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RE: Formation of football
(12-24-2014 10:49 AM)uabbean Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 08:22 AM)boze Wrote:  At the faculty senate meeting, I spoke with a former faculty senate member that had sign to established club football (George Munchus) He said technically that document has never been rescinded. Here is my thought: we have a head coach that is under contract for 2 more years, players who have not transferred will have their scholarships honored, we have a practice field and equipment. I would say that we would have one of the best club football teams in America. We could play BSC, Samford, junior colleges, etc (whoever wants a good scrimmage). I am pretty sure that Bham would let us play at Legion Field for free. Imagine the media attention if we had 30k+ for an "exhibition" game next September.
When BSC did away with Div 1- some of my ex-players were told that they could not play for BSC and keep ship

They went to Division III, and the rules for D3 prohibit athletic scholarships. The do some Pell Grants and some "academic" partials, but not purely athletic.
12-24-2014 06:21 PM
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RE: Formation of football
(12-24-2014 06:18 PM)BandGrad Wrote:  If we have to go back to Club Football, why not use West Campus Field as our home stadium? It seats roughly the same as Birmingham Southern. Just put up temporary field goals.

This was my thought as well, particularly if we ever get the soccer complex upgrades done. But with Watts, I'm not sure where things stand with the soccer complex. Another option could be talking to Don Logan about using Regions Field, but don't know if he is done with UAB over the situation or not and also not sure if the logistics would work in terms of when the Baron's season is.

I definitely think club football is the way to go if we can't get football reinstated from the administrative level. Club football allows you to in essence say "forget you" to the administration and continue to support the sport we love even if not in the setting and circumstances we want. It also gives fans and students something that they can rally behind. It gives potential opportunity for band members, cheerleaders, etc. to participate in the football atmosphere as well. And as mentioned, it is the best (although certainly not ideal) way to keep many of the football traditions and infrastructure going in a way to allow for a smoother transition WHEN UAB football is restored. Even without IMG covering games, maybe that presents an opportunity for our communications department to get behind it and use BlazerRadio as a way to cover broadcasts and such. The other thing is that the UAB Football Foundation could maintain some visibility and have opportunity to do some fundraising as club football was continued.
12-24-2014 06:29 PM
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RE: Formation of football
The ruling leaders of BSC were so intent on having the only level of football the school might afford -- D3 -- that they willingly sacrificed their D1 programs in other sports to have it. Their baseball coach moved to UAB and their basketball coach retired. That is likely to be the same kind of thing that would happen if UAB made that same move beyond club level football, but did not go all the way to D1 very quickly (like USA did).

I have been told my memory of the beginnings at UAB is faulty, but I recall the original plan was to use the first years of D3 football to use money to build the needed facilities for moving up. The NCAA came in and said we must decide to move all sports to D3 (as BSC later did), give up football or move the program to D1 immediately. UAB chose the latter course and the facility issue was never completely resolved.
12-24-2014 06:51 PM
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RE: Formation of football
That is my memory too, and I also think that they had to go to D1 a year earlier in order to get in Conference USA. Like now, it was be D1 in football, or get out.
12-24-2014 07:09 PM
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RE: Formation of football
(12-24-2014 06:51 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  The ruling leaders of BSC were so intent on having the only level of football the school might afford -- D3 -- that they willingly sacrificed their D1 programs in other sports to have it. Their baseball coach moved to UAB and their basketball coach retired. That is likely to be the same kind of thing that would happen if UAB went d3
BSC was a small school tired to recruit 300 students a year, They got a new president who wished to expand the student body to 400 to 500 students a year. He built several new buildings and dorms. etc.
They thought moving existing sports to div 1 would attract students and hired Joe Dean Jr. to handle transition. they built it but not enough new students came. They spent their endowment on all of this. The school was in major financial trouble considered bankruptcy They closed several schools and departments and ended Div 1 sports.(about 2 million deficit) Unlike UAB a REAL financial crisis's.

Later got an idea from another small college. Most small liberal colleges have a hard time attracting guys. They started div 3 football. go to say MB and get a high academic kid not good enough for UAB but wants to play football with better academics.
It worked.
12-24-2014 10:23 PM
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RE: Formation of football
(12-24-2014 10:23 PM)uabbean Wrote:  
(12-24-2014 06:51 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  The ruling leaders of BSC were so intent on having the only level of football the school might afford -- D3 -- that they willingly sacrificed their D1 programs in other sports to have it. Their baseball coach moved to UAB and their basketball coach retired. That is likely to be the same kind of thing that would happen if UAB went d3
BSC was a small school tired to recruit 300 students a year, They got a new president who wished to expand the student body to 400 to 500 students a year. He built several new buildings and dorms. etc.
They thought moving existing sports to div 1 would attract students and hired Joe Dean Jr. to handle transition. they built it but not enough new students came. They spent their endowment on all of this. The school was in major financial trouble considered bankruptcy They closed several schools and departments and ended Div 1 sports.(about 2 million deficit) Unlike UAB a REAL financial crisis's.

Later got an idea from another small college. Most small liberal colleges have a hard time attracting guys. They started div 3 football. go to say MB and get a high academic kid not good enough for UAB but wants to play football with better academics.
It worked.

That, plus General Krulak showed up and demonstrated some real leadership. Oh, that we could have such a leader!
12-24-2014 11:03 PM
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He's available
12-24-2014 11:12 PM
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