(12-05-2014 07:45 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 07:40 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 07:29 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  If you'd had been paying attention instead of freaking out when Marshall wasn't in the CFP poll, that's clearly how the committee views the G5 race.

Our chances of making the G5 Access Bowl are basically the equivalent of a Hail Mary pass against the ECU defense... It may be a longshot, but it's definitely doable.

lol

(12-08-2014 10:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 10:06 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 05:25 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 11:27 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 05:24 PM)EagleX Wrote:  I don't think people understand the depths of the indignity.

right now, on the espn.com college football main page, the marshall winning our conference championship is playing below, among other things, GT coach signing a contract extension.

we're less significant than administrative/housekeeping news.

Not just us, all of the G5 are. Something has to change. The media are at least half the problem. Perhaps we need to try to create change there instead, rather than with the P5. My guess is that starts with filling our stadiums, putting good products on the field and getting lots of eyeballs on the broadcasts. And possibly buy the products advertised on the games and letting the businesses know we saw their ads on CUSA games. Oh yeah, and beating the P5 whenever we get a chance. Its a shame thats only in the HoD bowl. I'd like our chances there better if it were Marshall playing, but I'm rooting hard for LT and all the CUSA and G5.

Not all G5,the AAC gets decent coverage and ESPN has been doing a nice job with the AAC blog.

So the AAC is the Tallest Midget? Your conference champ will never get a playoff spot as long as its limited to four teams. Your conference champ has to be the highest ranked of the G5 to get a New Year's Six bid. I don't see any difference between the AAC and the rest when it comes to football.

If our conference champ went undefeated and had a decent OOC they would be top 8, and getting legitimate playoff coverage. If you want proof, look at ECU had we beat USC we would've been top 15 before we played Temple.

Let's say you're right. You do understand that your SOS dropped steadily after the South Carolina game, right? You would have gone 12-0 without a single win over a top 25 teams. Do you think 12-0 without a win over a top 25 team, playing a SOS of 112 (yes, your SOS ended up at 112 after making fun of ours all year) is going to be put in the top 4 or 8, or even 16, by the committee?

(12-09-2014 10:11 AM)banker Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 10:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 10:06 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 05:25 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 11:27 PM)monarx Wrote:  Not just us, all of the G5 are. Something has to change. The media are at least half the problem. Perhaps we need to try to create change there instead, rather than with the P5. My guess is that starts with filling our stadiums, putting good products on the field and getting lots of eyeballs on the broadcasts. And possibly buy the products advertised on the games and letting the businesses know we saw their ads on CUSA games. Oh yeah, and beating the P5 whenever we get a chance. Its a shame thats only in the HoD bowl. I'd like our chances there better if it were Marshall playing, but I'm rooting hard for LT and all the CUSA and G5.

Not all G5,the AAC gets decent coverage and ESPN has been doing a nice job with the AAC blog.

So the AAC is the Tallest Midget? Your conference champ will never get a playoff spot as long as its limited to four teams. Your conference champ has to be the highest ranked of the G5 to get a New Year's Six bid. I don't see any difference between the AAC and the rest when it comes to football.

If our conference champ went undefeated and had a decent OOC they would be top 8, and getting legitimate playoff coverage. If you want proof, look at ECU had we beat USC we would've been top 15 before we played Temple.

Let's say you're right. You do understand that your SOS dropped steadily after the South Carolina game, right? You would have gone 12-0 without a single win over a top 25 teams. Do you think 12-0 without a win over a top 25 team, playing a SOS of 112 (yes, your SOS ended up at 112 after making fun of ours all year) is going to be put in the top 4 or 8, or even 16, by the committee?

You don't get it. A 12-0 Boise with a slightly worse OOC would've been top 12. Obviously the committee still had us at 17th even though we didn't have a win over a current top 25 team (and a loss). If we go undefeated we are easily top 10.

Boise's SOS ended up at 73, yours was 112. It's funny, AAC fans made fun of Marshall's schedule all year, and it was bad, ending up at 126. However, as mentioned, ECU ended up at 112, Memphis was 123, UCF was 115 and Houston was 129. Only Cincinnati, out of the top 5 AAC teams had a SOS in the top 100 coming in at 93.

Here's what you are missing - the AAC was horrible this year. Five of your teams, nearly half the conference, was putrid.

Final Sagarin ranking:

SMU -195
Uconn -176
Tulsa-153
South Florida -142
Tulane -136

That's like playing 5 FCS teams in conference. Boise doesn't have that issue playing in the MWC Mountain division. So yeah, they could move up if undefeated, you had no shot. You would have fallen just like FSU did, only more dramatically, even though you were winning.

(12-08-2014 10:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 10:06 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 05:25 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 11:27 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 05:24 PM)EagleX Wrote:  I don't think people understand the depths of the indignity.

right now, on the espn.com college football main page, the marshall winning our conference championship is playing below, among other things, GT coach signing a contract extension.

we're less significant than administrative/housekeeping news.

Not just us, all of the G5 are. Something has to change. The media are at least half the problem. Perhaps we need to try to create change there instead, rather than with the P5. My guess is that starts with filling our stadiums, putting good products on the field and getting lots of eyeballs on the broadcasts. And possibly buy the products advertised on the games and letting the businesses know we saw their ads on CUSA games. Oh yeah, and beating the P5 whenever we get a chance. Its a shame thats only in the HoD bowl. I'd like our chances there better if it were Marshall playing, but I'm rooting hard for LT and all the CUSA and G5.

Not all G5,the AAC gets decent coverage and ESPN has been doing a nice job with the AAC blog.

So the AAC is the Tallest Midget? Your conference champ will never get a playoff spot as long as its limited to four teams. Your conference champ has to be the highest ranked of the G5 to get a New Year's Six bid. I don't see any difference between the AAC and the rest when it comes to football.

If our conference champ went undefeated and had a decent OOC they would be top 8, and getting legitimate playoff coverage. If you want proof, look at ECU had we beat USC we would've been top 15 before we played Temple.

The playoff is limited to the top 4 teams, if Baylor and TCU don't make it at 11-1 NO 12-0 AAC team will ever make it unless you have 4 OOC wins against teams in the final top 25.

(12-09-2014 06:44 PM)banker Wrote:  Boise's SOS ended up at 73, yours was 112. It's funny, AAC fans made fun of Marshall's schedule all year, and it was bad, ending up at 126. However, as mentioned, ECU ended up at 112, Memphis was 123, UCF was 115 and Houston was 129. Only Cincinnati, out of the top 5 AAC teams had a SOS in the top 100 coming in at 93.

Here's what you are missing - the AAC was horrible this year. Five of your teams, nearly half the conference, was putrid.

Final Sagarin ranking:

SMU -195
Uconn -176
Tulsa-153
South Florida -142
Tulane -136

That's like playing 5 FCS teams in conference. Boise doesn't have that issue playing in the MWC Mountain division. So yeah, they could move up if undefeated, you had no shot. You would have fallen just like FSU did, only more dramatically, even though you were winning.

Exactly! Even though the AAC is down, they are still seen as better than the MAC, SBC, or CUSA.

Geez, you totally lack comprehension.

(12-09-2014 10:21 PM)banker Wrote:  Geez, you totally lack comprehension.

No you try and change the conversation because you're wrong and you know it.

And what you're conveniently forgetting is that FSU didn't have teams ahead of them to lose, and drop down, nor did they play any good teams after Clemson. The AAC champion would've still had at least two good teams.

No, you read a complete, coherent thought, pick out two words, form a distorted opinion and go with it. I'll try to make it easier:

You're SOS steadily declined after the North Carolina win.

The value of your VT and UNC wins steadily declined since they turned out to be mediocre teams.

Your SOS was in the 30s when you were ranked and ended up being 112. You would have peaked around 14 or 15 if you were undefeated then would have started getting passed by P5 teams as they picked up quality wins and increased their SOS in conference play.

Could you have hung on as high as 16? Well, let's take a look at who ended up 16, 10-3 Missouri, the SEC west champ that had a SOS of 13. Two of their losses were to the #1 and #13 ranked teams in the final ranking. They had wins over A&M, Arkansas, Tennessee, South Carolina, Florida, crushed UCF, etc.

If you went undefeated, please make the case why ECU is more deserving of the #16 spot than Missouri. If you can't make a case as to why you are more deserving than Missouri, based on the way the committee says they view things, then you can't make a case for why you would be in the top 16, let alone in the top 10. This is not like the old polls where once you get ranked you just keep moving up as long as you win and other teams lose. They have no problem jumping teams even if they win and not dropping them even if they lose. Look at TCU, they got dropped even though they won their final game 55-3.

(12-09-2014 10:29 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 10:21 PM)banker Wrote:  Geez, you totally lack comprehension.

No you try and change the conversation because you're wrong and you know it.

And what you're conveniently forgetting is that FSU didn't have teams ahead of them to lose, and drop down, nor did they play any good teams after Clemson. The AAC champion would've still had at least two good teams.

Thank you!!

Take care!