(12-06-2014 12:14 AM)txst_roundrock Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 12:08 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 12:03 AM)txst_roundrock Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:55 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:52 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  They make perfect sense for the AAC and are looking for a home. Georgaphic fit, they have basketball tradition, strong academics and their football is no worse than SMU's.

Hey, we are good conference mates we pad the win column

Lol, hey Bee Cave, I hear you, claim Round Rock myself (obviously) June was not good for you brother. I do remember the old SWC. It's a shame. However, don't lose hope. I have a certain coach down in San Marcos that I'm willing to trade.

Nope we just got Chad Morris and our recruiting just went off the charts

SMU is no Lake Travis. Anyone from Austin or Central Texas Knows that. However, I believe that it is a great hire. I honestly don't like seeing SMU down (I'm a sucker for the Dickerson days, literally not in the bad way.)

I am a sucker for the Bobby Wilson, Doak Walker and Matty Bell days. Heck, throw in the Gerry Mann days in there.

(12-06-2014 01:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 10:57 AM)CornMeal Wrote:  All of you are underestimating the power of the Big 12. If they need a new schools to add they won't be poaching G5 conferences. And they certainly aren't going to water down their football strength by adding crappy programs like Uconn, Temple, and Memphis.

They are already getting one loss teams into the playoffs without a conference championship so why would they bother to add these weaker schools?....they won't.

Cincinatti is the only one they might even look twice at in AAC but when they decide to expand they will be looking at schools from P5 conferences probably the ACC.

No friend, you're overestimating the power of the Big XII. They may be "looking at P5 members" and they can look all they want, but they've lost members to the Big Ten, Pac 12, and SEC in the last five years and the supposed power we're "underestimating" wasn't enough to hang on to Colorado, Nebraska or aTm. So if it's going to be a P5 cconference, it would definitely be the ACC.

I'm not saying you are crazy for suggesting the Big XII will poach from the ACC, it's been suggested before and anyone in the ACC perhaps save for BC and Cuse make sense, in one way or another. Florida State and Clemson probably make the most sense, but that does little for outlier WVU apart from creating divisions, so Louisville and Pitt make a ton of sense as well, hell all four make sense getting the Big XII to 14, but the ACC has their GOR in place for another decade or so.

Perhaps that GOR doesn't hold up, but if it does, the Big XII has zero current P5 options, but please tell us again about the awesome power of the Big XII.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/col.../13781545/
Maryland still gave up 31.4 million which is substantial for a school claiming losses. So in effect the GOR would and seems to be enforceable.

(12-06-2014 03:18 PM)RoyK Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 01:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 10:57 AM)CornMeal Wrote:  All of you are underestimating the power of the Big 12. If they need a new schools to add they won't be poaching G5 conferences. And they certainly aren't going to water down their football strength by adding crappy programs like Uconn, Temple, and Memphis.

They are already getting one loss teams into the playoffs without a conference championship so why would they bother to add these weaker schools?....they won't.

Cincinatti is the only one they might even look twice at in AAC but when they decide to expand they will be looking at schools from P5 conferences probably the ACC.

No friend, you're overestimating the power of the Big XII. They may be "looking at P5 members" and they can look all they want, but they've lost members to the Big Ten, Pac 12, and SEC in the last five years and the supposed power we're "underestimating" wasn't enough to hang on to Colorado, Nebraska or aTm. So if it's going to be a P5 cconference, it would definitely be the ACC.

I'm not saying you are crazy for suggesting the Big XII will poach from the ACC, it's been suggested before and anyone in the ACC perhaps save for BC and Cuse make sense, in one way or another. Florida State and Clemson probably make the most sense, but that does little for outlier WVU apart from creating divisions, so Louisville and Pitt make a ton of sense as well, hell all four make sense getting the Big XII to 14, but the ACC has their GOR in place for another decade or so.

Perhaps that GOR doesn't hold up, but if it does, the Big XII has zero current P5 options, but please tell us again about the awesome power of the Big XII.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/col.../13781545/
Maryland still gave up 31.4 million which is substantial for a school claiming losses. So in effect the GOR would and seems to be enforceable.

Wonder if schools that voted for the GOR, unlike Maryland, would have less of a case. At any rate, the money in the B1G made that move worth it, I'm not so sure that's the case in the Big XII.

(12-06-2014 03:26 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 03:18 PM)RoyK Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 01:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 10:57 AM)CornMeal Wrote:  All of you are underestimating the power of the Big 12. If they need a new schools to add they won't be poaching G5 conferences. And they certainly aren't going to water down their football strength by adding crappy programs like Uconn, Temple, and Memphis.

They are already getting one loss teams into the playoffs without a conference championship so why would they bother to add these weaker schools?....they won't.

Cincinatti is the only one they might even look twice at in AAC but when they decide to expand they will be looking at schools from P5 conferences probably the ACC.

No friend, you're overestimating the power of the Big XII. They may be "looking at P5 members" and they can look all they want, but they've lost members to the Big Ten, Pac 12, and SEC in the last five years and the supposed power we're "underestimating" wasn't enough to hang on to Colorado, Nebraska or aTm. So if it's going to be a P5 cconference, it would definitely be the ACC.

I'm not saying you are crazy for suggesting the Big XII will poach from the ACC, it's been suggested before and anyone in the ACC perhaps save for BC and Cuse make sense, in one way or another. Florida State and Clemson probably make the most sense, but that does little for outlier WVU apart from creating divisions, so Louisville and Pitt make a ton of sense as well, hell all four make sense getting the Big XII to 14, but the ACC has their GOR in place for another decade or so.

Perhaps that GOR doesn't hold up, but if it does, the Big XII has zero current P5 options, but please tell us again about the awesome power of the Big XII.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/col.../13781545/
Maryland still gave up 31.4 million which is substantial for a school claiming losses. So in effect the GOR would and seems to be enforceable.

Wonder if schools that voted for the GOR, unlike Maryland, would have less of a case. At any rate, the money in the B1G made that move worth it, I'm not so sure that's the case in the Big XII.

This I agree with they get a boost because their are only ten teams. Adding others cuts into this. one of their teams will get in the playoff but not two as I doubt if fl state wins and Ohio state that they would have the right reception ( lack of true championship game ) to jump either school.

(12-06-2014 02:59 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 11:05 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  The Sunbelt needs to poach Houston to give Texas State a travel partner.

We have enough bad teams already. No need to add more.

We should send an invite to Tulane just for chits and grins.

(12-06-2014 03:26 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 03:18 PM)RoyK Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 01:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 10:57 AM)CornMeal Wrote:  All of you are underestimating the power of the Big 12. If they need a new schools to add they won't be poaching G5 conferences. And they certainly aren't going to water down their football strength by adding crappy programs like Uconn, Temple, and Memphis.

They are already getting one loss teams into the playoffs without a conference championship so why would they bother to add these weaker schools?....they won't.

Cincinatti is the only one they might even look twice at in AAC but when they decide to expand they will be looking at schools from P5 conferences probably the ACC.

No friend, you're overestimating the power of the Big XII. They may be "looking at P5 members" and they can look all they want, but they've lost members to the Big Ten, Pac 12, and SEC in the last five years and the supposed power we're "underestimating" wasn't enough to hang on to Colorado, Nebraska or aTm. So if it's going to be a P5 cconference, it would definitely be the ACC.

I'm not saying you are crazy for suggesting the Big XII will poach from the ACC, it's been suggested before and anyone in the ACC perhaps save for BC and Cuse make sense, in one way or another. Florida State and Clemson probably make the most sense, but that does little for outlier WVU apart from creating divisions, so Louisville and Pitt make a ton of sense as well, hell all four make sense getting the Big XII to 14, but the ACC has their GOR in place for another decade or so.

Perhaps that GOR doesn't hold up, but if it does, the Big XII has zero current P5 options, but please tell us again about the awesome power of the Big XII.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/col.../13781545/
Maryland still gave up 31.4 million which is substantial for a school claiming losses. So in effect the GOR would and seems to be enforceable.

Wonder if schools that voted for the GOR, unlike Maryland, would have less of a case. At any rate, the money in the B1G made that move worth it, I'm not so sure that's the case in the Big XII.

No, cause in the Big XII, all the money runs through Austin . . . .

(12-06-2014 01:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 10:57 AM)CornMeal Wrote:  All of you are underestimating the power of the Big 12. If they need a new schools to add they won't be poaching G5 conferences. And they certainly aren't going to water down their football strength by adding crappy programs like Uconn, Temple, and Memphis.

They are already getting one loss teams into the playoffs without a conference championship so why would they bother to add these weaker schools?....they won't.

Cincinatti is the only one they might even look twice at in AAC but when they decide to expand they will be looking at schools from P5 conferences probably the ACC.

No friend, you're overestimating the power of the Big XII. They may be "looking at P5 members" and they can look all they want, but they've lost members to the Big Ten, Pac 12, and SEC in the last five years and the supposed power we're "underestimating" wasn't enough to hang on to Colorado, Nebraska or aTm. So if it's going to be a P5 cconference, it would definitely be the ACC.

I'm not saying you are crazy for suggesting the Big XII will poach from the ACC, it's been suggested before and anyone in the ACC perhaps save for BC and Cuse make sense, in one way or another. Florida State and Clemson probably make the most sense, but that does little for outlier WVU apart from creating divisions, so Louisville and Pitt make a ton of sense as well, hell all four make sense getting the Big XII to 14, but the ACC has their GOR in place for another decade or so.

Perhaps that GOR doesn't hold up, but if it does, the Big XII has zero current P5 options, but please tell us again about the awesome power of the Big XII.

I believe you are forgetting the actual reason those schools bolted from the Big 12...

It was specifically because of UT and the Longhorn Network/ESPN shenanigans. Which have since been changed because of the other member schools complaining and fighting it and leaving the conference.

A&M left because of UT and the long horn network and were not going to allow UT to have any sort of dominance over them. Don't believe me? Texas Tech came to play at Texas State a couple years ago to open our new stadium and they almost forfeited the game because they found out it was going to be shown on the Longhorn Network. That is how much of a fuss the whole thing caused within the conference.

Surely you can agree that the Big 12 is superior to the Big 10 in football?
-Nebraska left because of UT

And Colorado? lol they have been irrelevant for a long time and it was actually good for the Big 12 that they left. No loss there.

(12-06-2014 05:08 PM)CornMeal Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 01:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 10:57 AM)CornMeal Wrote:  All of you are underestimating the power of the Big 12. If they need a new schools to add they won't be poaching G5 conferences. And they certainly aren't going to water down their football strength by adding crappy programs like Uconn, Temple, and Memphis.

They are already getting one loss teams into the playoffs without a conference championship so why would they bother to add these weaker schools?....they won't.

Cincinatti is the only one they might even look twice at in AAC but when they decide to expand they will be looking at schools from P5 conferences probably the ACC.

No friend, you're overestimating the power of the Big XII. They may be "looking at P5 members" and they can look all they want, but they've lost members to the Big Ten, Pac 12, and SEC in the last five years and the supposed power we're "underestimating" wasn't enough to hang on to Colorado, Nebraska or aTm. So if it's going to be a P5 cconference, it would definitely be the ACC.

I'm not saying you are crazy for suggesting the Big XII will poach from the ACC, it's been suggested before and anyone in the ACC perhaps save for BC and Cuse make sense, in one way or another. Florida State and Clemson probably make the most sense, but that does little for outlier WVU apart from creating divisions, so Louisville and Pitt make a ton of sense as well, hell all four make sense getting the Big XII to 14, but the ACC has their GOR in place for another decade or so.

Perhaps that GOR doesn't hold up, but if it does, the Big XII has zero current P5 options, but please tell us again about the awesome power of the Big XII.

I believe you are forgetting the actual reason those schools bolted from the Big 12...

It was specifically because of UT and the Longhorn Network/ESPN shenanigans. Which have since been changed because of the other member schools complaining and fighting it and leaving the conference.

A&M left because of UT and the long horn network and were not going to allow UT to have any sort of dominance over them. Don't believe me? Texas Tech came to play at Texas State a couple years ago to open our new stadium and they almost forfeited the game because they found out it was going to be shown on the Longhorn Network. That is how much of a fuss the whole thing caused within the conference.

Surely you can agree that the Big 12 is superior to the Big 10 in football?
-Nebraska left because of UT

And Colorado? lol they have been irrelevant for a long time and it was actually good for the Big 12 that they left. No loss there.

Who's your Big XII team, fanboy?