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RE: 2014 Football Head Coaching changes
(12-05-2014 09:39 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 04:42 PM)At Ease Wrote:  Mike Riley (HC at Oregon St.) will replace Bo Pelini at Nebraska. Strange move.

He was making $1.5 million at OSU and will be making considerably more at Nebraska.

From "The Scoop":

The Scoop Wrote:HuskerExtra is reporting that Mike Riley’s base salary will be $2.7 million with $100,000 annual increases and will run through February of 2020. The total deal is worth $14.5 million. Riley was making $1.5 million per year at Oregon State.
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RE: 2014 Football Head Coaching changes
BTW, whatever happened to Reagan?? I never thought too much of him as an OC, but I thought his move to Kansas with the soon-to-be-fired Weis wasn't wise for his career. I assume he was swept out with Weis, yet he probably would still be Rice's OC for as long as Bailiff was loyal to him (which could be a very long time...).
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RE: 2014 Football Head Coaching changes
Saw that KU just hired David Beaty. Maybe he'll keep Reagan onboard.

(12-05-2014 01:49 PM)Bay Area Owl Wrote:  BTW, whatever happened to Reagan?? I never thought too much of him as an OC, but I thought his move to Kansas with the soon-to-be-fired Weis wasn't wise for his career. I assume he was swept out with Weis, yet he probably would still be Rice's OC for as long as Bailiff was loyal to him (which could be a very long time...).
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RE: 2014 Football Head Coaching changes
(12-05-2014 01:48 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 09:39 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 04:42 PM)At Ease Wrote:  Mike Riley (HC at Oregon St.) will replace Bo Pelini at Nebraska. Strange move.

He was making $1.5 million at OSU and will be making considerably more at Nebraska.

From "The Scoop":

The Scoop Wrote:HuskerExtra is reporting that Mike Riley’s base salary will be $2.7 million with $100,000 annual increases and will run through February of 2020. The total deal is worth $14.5 million. Riley was making $1.5 million per year at Oregon State.

Riley went to Corvallis High, his dad coached at Oregon State, and he rode his bike to work everyday for the last umpteen years from his parents' old house (IIRC from an ESPN GameDay piece). Assuming he's going to try and continue to recruit CA & OR, the travel and effort required for that just got way harder, and he'll be 62 when next football season starts. He's also had just one winning regular season in his last 5. As an Illini fan, I have no problem with this hire by Nebraska.
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(12-05-2014 12:22 PM)mrbig Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 12:09 PM)07owl Wrote:  David Beaty hired at Kansas

04-jawdrop (Good for him, I just thought Kansas would try to make another splashy hire, even after Weis failed)

Wonder if he calls some of his old co-workers at Rice.

Reagan?
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In the "you're kidding" dept.:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/unlv...s-unlv-job

Maloofs support June Jones for UNLV job

then again, Vegas is a Gamblin' town.
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RE: 2014 Football Head Coaching changes
(12-05-2014 01:49 PM)Bay Area Owl Wrote:  BTW, whatever happened to Reagan?? I never thought too much of him as an OC, but I thought his move to Kansas with the soon-to-be-fired Weis wasn't wise for his career. I assume he was swept out with Weis, yet he probably would still be Rice's OC for as long as Bailiff was loyal to him (which could be a very long time...).

He made sure to sign a multi-year deal (I think three-years) so even if he gets swept out by Weis firing, he still pockets between $500K-$1M which should be good to live on while finding next gig.

The KU hiring shows that they are focused on bringing Texas talent to Lawrence as the top priority. KU's talent is below par in the Big 12. Beaty is an amazing recruiter with really strong ties (esp in DFW area).
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(12-06-2014 03:56 AM)owl40 Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 01:49 PM)Bay Area Owl Wrote:  BTW, whatever happened to Reagan?? I never thought too much of him as an OC, but I thought his move to Kansas with the soon-to-be-fired Weis wasn't wise for his career. I assume he was swept out with Weis, yet he probably would still be Rice's OC for as long as Bailiff was loyal to him (which could be a very long time...).

He made sure to sign a multi-year deal (I think three-years) so even if he gets swept out by Weis firing, he still pockets between $500K-$1M which should be good to live on while finding next gig.

The KU hiring shows that they are focused on bringing Texas talent to Lawrence as the top priority. KU's talent is below par in the Big 12. Beaty is an amazing recruiter with really strong ties (esp in DFW area).

It will be interesting to see how it affects Bailiff's superior recruiting with Chad Morris at SMU and now Beaty at Kansas.
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(12-06-2014 05:10 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 03:56 AM)owl40 Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 01:49 PM)Bay Area Owl Wrote:  BTW, whatever happened to Reagan?? I never thought too much of him as an OC, but I thought his move to Kansas with the soon-to-be-fired Weis wasn't wise for his career. I assume he was swept out with Weis, yet he probably would still be Rice's OC for as long as Bailiff was loyal to him (which could be a very long time...).

He made sure to sign a multi-year deal (I think three-years) so even if he gets swept out by Weis firing, he still pockets between $500K-$1M which should be good to live on while finding next gig.

The KU hiring shows that they are focused on bringing Texas talent to Lawrence as the top priority. KU's talent is below par in the Big 12. Beaty is an amazing recruiter with really strong ties (esp in DFW area).

It will be interesting to see how it affects Bailiff's superior recruiting with Chad Morris at SMU and now Beaty at Kansas.

It just got significantly more competitive, especially in the DFW area.
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(12-05-2014 01:44 PM)Bay Area Owl Wrote:  David Beaty is clearly being hired by Kansas for his recruiting prowess, especially in the DFW area.

Has this strategy ever worked? I recall other head coaches who were star recruiters at good programs (which Beaty never has been AFAIK).

Ed Orgeron--Ole Miss (from USC)

Larry Porter--Memphis (From LSU)

When I think of great head coaches who were A+ recruiters, such as Mack Brown and Pete Carroll and Nick Saban, those guys are also very good football coaches.
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His coordinator hires will be important
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The big thing with Beaty, IMO, is that KU is alredy stretched thin financially due to poor coaching choices the last two hires and those fall outs. This gives them a chance to save some coin and start strengthening their football team through recruiting.

It's a safe hire because of that. There is little financial risk, they assume that they will at least get the athletes needed to make the games exciting and maybe pull off an upset here or there, and if Beaty hasn't proven that he can win enough games to satisfy the administration, it probably won't be expensive to fire him and bring in someone better. But at least at that point they will have a stable of high quality players that they feel they can use to win games.
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(12-06-2014 03:49 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  The big thing with Beaty, IMO, is that KU is alredy stretched thin financially due to poor coaching choices the last two hires and those fall outs. This gives them a chance to save some coin and start strengthening their football team through recruiting.
It's a safe hire because of that. There is little financial risk, they assume that they will at least get the athletes needed to make the games exciting and maybe pull off an upset here or there, and if Beaty hasn't proven that he can win enough games to satisfy the administration, it probably won't be expensive to fire him and bring in someone better. But at least at that point they will have a stable of high quality players that they feel they can use to win games.

Considering where they are financially, I think it's a great hire.
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(12-06-2014 02:20 PM)talon owl Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 05:10 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 03:56 AM)owl40 Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 01:49 PM)Bay Area Owl Wrote:  BTW, whatever happened to Reagan?? I never thought too much of him as an OC, but I thought his move to Kansas with the soon-to-be-fired Weis wasn't wise for his career. I assume he was swept out with Weis, yet he probably would still be Rice's OC for as long as Bailiff was loyal to him (which could be a very long time...).

He made sure to sign a multi-year deal (I think three-years) so even if he gets swept out by Weis firing, he still pockets between $500K-$1M which should be good to live on while finding next gig.

The KU hiring shows that they are focused on bringing Texas talent to Lawrence as the top priority. KU's talent is below par in the Big 12. Beaty is an amazing recruiter with really strong ties (esp in DFW area).

It will be interesting to see how it affects Bailiff's superior recruiting with Chad Morris at SMU and now Beaty at Kansas.

It just got significantly more competitive, especially in the DFW area.

I certainly hope Bailiff can maintain the one generally agreed upon area he excels in and continue to win Texas recruiting battles against these guys head to head.
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(12-06-2014 03:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Considering where they are financially, I think it's a great hire.

How can a Big 12 program with that level of MBB program be in tough financial straits.
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speaking of Kansas.

In another thread we were discussing the suitability of commenting on coaches being overweight (I think it reflects badly on those who do it, including the criticisms of Greenspan's weight, but not trying to bring that topic here)

Question for the board:

Would Mangino have been fired by Kansas if he were more trim in appearance?

He went 50-48 there in 8 years.

They have won 12 games in 5 years since dumping Mangino.
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(12-06-2014 02:20 PM)talon owl Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 05:10 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 03:56 AM)owl40 Wrote:  
(12-05-2014 01:49 PM)Bay Area Owl Wrote:  BTW, whatever happened to Reagan?? I never thought too much of him as an OC, but I thought his move to Kansas with the soon-to-be-fired Weis wasn't wise for his career. I assume he was swept out with Weis, yet he probably would still be Rice's OC for as long as Bailiff was loyal to him (which could be a very long time...).

He made sure to sign a multi-year deal (I think three-years) so even if he gets swept out by Weis firing, he still pockets between $500K-$1M which should be good to live on while finding next gig.

The KU hiring shows that they are focused on bringing Texas talent to Lawrence as the top priority. KU's talent is below par in the Big 12. Beaty is an amazing recruiter with really strong ties (esp in DFW area).

It will be interesting to see how it affects Bailiff's superior recruiting with Chad Morris at SMU and now Beaty at Kansas.

It just got significantly more competitive, especially in the DFW area.

With Morris yes. But Beaty has already been recruiting for A&M. In theory Morris is more worrisome as SMU recruits a similar type of student athlete.
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(12-06-2014 06:54 PM)MemOwl Wrote:  speaking of Kansas.

In another thread we were discussing the suitability of commenting on coaches being overweight (I think it reflects badly on those who do it, including the criticisms of Greenspan's weight, but not trying to bring that topic here)

Question for the board:

Would Mangino have been fired by Kansas if he were more trim in appearance?

He went 50-48 there in 8 years.

They have won 12 games in 5 years since dumping Mangino.

No. Mangino's firing had more to do with his abuse of players and off-field issues than his on-field performance.
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(12-06-2014 06:48 PM)MemOwl Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 03:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Considering where they are financially, I think it's a great hire.

How can a Big 12 program with that level of MBB program be in tough financial straits.

Poor hires. They have huge revenue.
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RE: 2014 Football Head Coaching changes
Footballscoop reporting that UH has fired Levine:

http://footballscoop.com/news/tony-levin...houston-2/

If true, we will see if firing a coach that has gone to multiple bowls hurts their list of possible coaching candidates.
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