(12-05-2014 08:06 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 07:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Taking a peek at TX vs KY... Hard to believe we used to compete at that level.

TX fans wanted Barnes out just the year before last.

Say it ain't so.

(12-05-2014 08:06 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 07:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Taking a peek at TX vs KY... Hard to believe we used to compete at that level.

TX fans wanted Barnes out just the year before last.

big big big difference between Rick Barnes and Josh

(12-05-2014 08:08 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 08:06 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 07:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Taking a peek at TX vs KY... Hard to believe we used to compete at that level.

TX fans wanted Barnes out just the year before last.

big big big difference between Rick Barnes and Josh

I get it, but just for fun...How? Other than years coaching. BTW, Barnes is they guy I wanted when Cal left. Don't know if RC ever talked to him.

(12-05-2014 08:08 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 08:06 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 07:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Taking a peek at TX vs KY... Hard to believe we used to compete at that level.

TX fans wanted Barnes out just the year before last.

big big big difference between Rick Barnes and Josh

Barnes has 16 years at TX.

14 NCAA appearances

Three sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four - so 6 runs worth talking about in 16 years

16/6 = 2.66

So something good every roughly 2 1/2 years.

Year 4 S16
Year 5 Final Four
Year 6 S16

Last 2 years were weak but this year (17) is looking pretty good.

Oh yeah, Barnes makes $2,400,000 / year

Naw, Pastner isn't overpaid...... Lol

(12-05-2014 08:42 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 08:08 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 08:06 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 07:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Taking a peek at TX vs KY... Hard to believe we used to compete at that level.

TX fans wanted Barnes out just the year before last.

big big big difference between Rick Barnes and Josh

Barnes has 16 years at TX.

14 NCAA appearances

Three sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four - so 6 runs worth talking about in 16 years

16/6 = 2.66

So something good every roughly 2 1/2 years.

Year 4 S16
Year 5 Final Four
Year 6 S16

Last 2 years were weak but this year (17) is looking pretty good.

anytime they want to make a trade, I'm all for it.

Barnes is a recipient of a school that somewhat recruits itself. He's seen to be a mediocre coach at best. Whoever we get next I hope it's a guy with some moxie. Good hard nosed coach. Barnes is too nice for me. He always looks like he has that deer in headlights look.

(12-05-2014 10:44 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  Barnes is a recipient of a school that somewhat recruits itself. He's seen to be a mediocre coach at best. Whoever we get next I hope it's a guy with some moxie. Good hard nosed coach. Barnes is too nice for me. He always looks like he has that deer in headlights look.

Texas is a plum job because basketball is a distant second to fans. No one gets upset enough to do anything when they are really bad as they were a few years ago. Several CBB writers/analysts say it one of best jobs in country for that reason. And whoever said Barnes makes less than Josh is really uninformed.

And I certainly value Mike DeCourcey's opinion more than any poster on this forum regarding college Bb.

(12-05-2014 08:42 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 08:08 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 08:06 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 07:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Taking a peek at TX vs KY... Hard to believe we used to compete at that level.

TX fans wanted Barnes out just the year before last.

big big big difference between Rick Barnes and Josh

I agree he has done good things at TX. but over the last 5 years he and JP have the same resume pretty much. I was just pointing out that even Barnes stumbled for a year.
Barnes has 16 years at TX.

14 NCAA appearances

Three sweet 16s, 2 elite 8s, 1 final four - so 6 runs worth talking about in 16 years

16/6 = 2.66

So something good every roughly 2 1/2 years.

Year 4 S16
Year 5 Final Four
Year 6 S16

Last 2 years were weak but this year (17) is looking pretty good.

(12-05-2014 10:44 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  Barnes is a recipient of a school that somewhat recruits itself. He's seen to be a mediocre coach at best. Whoever we get next I hope it's a guy with some moxie. Good hard nosed coach. Barnes is too nice for me. He always looks like he has that deer in headlights look.

I agree with this, however if my choices are Josh or Barnes I'll take RB eight days a week. Yes, we can do better than RB.

Every coach has an X's & O's guy on the bench. Josh has had opportunity after opportunity to go out and hire a veteran bench coach, yet he has refused to do so. To ignore such a pressing and obvious need is troubling. Now, Aki and Kirby have a lot of experience - both men know basketball, don't get me wrong. But no one would categorize either purely as an "X & O" guy.

IMO, the bigger issue is staff chemistry...

Josh has Willis Wilson on staff and he couldn't wait for the season to end, I know that for a 100% fact - heard it from someone very close to Wilson 3 years ago. It has a lot to do with favoritism and it's a problem that persist on the current staff IMO. I've referred to that in other threads for a while now...

Player chemistry is just as important as staff chemistry - something that, I think, has plagued Josh's tenure here. I'm not talking about coaches leaving to become HC or take an asst. spot for their lifelong friend. I'm talking about a team recognizing that some of the coaches don't get along...it divides a house.

(12-06-2014 12:56 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Every coach has an X's & O's guy on the bench. Josh has had opportunity after opportunity to go out and hire a veteran bench coach, yet he has refused to do so. To ignore such a pressing and obvious need is troubling. Now, Aki and Kirby have a lot of experience - both men know basketball, don't get me wrong. But no one would categorize either purely as an "X & O" guy.

IMO, the bigger issue is staff chemistry...

Josh has Willis Wilson on staff and he couldn't wait for the season to end, I know that for a 100% fact - heard it from someone very close to Wilson 3 years ago. It has a lot to do with favoritism and it's a problem that persist on the current staff IMO. I've referred to that in other threads for a while now...

Player chemistry is just as important as staff chemistry - something that, I think, has plagued Josh's tenure here. I'm not talking about coaches leaving to become HC or take an asst. spot for their lifelong friend. I'm talking about a team recognizing that some of the coaches don't get along...it divides a house.

Someone dared to mention this a few years back and got banned from practice

(12-06-2014 12:56 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Every coach has an X's & O's guy on the bench. Josh has had opportunity after opportunity to go out and hire a veteran bench coach, yet he has refused to do so. To ignore such a pressing and obvious need is troubling. Now, Aki and Kirby have a lot of experience - both men know basketball, don't get me wrong. But no one would categorize either purely as an "X & O" guy.

IMO, the bigger issue is staff chemistry...

Josh has Willis Wilson on staff and he couldn't wait for the season to end, I know that for a 100% fact - heard it from someone very close to Wilson 3 years ago. It has a lot to do with favoritism and it's a problem that persist on the current staff IMO. I've referred to that in other threads for a while now...

Player chemistry is just as important as staff chemistry - something that, I think, has plagued Josh's tenure here. I'm not talking about coaches leaving to become HC or take an asst. spot for their lifelong friend. I'm talking about a team recognizing that some of the coaches don't get along...it divides a house.

I'm sure his assistants realize they are smarter and know more than JP. When JP will not listen they probably just mail it in, collect their paycheck and move on. I imagine his hard to follow JPs leadership

(12-06-2014 01:37 PM)thewood3 Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 12:56 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Every coach has an X's & O's guy on the bench. Josh has had opportunity after opportunity to go out and hire a veteran bench coach, yet he has refused to do so. To ignore such a pressing and obvious need is troubling. Now, Aki and Kirby have a lot of experience - both men know basketball, don't get me wrong. But no one would categorize either purely as an "X & O" guy.

IMO, the bigger issue is staff chemistry...

Josh has Willis Wilson on staff and he couldn't wait for the season to end, I know that for a 100% fact - heard it from someone very close to Wilson 3 years ago. It has a lot to do with favoritism and it's a problem that persist on the current staff IMO. I've referred to that in other threads for a while now...

Player chemistry is just as important as staff chemistry - something that, I think, has plagued Josh's tenure here. I'm not talking about coaches leaving to become HC or take an asst. spot for their lifelong friend. I'm talking about a team recognizing that some of the coaches don't get along...it divides a house.

I'm sure his assistants realize they are smarter and know more than JP. When JP will not listen they probably just mail it in, collect their paycheck and move on. I imagine his hard to follow JPs leadership

Just my opinion ...

I think Josh has buddies and josh has assistants. Murphy was his buddy. Julian is his buddy.

Aki and Kirby and Willis and Cyp (to an extent) are/were his assistants. They're there to connect with players and recruit.

Josh relies on his buddies to game plan and coach - those are the guys he trusts and listens to.

Again, just my opinion ...

It's gonna work out, you'll see.

Josh is the laughing stock within the ranks of premier college coaches. For a while (albeit a short while) I assumed the talk was mostly that of jealousy. It's actually insight from experience, knowledge and wisdom.

I think COACH LAWSON will fix this mess!!!

That's a national sportswriter's way of cticizing the coach. That's the closest one of them will come to saying "Josh can't cut it". Just read between the lines.