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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Stephen F. Austin Game Thread***
(12-02-2014 09:33 PM)mrwigglesby21 Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:31 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:20 PM)mrwigglesby21 Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:19 PM)cwise Wrote:  I feel bad for Austin and Shaq, but the guards, to a man, are not nearly as good as a program like Memphis needs.

And Nick King deserves wing minutes as much as I do.

Does anyone know where to catch Pastner's post game press conference? Shiz... how many times I gotta ask... lil help fellows...

am600. Do u really not know where our games are broadcast? Yep, big fan.

Dave Ramsey is on bro

Probably, no I know, we are better off with Dave.
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Stephen F. Austin Game Thread***
(12-02-2014 09:08 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  I can't remember a worse loss.

SMU 09-10, SMU 10-11, Rice 10-11, UTEP 11-12 (this was on our own home floor no less) off the top of my head.
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(12-02-2014 09:14 PM)mapdude Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:06 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Are you SH*TTING me? Not only losing but losing BIG to SFA on our home court?

64-52 Final

Wow, I feel bad for the players. They deserve much better and talent wise they are much better than this.

Nope...you wrong. We got two good players. that is all.

What players are SF freakin A supposed to have?
12-02-2014 11:31 PM
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This is the first game in four games that we didn't start the game with a turnover. That's about all the "positive paul" i got in me right now.
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Stephen F. Austin Game Thread***
(12-02-2014 11:21 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:08 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  I can't remember a worse loss.

SMU 09-10, SMU 10-11, Rice 10-11, UTEP 11-12 (this was on our own home floor no less) off the top of my head.

We have a lot of fans who don't know much about basketball. SFA, this team, was undefeated for the whole year last season. SFA is a very good team this year, although not like 2013-2014. That being said, we need to beat those folks. But losing to CBU is much worse than this game. Onward.
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(12-02-2014 09:35 PM)SNF6 Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:33 PM)mrwigglesby21 Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:31 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:20 PM)mrwigglesby21 Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:19 PM)cwise Wrote:  I feel bad for Austin and Shaq, but the guards, to a man, are not nearly as good as a program like Memphis needs.

And Nick King deserves wing minutes as much as I do.

Does anyone know where to catch Pastner's post game press conference? Shiz... how many times I gotta ask... lil help fellows...

am600. Do u really not know where our games are broadcast? Yep, big fan.

Dave Ramsey is on bro

Probably, no I know, we are better off with Dave.

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Beating the teams like cbu and stephen f. austin at home is not a birthright !!! Those are good teams with good players and good coaches running good stuff.

-Josh Pastner
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(12-02-2014 09:33 PM)mrwigglesby21 Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:31 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:20 PM)mrwigglesby21 Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:19 PM)cwise Wrote:  I feel bad for Austin and Shaq, but the guards, to a man, are not nearly as good as a program like Memphis needs.

And Nick King deserves wing minutes as much as I do.

Does anyone know where to catch Pastner's post game press conference? Shiz... how many times I gotta ask... lil help fellows...

am600. Do u really not know where our games are broadcast? Yep, big fan.

Dave Ramsey is on bro

next thing you know, Tiger fans will be calling Dave Ramsey to ask him what's the best financial plan to buy out a contract
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Stephen F. Austin Game Thread***
(12-03-2014 12:01 AM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:33 PM)mrwigglesby21 Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:31 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:20 PM)mrwigglesby21 Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:19 PM)cwise Wrote:  I feel bad for Austin and Shaq, but the guards, to a man, are not nearly as good as a program like Memphis needs.

And Nick King deserves wing minutes as much as I do.

Does anyone know where to catch Pastner's post game press conference? Shiz... how many times I gotta ask... lil help fellows...

am600. Do u really not know where our games are broadcast? Yep, big fan.

Dave Ramsey is on bro

next thing you know, Tiger fans will be calling Dave Ramsey to ask him what's the best financial plan to buy out a contract

Now that's funny
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Stephen F. Austin Game Thread***
Im very anti-Pastner in terms of him as a coach, but Murray State at home in 1994, Louisiana Tech at home in 2005…. those were worse losses. SFA really is a decent team this year. Still sucks how low we've gotten
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Oh, another loss far worse than this… Arkansas State in the NIT first round to close out the Mid South Coliseum
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Stephen F. Austin Game Thread***
(12-03-2014 12:14 AM)alcalde Wrote:  Oh, another loss far worse than this… Arkansas State in the NIT first round to close out the Mid South Coliseum

I hear you, but we didn't have the supposed level of talent then that was capable of being displayed on the court tonight. There was no excuse for the game tonight. Only thing i've seen worse than the last few games here at memphis was our last sweet sixteen game in arizona.

People can say how good SFA is, but they aren't...at all. It's time for some to put excuses aside and place responsibility and blame squarely where it belongs. Memphis has suffered enough and only dark days are ahead of us unless we take responsibility.
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SFA was put on the schedule to be a win. We lost by 12 points at home to a mickey mouse team. Worse loss in a long time. Have you guys seen the schedule. Pastner is dumbing it down and we still can't beat these guys.
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(12-03-2014 12:20 AM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 12:14 AM)alcalde Wrote:  Oh, another loss far worse than this… Arkansas State in the NIT first round to close out the Mid South Coliseum

I hear you, but we didn't have the supposed level of talent then that was capable of being displayed on the court tonight. There was no excuse for the game tonight. Only thing i've seen worse than the last few games here at memphis was our last sweet sixteen game in arizona.

People can say how good SFA is, but they aren't...at all. It's time for some to put excuses aside and place responsibility and blame squarely where it belongs. Memphis has suffered enough and only dark days are ahead of us unless we take responsibility.

I agree with you that we are terribly coached and need to a change, but we had every bit the talent on that team that we do now. We had one of the 2 or 3 best PGs in college basketball in Elliot Perry. We had a top 50 recruit backup in Madlock, a top 25 recruit and defensive specialist Earnest Smith, top 50 recruit and ridiculous athlete in Billy Smith, top 20 recruit and McDonalds AA forward Anthony Douglas….and cast. THAT TEAM lost to freaking Arkansas State…in the postseason…at home.
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(12-03-2014 12:01 AM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:33 PM)mrwigglesby21 Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:31 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:20 PM)mrwigglesby21 Wrote:  
(12-02-2014 09:19 PM)cwise Wrote:  I feel bad for Austin and Shaq, but the guards, to a man, are not nearly as good as a program like Memphis needs.

And Nick King deserves wing minutes as much as I do.

Does anyone know where to catch Pastner's post game press conference? Shiz... how many times I gotta ask... lil help fellows...

am600. Do u really not know where our games are broadcast? Yep, big fan.

Dave Ramsey is on bro

next thing you know, Tiger fans will be calling Dave Ramsey to ask him what's the best financial plan to buy out a contract

Don't use credit to do it. stay on budget. Put cash in envelope. When it is gone, you are finished.
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SFA isn't horrible.

They lost to a 7-0 Northern Iowa Team (Who crushed Virginia Tech), Baylor and Xavier.

As decent as SFA was last season.

32-3

They lost 2 starters from that team.

1. Nikola Gajic (9.6 PPG, 5 RPG)
2. Desmond Haymon (14.5 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 2.9 APG)

Also a KEY bench player.

1. Deshaunt Walker (11.7 PPG)

They are definitely not the same team.

Even with all of that it is not the worst loss in our history.

So we can put that argument to rest.

It's not the loss so much that even gets me personally.

It's the way we have been losing these games. You can point the the back court, you can point to the front court, you can point to every single player on the court and blame them all you want.

The fact of the matter is, we are not good. We knew coming in this season we would find out 1 thing. If Josh could coach or if our struggles in the past were our players. Up to this point it is our Coach.

Do I blame Josh when the players aren't shooting well? NO!

Do I blame Josh for only having 1 decent threat from behind the 3 point line? YES!

Do I blame Josh when the players make a bad pass? NO!

Do I blame Josh for the repeated attempts by EVERYONE to pass the ball inside even WHEN IT'S NOT THERE? YES!

Take Indiana State for example. We shot 62% from three the first half. Woodson was 4-4 with 12 points. WHAT WERE OUR HALFTIME ADJUSTMENTS? We worked the ball inside 90% of the time, forced passes in there, turned the ball over quite a bit, and each time we forced it in successfully, our bigs were triple teamed and either took a bad shot or lost the ball. He ADMITTED before the season started that we have finesse guys. We don't have BIG bigs, we have finesse bigs. So why are we throwing it inside like Shaq or Nichols are gonna power their way through 2-3 opposing players and score consistently?

Last season he didn't trust the bigs, this season he doesn't trust the guards.

Nick King has regressed, Nichols looks to have regressed, Shaq is the same player and doesn't seem to have drive. Pookie and Markel had the opportunity to LEARN last season while sitting on the bench. Did they? It certainly doesn't look like it.

Every season we have been HORRIBLE at defending the 3 point line. It killed us last season, it killed us the season before and it's killing us now. Why does every single team we face get so many open shots. It doesn't matter who it is. Every team we play seems to have just as good or BETTER bigs at times...

Baylor hit 5 inbounds play three pointers. Indiana State had 3 opportunities to do the same thing and missed them. Why do our players every season seem to hope that the opposing player misses their open shot versus staying on them and playing good defense.

This is NOT their first season playing basketball. I learned how to play a zone when I was 5 years old. In the leagues I have played in since I still know how to play a zone and stay in good position. Will it always work 100% of the time? NO! However, it should work most of the time. Players are either gonna hit tough contested threes, long twos, get it inside after breaking down the defense or they are going to miss. Most games though, your opponent isn't going to shoot 60% from three point range and the inside game never opens up for them. Being in position and keeping your head in the game is not that hard. If they hit a shot it sucks but it happens. I'd much rather watch our players get a three knocked down in their face then a wide open one.

We just can't seem to figure it out. We haven't been able to figure it out for several seasons. We have no identity, we have no drive, we never play with heart, the intensity isn't their for 40 minutes, our players never leave it all on the floor and so on..

We are never freaking motivated.

Looking back at the past few seasons, we have had either average seasons or mediocre seasons. For a program that puts as much into basketball as we do it's unacceptable 1-2 seasons sure, but EVERY SEASON? All you 1950's-2000 people can take your stats and tell them to someone else cause 90% of the people here aren't listening that that crap anymore.

We know for a FACT what we should be getting out of our program for what we have at our disposal and what we put into the program. You can be happy with that on your own. Enjoy that to the fullest. Don't let us people that want to win break your spirit, just don't be offended when we expect more and post about it.

Also, for whatever reason some of you post crap about Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and about 500 coaches. We don't give a crap about those stats either. No one cares what Coach K did at Army his first 5 seasons, or what he did at Duke his first 5 seasons. We care about what MEMPHIS is doing. Pump your chest all you want to about Joshes record and his 5 top 25 wins that our players pulled off last season. The PLAYERS pull that off, even in those games it was very apparent the game plan was lacking.

We look absolutely terrible. It's not TALENT or SKILL, it's not 10 NEW guys. It's coaching, motivation, and a lack of a TRUE Identity that is screwing this program over.

Josh recruits who he thinks are the best players. He does not recruit to a system. If you are recruiting players who are built for man to man, they won't be as successful when they play zone. If you are recruiting players who are best suited for a zone, they won't be as successful in the man to man. If you recruit guards who are athletic but can't pass well, shoot the ball, or play defense WHY ARE YOU RECRUITING THEM?

If you recruit BIGS who are finesse and not overpowering. WHY are you trying to pass the ball inside so much expecting them to go bang and overpower opposing players. If they are built to RUN, why are we NOT running.

We have a big jumbled mess is what we have. We have 1-2 players all built for different things and that doesn't make a damn team....

Why is he hiring is friends over qualified assistant coaches who could help him learn, help develop the team and so on. Why does he not LISTEN to the coaches he has hired who have come here with 17 years of HEAD COACHING experience?

He is hard headed, prideful and that is killing him.

Yes, his record looks good. Now go show me 30 wins (less than 25%) that are worth a damn.

We could be much better than we are. We could have been much better than we were in the past. In college basketball, you can't be a "feel" guy. Basketball is like anything else. You win with a SYSTEM, good chemistry, motivation and a TEAM full of PLAYERS built for your SYSTEM or developed to fit your SYSTEM.

We're better than this.

2-3 on the season. With blowout losses to Wichita State, Baylor and SFA is pathetic.

As I have stated before I would RATHER have a GREAT Josh Pastner than anyone else, because I love what he stands for. However, if he's not gonna get the job done my loyalty is to MEMPHIS and not Pastner all day long.

There is still time to fix this, but he's gotta do a better job. If he can't at this point, with what resources this program has available to it, we can get a new coach. No one wanted to follow Cal. Following the Josh Pastner era is not nearly as intimidating..
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Very bad loss..very telling
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Lotsa dumb in this thread. Basketball iq.

Lol
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(03-20-2016 03:49 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Lotsa dumb in this thread. Basketball iq.

Lol

Your post is the culmination of it.

Quit trying to polish a turd
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