(12-05-2014 10:45 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  UCF has been great in this conference, however, sadly there is very little national relevance. Was listening to FoxSports radio's national morning guys and they mocked the conference affiliation. In fact, they couldn't even name the conference. This is an uphill battle because of the $.

Of course the FoxSports morning guys mocked the conference. That is a bit radio guys use for most conferences outside of the SEC. Fortunately, radio innuendo doesn't dictate relevance. What UCF did in the Fiesta last year is a lot more germane to relevance. Sportshow guys will always draw hard lines and use language designed to make them sound discerning. It's the game.

Between exposure and achievements, the AAC is doing just fine carving out their place. That said, it is still just year 2, and announcers will play on just that fact when acting like they don't know the conference. However, they do. It's their job to know. It's just them playing up to a segment of their listeners who only pay attention to a certain Southern conference, and act like there's nothing else. It's the game.

(12-05-2014 11:17 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:54 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  I think that's the most dangerous thing for the conference. UCFs name recognition is definitely out pacing the AACs (and don't get me wrong, neither is household). If UCF leaves, it's square one for the AAC.

Good lord, get over yourselves.

Most people I run into know who UCF is, very few know what conference they play in or who else is in the conference when I tell them it's the American.

In fact, this is the reaction I get most often from strangers when I wear UCF stuff around Atlanta:
"They've got quite a team"
"I love GOL" (a lot of GT fans in the area)

most common question far and away:
"What conference are they in?"

(12-05-2014 11:31 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:28 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:25 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:19 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  My concern, say Boise losses, UCF would be a fringe top 25 team at best and the P5's will lose it when they see what they deem (right or wrong) to be a lesser program get a big time bowl berth over one of their friends. That may start the ball rolling to them changing the rules, why, because they can and they only care about $. Hell even if Boise wins they might *****.

How would they get a birth of a P5? G5 is a guaranteed slot. In addition, not really sure they would be in the Top 25 over Memphis or Cincy, that UCONN loss is really bad. To be fair to ECU, the squandered two victories against Memphis and Cincy. Tubberville did his best to lose the ECU game but ECU wanted to lose worse. ECU performed the worst clock management I have ever seen. What team runs 15 yards toward their endzone on fourth down when they have the opponent deep in their territory with no timeouts?

This year... a fringe top 25 G5 gets blown out and they'll be talk of the G5 needing to be ranked top 10 or 15 to claim the spot next year.

Yup.

What if that 'fringe' team wins?

It would sure be a good statement on the bogus rankings; which are a lot more peculiar this year than they've ever been.

I'll take our chances. I think the best of the AAC, or even the MWC, is better than advertised. ECU showed that early on, when their neighbors were just given rankings for conference affiliation. They beat Va Tech, who beat Ohio State.

This "gap" between the Swastikas ("P5") and the Stars of David ("G5") truly needs to be explored, and there's just one way. So far, the Stars have performed very well in BCS games.

(12-05-2014 11:37 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  Most people I run into know who UCF is, very few know what conference they play in or who else is in the conference when I tell them it's the American.

In fact, this is the reaction I get most often from strangers when I wear UCF stuff around Atlanta:
"They've got quite a team"
"I love GOL" (a lot of GT fans in the area)

most common question far and away:
"What conference are they in?"

You should tell them, "the same conference that houses the CBBall Championship (both ones)."

If you're in the south, you should be prepared for ignorance (and arrogance) of anything non-SEC related. It's just how they roll.

That said, we are just in year 2 of AAC play. We're on the right network. Branding is a process.

(12-05-2014 11:56 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:37 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  Most people I run into know who UCF is, very few know what conference they play in or who else is in the conference when I tell them it's the American.

In fact, this is the reaction I get most often from strangers when I wear UCF stuff around Atlanta:
"They've got quite a team"
"I love GOL" (a lot of GT fans in the area)

most common question far and away:
"What conference are they in?"

You should tell them, the same conference that houses the CBBall Championship (both ones).

If you're in the south, you should be prepared for ignorance (and arrogance) of anything non-SEC related. It's just how they roll.

That said, we are just in year 2 of AAC play. We're on the right network. Branding is a process.

I agree, the one problem is the massive money gap that widens with each passing year. B12 schools make about the same per school that the AAC does as a conference. It is imperative that Aresco gets us a new or improved TV payout, I think the conference has proven that it deserves better.

(12-05-2014 11:56 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  You should tell them, "the same conference that houses the CBBall Championship (both ones)."

If you're in the south, you should be prepared for ignorance (and arrogance) of anything non-SEC related. It's just how they roll.

That said, we are just in year 2 of AAC play. We're on the right network. Branding is a process.

Yeah CBB conversations go similar ways. Everyone knows UCONN, most people would tell you they play in the BigEast. When correct that it's the American, no one can name you another team.

I understand it's because the league has only been around a couple of years, but that was my point. Right now the teams are bigger than the conference and it would be devastating if those teams left, before their successes can be identified with the conference.

(12-05-2014 12:23 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Having a dominant team (particularly a Florida team), year in and year out, pays immeasurable dividends.

Every conference needs a bellcow, and UCF is making its case. It's a very compelling case I might add.

I feel for the ECU fans out there but this may end up helping them in the long run.

To continue building football, we definitely need less parity and more clutch performances by our most recognized teams.

Damn.. What a finish!!!

lol, the total dominance of a co-title..."bell cows" don't share titles.

(12-05-2014 11:37 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:17 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:54 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  I think that's the most dangerous thing for the conference. UCFs name recognition is definitely out pacing the AACs (and don't get me wrong, neither is household). If UCF leaves, it's square one for the AAC.

Good lord, get over yourselves.

Most people I run into know who UCF is, very few know what conference they play in or who else is in the conference when I tell them it's the American.

In fact, this is the reaction I get most often from strangers when I wear UCF stuff around Atlanta:
"They've got quite a team"
"I love GOL" (a lot of GT fans in the area)

most common question far and away:
"What conference are they in?"

These are the most laughable, ridiculous comments I have read on this board in a long time. If UCF leaves, the conference is at square one? Read the media contract, people only know who UCF is? Where? In Orlando? Because no one knows who the hell they are in the places I travel. Yippeee! UCF shared the conference title, have a great celebration, you deserve it, but leave the fiction for professional writers, because you suck at it.

(12-05-2014 12:43 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:37 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:17 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:54 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  I think that's the most dangerous thing for the conference. UCFs name recognition is definitely out pacing the AACs (and don't get me wrong, neither is household). If UCF leaves, it's square one for the AAC.

Good lord, get over yourselves.

Most people I run into know who UCF is, very few know what conference they play in or who else is in the conference when I tell them it's the American.

In fact, this is the reaction I get most often from strangers when I wear UCF stuff around Atlanta:
"They've got quite a team"
"I love GOL" (a lot of GT fans in the area)

most common question far and away:
"What conference are they in?"

These are the most laughable, ridiculous comments I have read on this board in a long time. If UCF leaves, the conference is at square one? Read the media contract, people only know who UCF is? Where? In Orlando? Because no one knows who the hell they are in the places I travel. Yippeee! UCF shared the conference title, have a great celebration, you deserve it, but leave the fiction for professional writers, because you suck at it.

Actually nothing he said is wrong. I was in Vegas 3 months ago and had people talking to me about UCF when weairng my Knights gear. They all seemed pretty well understood about where UCF is and who we are.

The Fiesta Bowl win was huge for UCF exposure and national recognition. Winning another 9 games this year has helped as well.

Sounds like you're just butthurt that this is true and not true for Cincy.

(12-05-2014 10:54 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:45 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:33 AM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:31 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  You Houston fans can "caveat" things however you want.

The rest of the nation sees 15-1 and agrees that it's a dominant record.

W's are all that matters.

The "rest of the nation" doesn't give a damn about UCF or anyone else in this conference.

UCF has been great in this conference, however, sadly there is very little national relevance. Was listening to FoxSports radio's national morning guys and they mocked the conference affiliation. In fact, they couldn't even name the conference. This is an uphill battle because of the $.

I think that's the most dangerous thing for the conference. UCFs name recognition is definitely out pacing the AACs (and don't get me wrong, neither is household). If UCF leaves, it's square one for the AAC.

Seriously man, just stop it. As a UCF fan I must say we have some UCF fans on here that really need to get a grip. Of course there are some fans from other schools that are just as bad, we all have them. I think some people just don't know how to handle winning, even if you are baited by other fans just ignore them. Get a grip and keep it classy or at the very least troll humorously.

(12-05-2014 10:22 AM)pesik Wrote:  i disagree with the florida part, ECU winning nad havingthem viewed as good would honeslty make no difference IMO
Beating each other doesnt make bell cows, Beating P5 does

with that said, those kind of finishes are what we need, every sports site has that game up as the headline, and with a video

games like that will be huge for the league...

Agreed. Great game, great for league only one thing better: Beating P5's is most important.

(12-05-2014 12:50 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 12:43 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:37 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:17 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:54 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  I think that's the most dangerous thing for the conference. UCFs name recognition is definitely out pacing the AACs (and don't get me wrong, neither is household). If UCF leaves, it's square one for the AAC.

Good lord, get over yourselves.

Most people I run into know who UCF is, very few know what conference they play in or who else is in the conference when I tell them it's the American.

In fact, this is the reaction I get most often from strangers when I wear UCF stuff around Atlanta:
"They've got quite a team"
"I love GOL" (a lot of GT fans in the area)

most common question far and away:
"What conference are they in?"

These are the most laughable, ridiculous comments I have read on this board in a long time. If UCF leaves, the conference is at square one? Read the media contract, people only know who UCF is? Where? In Orlando? Because no one knows who the hell they are in the places I travel. Yippeee! UCF shared the conference title, have a great celebration, you deserve it, but leave the fiction for professional writers, because you suck at it.

Actually nothing he said is wrong. I was in Vegas 3 months ago and had people talking to me about UCF when weairng my Knights gear. They all seemed pretty well understood about where UCF is and who we are.

The Fiesta Bowl win was huge for UCF exposure and national recognition. Winning another 9 games this year has helped as well.

Sounds like you're just butthurt that this is true and not true for Cincy.

Yep, that's it, I am butthurt, get a grip UCF fans, you have had a couple of good seasons, congrats, you are not freaking Alabama. Ridiculous.

(12-05-2014 12:58 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  Yep, that's it, I am butthurt, get a grip UCF fans, you have had a couple of good seasons, congrats, you are not freaking Alabama. Ridiculous.

I'm glad you pointed that out. I think people were starting to get confused. Good to set the record straight.

(12-05-2014 12:58 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 12:50 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 12:43 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:37 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:17 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  Good lord, get over yourselves.

Most people I run into know who UCF is, very few know what conference they play in or who else is in the conference when I tell them it's the American.

In fact, this is the reaction I get most often from strangers when I wear UCF stuff around Atlanta:
"They've got quite a team"
"I love GOL" (a lot of GT fans in the area)

most common question far and away:
"What conference are they in?"

These are the most laughable, ridiculous comments I have read on this board in a long time. If UCF leaves, the conference is at square one? Read the media contract, people only know who UCF is? Where? In Orlando? Because no one knows who the hell they are in the places I travel. Yippeee! UCF shared the conference title, have a great celebration, you deserve it, but leave the fiction for professional writers, because you suck at it.

Actually nothing he said is wrong. I was in Vegas 3 months ago and had people talking to me about UCF when weairng my Knights gear. They all seemed pretty well understood about where UCF is and who we are.

The Fiesta Bowl win was huge for UCF exposure and national recognition. Winning another 9 games this year has helped as well.

Sounds like you're just butthurt that this is true and not true for Cincy.

Yep, that's it, I am butthurt, get a grip UCF fans, you have had a couple of good seasons, congrats, you are not freaking Alabama. Ridiculous.

Did we ever say we're Alabama?

Again- you're butthurt and now inventing lies.

(12-05-2014 01:06 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Did we ever say we're Alabama?

Again- you're butthurt and now inventing lies.

He brought up the comparison to Alabama, which is awfully flattering. Good program.

I am about to be sick

(12-05-2014 11:59 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:56 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:37 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  Most people I run into know who UCF is, very few know what conference they play in or who else is in the conference when I tell them it's the American.

In fact, this is the reaction I get most often from strangers when I wear UCF stuff around Atlanta:
"They've got quite a team"
"I love GOL" (a lot of GT fans in the area)

most common question far and away:
"What conference are they in?"

You should tell them, the same conference that houses the CBBall Championship (both ones).

If you're in the south, you should be prepared for ignorance (and arrogance) of anything non-SEC related. It's just how they roll.

That said, we are just in year 2 of AAC play. We're on the right network. Branding is a process.

I agree, the one problem is the massive money gap that widens with each passing year. B12 schools make about the same per school that the AAC does as a conference. It is imperative that Aresco gets us a new or improved TV payout, I think the conference has proven that it deserves better.

FYI: The AAC is not a league with startup programs... The only reason the AAC was given a BS insulting tv contract was b/c of instability.

I mean, how can one of the so called p5 bottom feeder teams be worth more than the AAC.

(12-05-2014 01:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:59 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:56 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:37 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  Most people I run into know who UCF is, very few know what conference they play in or who else is in the conference when I tell them it's the American.

In fact, this is the reaction I get most often from strangers when I wear UCF stuff around Atlanta:
"They've got quite a team"
"I love GOL" (a lot of GT fans in the area)

most common question far and away:
"What conference are they in?"

You should tell them, the same conference that houses the CBBall Championship (both ones).

If you're in the south, you should be prepared for ignorance (and arrogance) of anything non-SEC related. It's just how they roll.

That said, we are just in year 2 of AAC play. We're on the right network. Branding is a process.

I agree, the one problem is the massive money gap that widens with each passing year. B12 schools make about the same per school that the AAC does as a conference. It is imperative that Aresco gets us a new or improved TV payout, I think the conference has proven that it deserves better.

FYI: The AAC is not a league with startup programs... The only reason the AAC was given a BS insulting tv contract was b/c of instability.

I mean, how can one of the so called p5 bottom feeder teams be worth more than the AAC.

FYI, I said nothing about startup programs. We all know the mitigating factors why the contract stinks (comparatively) but man getting 1/10 of the B12, I still say there were better (and far riskier I may add) options. Texas Tech and Iowa State each get a check that is greater than Memphis, Houston, Cinci, UCONN, UCF, USF, TU, TU, TU, SMU, ECU combined....it's mind boggling. That singular issue ($) will widen the gap each year as the P5 pile up the cash. It's a mad dash to the exit for schools like Memphis, UCF, CInci and UConn, the rest of us losers will be screwed.

(12-05-2014 12:58 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 12:50 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 12:43 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:37 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:17 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  Good lord, get over yourselves.

Most people I run into know who UCF is, very few know what conference they play in or who else is in the conference when I tell them it's the American.

In fact, this is the reaction I get most often from strangers when I wear UCF stuff around Atlanta:
"They've got quite a team"
"I love GOL" (a lot of GT fans in the area)

most common question far and away:
"What conference are they in?"

These are the most laughable, ridiculous comments I have read on this board in a long time. If UCF leaves, the conference is at square one? Read the media contract, people only know who UCF is? Where? In Orlando? Because no one knows who the hell they are in the places I travel. Yippeee! UCF shared the conference title, have a great celebration, you deserve it, but leave the fiction for professional writers, because you suck at it.

Actually nothing he said is wrong. I was in Vegas 3 months ago and had people talking to me about UCF when weairng my Knights gear. They all seemed pretty well understood about where UCF is and who we are.

The Fiesta Bowl win was huge for UCF exposure and national recognition. Winning another 9 games this year has helped as well.

Sounds like you're just butthurt that this is true and not true for Cincy.

Yep, that's it, I am butthurt, get a grip UCF fans, you have had a couple of good seasons, congrats, you are not freaking Alabama. Ridiculous.

A couple?
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(12-05-2014 02:03 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 01:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:59 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:56 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:37 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  Most people I run into know who UCF is, very few know what conference they play in or who else is in the conference when I tell them it's the American.

In fact, this is the reaction I get most often from strangers when I wear UCF stuff around Atlanta:
"They've got quite a team"
"I love GOL" (a lot of GT fans in the area)

most common question far and away:
"What conference are they in?"

You should tell them, the same conference that houses the CBBall Championship (both ones).

If you're in the south, you should be prepared for ignorance (and arrogance) of anything non-SEC related. It's just how they roll.

That said, we are just in year 2 of AAC play. We're on the right network. Branding is a process.

I agree, the one problem is the massive money gap that widens with each passing year. B12 schools make about the same per school that the AAC does as a conference. It is imperative that Aresco gets us a new or improved TV payout, I think the conference has proven that it deserves better.

FYI: The AAC is not a league with startup programs... The only reason the AAC was given a BS insulting tv contract was b/c of instability.

I mean, how can one of the so called p5 bottom feeder teams be worth more than the AAC.

FYI, I said nothing about startup programs. We all know the mitigating factors why the contract stinks (comparatively) but man getting 1/10 of the B12, I still say there were better (and far riskier I may add) options. Texas Tech and Iowa State each get a check that is greater than Memphis, Houston, Cinci, UCONN, UCF, USF, TU, TU, TU, SMU, ECU combined....it's mind boggling. That singular issue ($) will widen the gap each year as the P5 pile up the cash. It's a mad dash to the exit for schools like Memphis, UCF, CInci and UConn, the rest of us losers will be screwed.

I know you didn't say anything about startup programs, I was only making another point of view that this league is worth much much more than the BS insulting deal it received... That plus the negative devalue BS comments that are made towards the AAC.