(12-04-2014 10:05 AM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:48 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:44 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

The loss vs Utah St had people questioning if the season had been a success, a conversation that wouldn't have taken place after an Iowa loss.

These boards were on suicide watch after the Utah St loss. A game shouldn't be judged solely on how big the win would be, it should be also how big the loss would be. It goes both ways.

I most likely led the pack on suicide watch with regards to the loss against Utah State, living in Utah all I heard was "told you, you guys suck".... Still stings

Agree that has to be a pain for you. Though its so nice not to hear crap from Iowa fans for the next few years around here.

(12-04-2014 10:03 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:48 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:44 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

The loss vs Utah St had people questioning if the season had been a success, a conversation that wouldn't have taken place after an Iowa loss.

These boards were on suicide watch after the Utah St loss. A game shouldn't be judged solely on how big the win would be, it should be also how big the loss would be. It goes both ways.

The thought that NIU being discussed as one of the top 2 non-AQ teams fighting for a BCS spot the ENTIRE year by the press is trumped by a bowl loss on the West coast to the #2 MWC team who plays in that stadium every other year is just nuts.

This board is on suicide watch during every game!

An Iowa loss would have been like an Arkansas/Central Michigan mind state in that you accept it and focus on the next game and know there's still a lot to play for. There was none of that with Utah St.

It's the timing of the game that makes it big. The end of the year. The last game for 8 months. The last game of Lynch/Ward etc. career. A chance to end the season on a high note. Trying to send the seniors out with a win. Lynch's final chance for a bowl win. There's a finality about it that you don't get from the opening game of the season. The sulking lasted for months.

I can totally see how people have Iowa #3 on this hypothetical list, I get it. It's personal preference so no one is right or wrong but I feel we're forgetting how awful we all felt after Utah St.

The Utah St game was about as irrelevant as a game as it gets, and NIU played like it. It was impossible for anyone, players especially, to get up for that game.

It was like losing the Super Bowl and playing an exhibition game the week after.

(12-04-2014 10:13 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 10:03 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:48 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:44 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

The loss vs Utah St had people questioning if the season had been a success, a conversation that wouldn't have taken place after an Iowa loss.

These boards were on suicide watch after the Utah St loss. A game shouldn't be judged solely on how big the win would be, it should be also how big the loss would be. It goes both ways.

The thought that NIU being discussed as one of the top 2 non-AQ teams fighting for a BCS spot the ENTIRE year by the press is trumped by a bowl loss on the West coast to the #2 MWC team who plays in that stadium every other year is just nuts.

This board is on suicide watch during every game!

An Iowa loss would have been like an Arkansas/Central Michigan mind state in that you accept it and focus on the next game and know there's still a lot to play for. There was none of that with Utah St.

It's the timing of the game that makes it big. The end of the year. The last game for 8 months. The last game of Lynch/Ward etc. career. A chance to end the season on a high note. Trying to send the seniors out with a win. Lynch's final chance for a bowl win. There's a finality about it that you don't get from the opening game of the season. The sulking lasted for months.

I can totally see how people have Iowa #3 on this hypothetical list, I get it. It's personal preference so no one is right or wrong but I feel we're forgetting how awful we all felt after Utah St.

Win the Utah St game and the only people that really think anything about it are Huskie and Utah St fans.

Win the Iowa game and the nation takes a glance at NIU THEN the media talks about us for the rest of the season.



Fine then lets just play some #5 good but not great Sun Belt team in a bowl and win that game so we can feel good about closing out the season with a win over a team that no one else in our area cares about.

(12-04-2014 10:08 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 10:05 AM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:48 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:44 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

The loss vs Utah St had people questioning if the season had been a success, a conversation that wouldn't have taken place after an Iowa loss.

These boards were on suicide watch after the Utah St loss. A game shouldn't be judged solely on how big the win would be, it should be also how big the loss would be. It goes both ways.

I most likely led the pack on suicide watch with regards to the loss against Utah State, living in Utah all I heard was "told you, you guys suck".... Still stings

Agree that has to be a pain for you. Though its so nice not to hear crap from Iowa fans for the next few years around here.

A "kind of friend" owns a Can-Am dealership and is the biggest Utah State fan, kept riding my ass about the loss, and not in a classy way. I had two snow machines on order and told him to suck it and sell them to an Aggie. I have had Aggie flags put in my yard, and parents kids that come over to our house purposely over dressing in Aggie swag. I might have to bury a body soon!!!! Utah fans are like Buckeye fans, but less football educated. I would like to play Utah in Boise, we might have a decent shot to knock them off. Utah would fill the stadium in Boise, so if this happens please everyone, travel to this game. Thinking about moving to Idaho full time lol.

(12-04-2014 10:18 AM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  A "kind of friend" owns a Can-Am dealership and is the biggest Utah State fan, kept riding my ass about the loss, and not in a classy way. I had two snow machines on order and told him to suck it and sell them to an Aggie. I have had Aggie flags put in my yard, and parents kids that come over to our house purposely over dressing in Aggie swag. I might have to bury a body soon!!!! Utah fans are like Buckeye fans, but less football educated. I would like to play Utah in Boise, we might have a decent shot to knock them off. Utah would fill the stadium in Boise, so if this happens please everyone, travel to this game. Thinking about moving to Idaho full time lol.

Yes Utah or Washington are possibilities for the Potato bowl if Boise St goes to the Access Bowl. That would be a huge opportunity for us if that matchup could happen but again a tough game.

(12-04-2014 10:17 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 10:13 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 10:03 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:48 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:44 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

The loss vs Utah St had people questioning if the season had been a success, a conversation that wouldn't have taken place after an Iowa loss.

These boards were on suicide watch after the Utah St loss. A game shouldn't be judged solely on how big the win would be, it should be also how big the loss would be. It goes both ways.

The thought that NIU being discussed as one of the top 2 non-AQ teams fighting for a BCS spot the ENTIRE year by the press is trumped by a bowl loss on the West coast to the #2 MWC team who plays in that stadium every other year is just nuts.

This board is on suicide watch during every game!

An Iowa loss would have been like an Arkansas/Central Michigan mind state in that you accept it and focus on the next game and know there's still a lot to play for. There was none of that with Utah St.

It's the timing of the game that makes it big. The end of the year. The last game for 8 months. The last game of Lynch/Ward etc. career. A chance to end the season on a high note. Trying to send the seniors out with a win. Lynch's final chance for a bowl win. There's a finality about it that you don't get from the opening game of the season. The sulking lasted for months.

I can totally see how people have Iowa #3 on this hypothetical list, I get it. It's personal preference so no one is right or wrong but I feel we're forgetting how awful we all felt after Utah St.

Win the Utah St game and the only people that really think anything about it are Huskie and Utah St fans.

Win the Iowa game and the nation takes a glance at NIU THEN the media talks about us for the rest of the season.



Fine then lets just play some #5 good but not great Sun Belt team in a bowl and win that game so we can feel good about closing out the season with a win over a team that no one else in our area cares about.

I agree the Utah St win would have been big to Huskie fans, but I couldn't give a damn what the national media thought about it.

If we're answering this question from a national media perspective, then sure it's Iowa, but we're not, we're answering this as individuals. The national media didn't even talk much about the Iowa win. People hardly took notice. It was a tiny blip on the radar. I do remember a mid-season article from the Sun-Times about NIU as a potential BCS buster but that's it, let's not pretend like people in the national media even cared about that game.

(12-04-2014 10:20 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 10:18 AM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  A "kind of friend" owns a Can-Am dealership and is the biggest Utah State fan, kept riding my ass about the loss, and not in a classy way. I had two snow machines on order and told him to suck it and sell them to an Aggie. I have had Aggie flags put in my yard, and parents kids that come over to our house purposely over dressing in Aggie swag. I might have to bury a body soon!!!! Utah fans are like Buckeye fans, but less football educated. I would like to play Utah in Boise, we might have a decent shot to knock them off. Utah would fill the stadium in Boise, so if this happens please everyone, travel to this game. Thinking about moving to Idaho full time lol.

Yes Utah or Washington are possibilities for the Potato bowl if Boise St goes to the Access Bowl. That would be a huge opportunity for us if that matchup could happen but again a tough game.

We could stop Utah's O, we could, they struggle at the QB, but if their D shows up they could really stop us too. Could come down to FG's. If this game happens, I will tow the trailer up and throw a huge tailgate BBQ for all Huskies, with heaters out, Utah/Idaho potato salad, and very cold Utah beer which is very close to water...:pbjtime:

(12-04-2014 08:17 AM)DogTracks Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 03:12 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 08:59 PM)scottiep12 Wrote:  There is a weird irony in this one...I have lower expectations of this team vs any previous version of the Huskies in Detroit yet I couldn't be more confident that we will win.

I haven't bet on a game after the 2010 debacle...until now. So we are probably doomed.

Seriously tho...it's less about us vs having no confidence in BG. They just aren't that good. Plus add in the revenge factor and this team's moxy and I don't even think a letdown is an option.

I agree with everything your wrote. My fear, however, is Coach Carey has yet to prove he and his staff can properly prepare the team to win a big game. Orange Bowl, MACC, Poinsettia Bowl, Arkansas game.

Love how your list of big games conveniently includes only losses. Completely bypassing Iowa, 2 Toledo games, WMU, and Northwestern and including that exhibition game in San Diego.

Well done. Way to make your reality fit your narrative.

Hi Doggie Tracks, you are right - I should have listed the Iowa game, on the road, as winning a big game. So he is 1-4 in big games.

Beating WMU is a big win? That's what the most dominant mid major team in a crap conference is supposed to do. Same with all regular season MAC victories. They are nice wins, but no one should consider them "big" wins.

Wouldn't you say it's fair, Doggie, that a big win should be a game that elicits national attention, such as winning a bowl game, a conference championship, or beating a team from the SEC?

The future head coach of Indiana has shown an inability to do that during his tenure in DeKalb.

Quote:Beating WMU is a big win?

Yes. It's not a pansy-win from mid-season on, even for a P5. NIU is in rebuilding mode -- beating the best of the MAC (Toledo, WMU) is a big deal. Beating 8-4 teams is a bigger deal than beating 6-6 teams.

Beating a good 8-4 MAC team who's showed great potential on the field in their games is a bigger deal than most 5-7 P5 teams, and about on the same level as a joe-schmo 6-6 P5 team.

(12-04-2014 04:05 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:Beating WMU is a big win?

Yes. It's not a pansy-win from mid-season on, even for a P5. NIU is in rebuilding mode -- beating the best of the MAC (Toledo, WMU) is a big deal. Beating 8-4 teams is a bigger deal than beating 6-6 teams.

Beating a good 8-4 MAC team who's showed great potential on the field in their games is a bigger deal than most 5-7 P5 teams, and about on the same level as a joe-schmo 6-6 P5 team.

Context, Todd. I don't mean to disparage what P.J. has done with the Bronco program, but beating a directional school in a regular season game doesn't generate a blip on the radar nationally.

Quote:Context, Todd. I don't mean to disparage what P.J. has done with the Bronco program, but beating a directional school in a regular season game doesn't generate a blip on the radar nationally.

No, it's not a big win. Neither is CMU beating Purdue this year. Beating a bowl-team though, marks up the stats.

If they beat Arkansas (a 6-6 SEC, not B1G) -- THAT would have, yes. Would have been a "big win" -- not a Boise "big win" like if they would have beat Ole Miss, but still. Would have got Recognition.

I was referring to amping up one's stats for the Committee. The Committee's going to know the difference between beating 2 8-4 MAC teams VS beating a 5-7 B1G team.

Memphis didn't beat any P5 team. They gave Miss State a run for their money for 3Q like Boise did to Ole Miss -- but like Boise, got STOMPED 4th Q -- thus the game, instead of being a bit behind.

Beat an 8-4 P5 team or a knowingly good SEC team -- then it will make them better known. Seeing how NIU *performed* in the season though is a big deal. If they stomped MAC teams like Marshall did (and only barely losing to CMU, say, due to some injuries) -- it'd be a no-brainer the 'ol NIU was there, and they'd be in the drivers seat if Boise lost.

The good thing is, NO team has a "big win" to outdo the other for 2nd place G5 if Boise loses. But for the future, NIU has G5s lined up -- so they should be good. They just have to win 'em... or afford 1 loss to one of those REAL big ones while beating the rest and Not having close games against EMU, Kent, UNLV, etc.

If Carey plays to win we will win. If plays to no lose with 50+ FG we will lose period. Wont be surprised if an AD from somewhere is at the marroit right now with 1,000,000 in a suitcase for after a win.

Go Huskies lets get some revenge like we did in 04.

(12-04-2014 06:35 PM)GOONSQUAD41 Wrote:  Wont be surprised if an AD from somewhere is at the marroit right now with 1,000,000 in a suitcase for after a win.

Which school would have an AD there? The openings right now are Michigan, UNLV, Tulsa, Colorado State and Oregon State.

(12-04-2014 06:39 PM)armour248 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 06:35 PM)GOONSQUAD41 Wrote:  Wont be surprised if an AD from somewhere is at the marroit right now with 1,000,000 in a suitcase for after a win.

Which school would have an AD there? The openings right now are Michigan, UNLV, Tulsa, Colorado State and Oregon State.

(12-04-2014 10:08 AM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:44 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

The casual NIU fan takes much much much more pride in the win over Iowa or NU over a MACC.

What the hell is a "casual" fan?

This term is used all the time here. Describe one.

(12-04-2014 08:21 PM)DoubleHuskie84 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 10:08 AM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:44 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

The casual NIU fan takes much much much more pride in the win over Iowa or NU over a MACC.

What the hell is a "casual" fan?

This term is used all the time here. Describe one.

My girlfriend. She's heard of Iowa / Northwestern, but knows very little about MAC schools.

(12-04-2014 08:21 PM)DoubleHuskie84 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 10:08 AM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:44 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

The casual NIU fan takes much much much more pride in the win over Iowa or NU over a MACC.

What the hell is a "casual" fan?

This term is used all the time here. Describe one.

People not on this board, people who couldnt name half the MAC teams, doesnt know what state BGSU is in.