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Formation of football
From those of you who remember the beginnings of UAB football, how did things play out?

While I hope we continue to fight for football and ultimately win, I was wondering if folks would support or will try to organically re-start football (ie, starting with club level playing at the soccer field or new soccer stadium if that is still being planned). I suspect that whenever we would re-start football, we need to have something ongoing and working on building things from the ground up.

I just began to think about that since I noticed some folks planning a football scrimmage on the Green later this week in support of UAB. I know that many don't even want to think about starting over, but it might be a good way to continue to support football at UAB even if not supported from an administrative level.
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RE: Formation of football
There are no club football teams anymore
12-02-2014 06:59 PM
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First things first. Watts has to go.

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12-02-2014 09:36 PM
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Formation of football
From posts in social media, it sounds like club football is being looked into at UAB.
12-04-2014 01:10 AM
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(12-02-2014 09:36 PM)Smaug Wrote:  First things first. Watts has to go.

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Working on it. Bentley is the only option to get him out.
12-04-2014 01:19 AM
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RE: Formation of football
(12-02-2014 06:59 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  There are no club football teams anymore

Not true, these schools currently (2014) field club teams:

Boston University
Central Connecticut State University
Clarkson University
Coppin State University
Eastern Connecticut State University
George Mason University
Longwood University
Loyola University Chicago
Middle Georgia State College
Metropolitan State College of Denver
Miami University
Ohio State University
Radford University
Rollins College
Southern Illinois University - Edwardsville
Texas Tech University
University of Maine
University of Maryland - Eastern Shore
University of New Orleans
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
University of South Carolina
University of Vermont
University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Virginia Commonwealth University
Wright State University
Xavier University
Columbus State University- Columbus ga
12-04-2014 01:37 AM
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RE: Formation of football
(12-04-2014 01:37 AM)blazerjay Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 06:59 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  There are no club football teams anymore

Not true, these schools currently (2014) field club teams:

Boston University
Central Connecticut State University
Clarkson University
Coppin State University
Eastern Connecticut State University
George Mason University
Longwood University
Loyola University Chicago
Middle Georgia State College
Metropolitan State College of Denver
Miami University
Ohio State University
Radford University
Rollins College
Southern Illinois University - Edwardsville
Texas Tech University
University of Maine
University of Maryland - Eastern Shore
University of New Orleans
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
University of South Carolina
University of Vermont
University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Virginia Commonwealth University
Wright State University
Xavier University
Columbus State University- Columbus ga

First of all, I'm still not giving up on saving our current program back. Are there any NCAA guidelines/regulations for club football? If not, are there other regulations that are controlled by some other entity? I want a "Blazer" football team to fill the gap in the worse case until we can get a Div-I or Div-II (to start with) program re-established. If the governor would look at the composition of the board he presides over, he would know that it is "stacked" for PBJ to dictate whatever he wants. There's no accountability and no fair representation for the smaller sister campuses.
12-04-2014 09:36 AM
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RE: Formation of football
(12-04-2014 01:37 AM)blazerjay Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 06:59 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  There are no club football teams anymore

Not true, these schools currently (2014) field club teams:

Boston University
Central Connecticut State University
Clarkson University
Coppin State University
Eastern Connecticut State University
George Mason University
Longwood University
Loyola University Chicago
Middle Georgia State College
Metropolitan State College of Denver
Miami University
Ohio State University
Radford University
Rollins College
Southern Illinois University - Edwardsville
Texas Tech University
University of Maine
University of Maryland - Eastern Shore
University of New Orleans
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
University of South Carolina
University of Vermont
University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Virginia Commonwealth University
Wright State University
Xavier University
Columbus State University- Columbus ga

So we could probably play Miami, OSU, UNO, VCU, maybe UNC for Homecoming, as a nice analog/preview to the basketball matchup...

03-banghead03-hissyfit03-puke

Still, it would be better than nothing! If we HAVE to go the club route for 2015, we should try to get an 8-game season with 5 home games and 3 away games. 04-cheers
12-24-2014 01:34 AM
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RE: Formation of football
(12-04-2014 09:36 AM)blzrclub80 Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 01:37 AM)blazerjay Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 06:59 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  There are no club football teams anymore

Not true, these schools currently (2014) field club teams:

Boston University
Central Connecticut State University
Clarkson University
Coppin State University
Eastern Connecticut State University
George Mason University
Longwood University
Loyola University Chicago
Middle Georgia State College
Metropolitan State College of Denver
Miami University
Ohio State University
Radford University
Rollins College
Southern Illinois University - Edwardsville
Texas Tech University
University of Maine
University of Maryland - Eastern Shore
University of New Orleans
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
University of South Carolina
University of Vermont
University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Virginia Commonwealth University
Wright State University
Xavier University
Columbus State University- Columbus ga

First of all, I'm still not giving up on saving our current program back. Are there any NCAA guidelines/regulations for club football? If not, are there other regulations that are controlled by some other entity? I want a "Blazer" football team to fill the gap in the worse case until we can get a Div-I or Div-II (to start with) program re-established. If the governor would look at the composition of the board he presides over, he would know that it is "stacked" for PBJ to dictate whatever he wants. There's no accountability and no fair representation for the smaller sister campuses.
Get R Done

1) You have no other current option for 2015
2) There are no NCAA guidelines. Just whatever guidelines your school has for club sports,
3) Its a stopgap but can even co-exist with an NCAA program. Many on that list have a Div I program and a club team.

So you have nothing to lose and everything to gain short term
12-24-2014 06:51 AM
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RE: Formation of football
I personally think if there is a club team put together the right way, and the city were to give the Club team free rent for its first game at Legion Field, and there are 15,000 fans there, it sends the only message that can't be ignored.

I truly believe that.
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Ray Watts and the UA Board of Trustees have demonstrated themselves quite capable of ignoring any message not aligned with their worldview.
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RE: Formation of football
At the faculty senate meeting, I spoke with a former faculty senate member that had sign to established club football (George Munchus) He said technically that document has never been rescinded. Here is my thought: we have a head coach that is under contract for 2 more years, players who have not transferred will have their scholarships honored, we have a practice field and equipment. I would say that we would have one of the best club football teams in America. We could play BSC, Samford, junior colleges, etc (whoever wants a good scrimmage). I am pretty sure that Bham would let us play at Legion Field for free. Imagine the media attention if we had 30k+ for an "exhibition" game next September.
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I like the idea. Not sure of all the implications but it doesnt seem any different than club teams for rugby or any other sport. Should be doable and would show a "never give up spirit". Go Blazers!
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I hope Watts gets the boot and football is reinstated, even if Coach Clark has to start all over with 25 remaining players on campus. I couldn't think of a better Coach than Coach Clark to rebuild the team from scratch.
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Further, if a club team can be maintained with a coach and players, it's an easy template to transition right back into an official, non club team.

Seems like a great way to thumb our noses at Ray Watts and the BoT.
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RE: Formation of football
(12-24-2014 08:22 AM)boze Wrote:  At the faculty senate meeting, I spoke with a former faculty senate member that had sign to established club football (George Munchus) He said technically that document has never been rescinded. Here is my thought: we have a head coach that is under contract for 2 more years, players who have not transferred will have their scholarships honored, we have a practice field and equipment. I would say that we would have one of the best club football teams in America. We could play BSC, Samford, junior colleges, etc (whoever wants a good scrimmage). I am pretty sure that Bham would let us play at Legion Field for free. Imagine the media attention if we had 30k+ for an "exhibition" game next September.
When BSC did away with Div 1- some of my ex-players were told that they could not play for BSC and keep ship
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(12-24-2014 10:37 AM)USAFBlazerFan Wrote:  Further, if a club team can be maintained with a coach and players, it's an easy template to transition right back into an official, non club team.

Seems like a great way to thumb our noses at Ray Watts and the BoT.

My first thought about club football was "hell no".

But you guys might be on to something.
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(12-24-2014 10:49 AM)uabbean Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 08:22 AM)boze Wrote:  At the faculty senate meeting, I spoke with a former faculty senate member that had sign to established club football (George Munchus) He said technically that document has never been rescinded. Here is my thought: we have a head coach that is under contract for 2 more years, players who have not transferred will have their scholarships honored, we have a practice field and equipment. I would say that we would have one of the best club football teams in America. We could play BSC, Samford, junior colleges, etc (whoever wants a good scrimmage). I am pretty sure that Bham would let us play at Legion Field for free. Imagine the media attention if we had 30k+ for an "exhibition" game next September.
When BSC did away with Div 1- some of my ex-players were told that they could not play for BSC and keep ship

I would guess the difference in BSC was that they dropped divisions but kept NCAA sanctioned sports. I guess club football would be a division of intramural sports. Clark could just agree to "volunteer" his time. I wonder if some of the club/div 3 coaches would come out of retirement to "volunteer" again. Being a club team, no team would get credit for playing us, it would be a glorified scrimmage. However, I do imagine we could get some band members to "volunteer" their time as well.

The more I think about this, the more I think about how Watts, the BOT and the media would react. This could be ESPN 30 for 30 material. "A football team continuing to play after an unpopular president chooses to eliminate the program."
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Schools at the D3 and D2 level usually play a NAIA team or sometimes even an unsanctioned club or division-less team in their schedules

We would likely have to play every game on the road
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If we have to go back to Club Football, why not use West Campus Field as our home stadium? It seats roughly the same as Birmingham Southern. Just put up temporary field goals.
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