All credit to salukiblue for this analysis:

“salukiblue Wrote: We knew going into the Josh Pastner experiment that he was going to have a "learn while you earn" tenure. That was fine year one.

And year two. But even during that time, concerns started to pop up: Sallie has to leave because he can't be controlled, the benching of Joe, Spoon's tendinitis, the infighting between Murphy and Wilson. Some bad losses vs. SMU, Rice and ECU. Frank is hired to revolutionize conditioning.

By year three, the poor start in Maui wasn't great. Then Carmouche got tendinitis. Joe threatens to transfer. Simpson gets suspended. The DAP system is created. He decides he doesn't need a 3rd assistant. Then he brings in Walton. Then Williams. Murphy leaves. Damon comes in. CUSA is a great conference. We hear that over and over. Players mom's fight at the NCAA game.

By year four, Joe gets benched again, A. Barton walks off the court in an exhibition game. Crawford and Thomas get suspended for being late for something. Tarik walks out then returns. Josh hold a press conference to announce Tarik is still on the team.

The team is locked out of the locker room. A loss at home to UTEP and the names are off the jerseys. He wins his first ever game vs. a T25 team then promptly gets run off the floor by MSU.

Last year, high expectations. Gonna run and press. Senior guards and two competent post players. Some new recruits. Woodson stays home on the secret scrimmage to Baylor and is suspended various times in the season. Very little running and pressing. Early blowout loss then a "course correction." Then later (no joke) a "course correction to the course correction." The four guard thing is scrapped. Then it's the repeating mantra of "shots just need to fall."

There really doesn't seem to be a true understanding and communication of what is going on. He uses buzzwords that sound cute enough to the masses but don't ring true for those who want assurances that he REALLY knows how right a ship.

This year, the trip to Canada to build chemistry and experience. Lose to CBU and he says we need to work on picking up tempo. A week later, lose to WSU and maybe need to work on being more deliberate.

Players play out of position, players aren't recruited for the right positions. Substitution patterns are mind boggling at times and players roles are often poorly defined. Not calling timeouts. Calling them after made baskets. He runs around like a chicken with his head cut off on the sidelines, sometimes stomping, sometimes waving flashcards, often frustrated and ignored. Multiple coaches coaching at the same time, yelling at guys who just look confused as hell.”

Thanks. There is a lot more to add, and I will note the UTEP loss was year three.

I also didn't even include the flashcard stuff.

But Howland underachieved at Ucla

Yeah, that is pretty freakin spot on. Mystifying that some people don't see it. Hopefully the right ones do.

Spot on. The experiment and the 'wait till the end of the year' or 'we've got young/new players' should be over. It's not just this year. The 6 year sample size is large enough. And please don't start with the 'When you come up with the buyout money then you can talk' mantra. That's absurd.

(12-05-2014 11:26 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  Spot on. The experiment and the 'wait till the end of the year' or 'we've got young/new players' should be over. It's not just this year. The 6 year sample size is large enough. And please don't start with the 'When you come up with the buyout money then you can talk' mantra. That's absurd.

Hopefully that guy is at work

I dare anyone to say DAP system while keeping a straight face. SMH

(12-05-2014 11:12 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  I also didn't even include the flashcard stuff.

I don't think anyone would care if he sent up smoke signals if some of this other stuff weren't the status quo.

(12-05-2014 11:32 AM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  I dare anyone to say DAP system while keeping a straight face. SMH

What's the DAP system?

Also, wasn't our entire off-season focus supposed to be on conditioning and defense? Our defense has looked absolutely deplorable up to this point. It's mind-bottling.

I think we are 34th in total D so far this year although guarding the perimeter 3 is still an issue.

(12-05-2014 11:40 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:32 AM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  I dare anyone to say DAP system while keeping a straight face. SMH

What's the DAP system?

http://www.commercialappeal.com/sports/t...se-dap-gap

"University of Memphis basketball players and coaches call them "daps."

And though more commonly thought of as a fist bump or high-five, the Tigers have stretched the meaning of the term to include words of encouragement or approval such as "nice pass" or "good rebound."

On Thursday, the Memphis coaching staff was counting "daps" during a two-hour practice at the Finch Center, just as it does shot attempts, rebounds, turnovers and steals. The message was clear: Head coach Josh Pastner wants his Tigers, with eight new faces, to improve their team chemistry as they work toward their Nov. 3 exhibition opener against LeMoyne-Owen College.

"I was actually talking to (sports psychologist) Dr. (Joe) Carr about it, and he mentioned the Los Angeles Lakers and Boston Celtics use the most high-fives, daps and positive feedback between each other of anyone in the league. And they both obviously played for the (NBA) title last season," Pastner said.

"I felt that was something we should do. We're going to keep track of our daps, high-fives and positive feedback. For a team that needs to talk more, it was actually a good thing today.""

Enter: "So, we have some off the court drama like every other program..."

Great and fair synopsis that just shows the utter confusion coming from the head coach. Wishy-washy flavor of the day phrases and styles, nothing consistent and it shows on the court.

(12-05-2014 11:26 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  Spot on. The experiment and the 'wait till the end of the year' or 'we've got young/new players' should be over. It's not just this year. The 6 year sample size is large enough. And please don't start with the 'When you come up with the buyout money then you can talk' mantra. That's absurd.

This I agree with.

(12-05-2014 11:26 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  Spot on. The experiment and the 'wait till the end of the year' or 'we've got young/new players' should be over. It's not just this year. The 6 year sample size is large enough. And please don't start with the 'When you come up with the buyout money then you can talk' mantra. That's absurd.

Yep

(12-05-2014 11:44 AM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  Also, wasn't our entire off-season focus supposed to be on conditioning and defense? Our defense has looked absolutely deplorable up to this point. It's mind-bottling.

Lots of "mind bottling" going around these days.

I understand the point overall - and don't disagree, but you really have ignored A LOT of positive stuff if this is how you view the last six years.
-Wesley's buzzer beater against St. John's in NIT
-Eliot named Conference USA Newcomer of the year
-Conference Tourney championship w/ Joe as MVP of the tournament
-multiple DJ Stephens dunks on ESPN Top 10, including dunk of the year
-two wins in one year against UT
-another win over UT (in Knoxville) the next year
-NCAA tourney win vs St Mary's
-winning the Old Spice Classic in Orlando
-two wins over Louisville last season
-wins over Gonzaga and SMU last season
-NCAA tourney win over GW
-overall 3 conference tournament championships and 4 NCAA tourney appearances

Did they ever settle up on that roomservice porn bill alleged to Carmouche?

Which reminds me, who has a redbox pass with deals??

(12-05-2014 11:46 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:40 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:32 AM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  I dare anyone to say DAP system while keeping a straight face. SMH

What's the DAP system?

http://www.commercialappeal.com/sports/t...se-dap-gap

"University of Memphis basketball players and coaches call them "daps."

And though more commonly thought of as a fist bump or high-five, the Tigers have stretched the meaning of the term to include words of encouragement or approval such as "nice pass" or "good rebound."

On Thursday, the Memphis coaching staff was counting "daps" during a two-hour practice at the Finch Center, just as it does shot attempts, rebounds, turnovers and steals. The message was clear: Head coach Josh Pastner wants his Tigers, with eight new faces, to improve their team chemistry as they work toward their Nov. 3 exhibition opener against LeMoyne-Owen College.

"I was actually talking to (sports psychologist) Dr. (Joe) Carr about it, and he mentioned the Los Angeles Lakers and Boston Celtics use the most high-fives, daps and positive feedback between each other of anyone in the league. And they both obviously played for the (NBA) title last season," Pastner said.

"I felt that was something we should do. We're going to keep track of our daps, high-fives and positive feedback. For a team that needs to talk more, it was actually a good thing today.""

Oh my gosh. That sounds like some stupid sh@$ done at a stupid corporate conference.

(12-05-2014 02:08 PM)Trapper John Wrote:  I understand the point overall - and don't disagree, but you really have ignored A LOT of positive stuff if this is how you view the last six years.
-Wesley's buzzer beater against St. John's in NIT
-Eliot named Conference USA Newcomer of the year
-Conference Tourney championship w/ Joe as MVP of the tournament
-multiple DJ Stephens dunks on ESPN Top 10, including dunk of the year
-two wins in one year against UT
-another win over UT (in Knoxville) the next year
-NCAA tourney win vs St Mary's
-winning the Old Spice Classic in Orlando
-two wins over Louisville last season
-wins over Gonzaga and SMU last season
-NCAA tourney win over GW
-overall 3 conference tournament championships and 4 NCAA tourney appearances

Stop posting the positive stuff.