The unofficial online home for fans of the UAB Blazers. Part of Collegiate Sports Nation (CSN).

(11-30-2014 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:06 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  This is the dumbest thread I have ever read in my entire life.

Someone please start a new column, and put MUT's lone NO vote in it please.

Just because something is popular doesn't make it right.

Splitting UAB into two would be a thousand times more disastrous than any move to stop football, or even all athletics. You guys get lathered up so quick and don't even think about the words spewing from your keyboards sometimes.

This is about control. You have to see that.

(11-30-2014 10:30 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:06 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  This is the dumbest thread I have ever read in my entire life.

Someone please start a new column, and put MUT's lone NO vote in it please.

Just because something is popular doesn't make it right.

Splitting UAB into two would be a thousand times more disastrous than any move to stop football, or even all athletics. You guys get lathered up so quick and don't even think about the words spewing from your keyboards sometimes.

This is about control. You have to see that.

Yes, I do. But UAB is more than football, and it is more than just the undergraduate side of campus. It's the entire thing. The undergraduate side rose up because of the SOM and the SOM benefits immensely from the undergraduate side. If you break up UAB into actually separate professional schools and a traditional non-doctoral 4 year college, then you will be condemning the undergraduate side to a very quick death. There are better and more effective ways to get what you seek (better Board of Trustees governance/elections, separate Boards of Trustees, etc) that maintain UAB as the entity it is today.

(11-30-2014 10:44 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:30 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:06 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  This is the dumbest thread I have ever read in my entire life.

Someone please start a new column, and put MUT's lone NO vote in it please.

Just because something is popular doesn't make it right.

Splitting UAB into two would be a thousand times more disastrous than any move to stop football, or even all athletics. You guys get lathered up so quick and don't even think about the words spewing from your keyboards sometimes.

This is about control. You have to see that.

Yes, I do. But UAB is more than football, and it is more than just the undergraduate side of campus. It's the entire thing. The undergraduate side rose up because of the SOM and the SOM benefits immensely from the undergraduate side. If you break up UAB into actually separate professional schools and a traditional non-doctoral 4 year college, then you will be condemning the undergraduate side to a very quick death. There are better and more effective ways to get what you seek (better Board of Trustees governance/elections, separate Boards of Trustees, etc) that maintain UAB as the entity it is today.

+1

Doesnt matter what we think or want. This is about abuse of power, a fine ole Alabama tradition. UAB fans can talk all we want, but in the end its just talk on a message board. We are tilting windmills.

(11-30-2014 10:44 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:30 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:06 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  This is the dumbest thread I have ever read in my entire life.

Someone please start a new column, and put MUT's lone NO vote in it please.

Just because something is popular doesn't make it right.

Splitting UAB into two would be a thousand times more disastrous than any move to stop football, or even all athletics. You guys get lathered up so quick and don't even think about the words spewing from your keyboards sometimes.

This is about control. You have to see that.

Yes, I do. But UAB is more than football, and it is more than just the undergraduate side of campus. It's the entire thing. The undergraduate side rose up because of the SOM and the SOM benefits immensely from the undergraduate side. If you break up UAB into actually separate professional schools and a traditional non-doctoral 4 year college, then you will be condemning the undergraduate side to a very quick death. There are better and more effective ways to get what you seek (better Board of Trustees governance/elections, separate Boards of Trustees, etc) that maintain UAB as the entity it is today.

It football goes down like this then it is time for a split. I don't disagree with your points but how can you put trust in a board who's main focus is to ensure that one campus is favored over all.

(11-30-2014 10:44 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:30 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:06 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  This is the dumbest thread I have ever read in my entire life.

Someone please start a new column, and put MUT's lone NO vote in it please.

Just because something is popular doesn't make it right.

Splitting UAB into two would be a thousand times more disastrous than any move to stop football, or even all athletics. You guys get lathered up so quick and don't even think about the words spewing from your keyboards sometimes.

This is about control. You have to see that.

Yes, I do. But UAB is more than football, and it is more than just the undergraduate side of campus. It's the entire thing. The undergraduate side rose up because of the SOM and the SOM benefits immensely from the undergraduate side. If you break up UAB into actually separate professional schools and a traditional non-doctoral 4 year college, then you will be condemning the undergraduate side to a very quick death. There are better and more effective ways to get what you seek (better Board of Trustees governance/elections, separate Boards of Trustees, etc) that maintain UAB as the entity it is today.

There are doctoral programs in the schools listed. So the broken off part would be a full university. I don't think this would be anyones first choice, but Birmingham needs a university that can govern itself. This might be only why to achieve that goal.

(11-30-2014 10:47 PM)kdblazer Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:44 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:30 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Someone please start a new column, and put MUT's lone NO vote in it please.

Just because something is popular doesn't make it right.

Splitting UAB into two would be a thousand times more disastrous than any move to stop football, or even all athletics. You guys get lathered up so quick and don't even think about the words spewing from your keyboards sometimes.

This is about control. You have to see that.

Yes, I do. But UAB is more than football, and it is more than just the undergraduate side of campus. It's the entire thing. The undergraduate side rose up because of the SOM and the SOM benefits immensely from the undergraduate side. If you break up UAB into actually separate professional schools and a traditional non-doctoral 4 year college, then you will be condemning the undergraduate side to a very quick death. There are better and more effective ways to get what you seek (better Board of Trustees governance/elections, separate Boards of Trustees, etc) that maintain UAB as the entity it is today.

It football goes down like this then it is time for a split. I don't disagree with your points but how can you put trust in a board who's main focus is to ensure that one campus is favored over all.

But what you're advocating is to shut down UAB, because that is what would happen. Advocate change that keeps UAB what it is, not knee-jerk reactions without any thought as to the consequences.

I said it years ago. I'll say it again today.

UAB. The University At Birmingham.

(11-30-2014 10:53 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:47 PM)kdblazer Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:44 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:30 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Just because something is popular doesn't make it right.

Splitting UAB into two would be a thousand times more disastrous than any move to stop football, or even all athletics. You guys get lathered up so quick and don't even think about the words spewing from your keyboards sometimes.

This is about control. You have to see that.

Yes, I do. But UAB is more than football, and it is more than just the undergraduate side of campus. It's the entire thing. The undergraduate side rose up because of the SOM and the SOM benefits immensely from the undergraduate side. If you break up UAB into actually separate professional schools and a traditional non-doctoral 4 year college, then you will be condemning the undergraduate side to a very quick death. There are better and more effective ways to get what you seek (better Board of Trustees governance/elections, separate Boards of Trustees, etc) that maintain UAB as the entity it is today.

It football goes down like this then it is time for a split. I don't disagree with your points but how can you put trust in a board who's main focus is to ensure that one campus is favored over all.

But what you're advocating is to shut down UAB, because that is what would happen. Advocate change that keeps UAB what it is, not knee-jerk reactions without any thought as to the consequences.

So you equate our current situation and response to a knee jerk reaction ??!!!

I think we are best off to continue to agree that we consistently disagree.

(11-30-2014 10:46 PM)ranger1386b Wrote:  Doesnt matter what we think or want. This is about abuse of power, a fine ole Alabama tradition. UAB fans can talk all we want, but in the end its just talk on a message board. We are tilting windmills.

Like hell it doesn't. Gene Bartow taught us better than that.

And as for those windmills: Don Quixote won. Dulcinea was a tavern whore, Sancho Panza a moronic swineherd and Rosinante a broken-down plow horse. But Don Quixote made them believe in themselves, made them believe they were a lady, a squire, a steed.

Stay curled up on the floor and feel sorry for yourself. I will ride with Quixote and Bartow until I no longer draw breath. And then my daughter, the proud daughter of a Golden Girl, will take my place. This fight does not end.

We fight.

(11-30-2014 10:53 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:47 PM)kdblazer Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:44 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:30 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Just because something is popular doesn't make it right.

Splitting UAB into two would be a thousand times more disastrous than any move to stop football, or even all athletics. You guys get lathered up so quick and don't even think about the words spewing from your keyboards sometimes.

This is about control. You have to see that.

Yes, I do. But UAB is more than football, and it is more than just the undergraduate side of campus. It's the entire thing. The undergraduate side rose up because of the SOM and the SOM benefits immensely from the undergraduate side. If you break up UAB into actually separate professional schools and a traditional non-doctoral 4 year college, then you will be condemning the undergraduate side to a very quick death. There are better and more effective ways to get what you seek (better Board of Trustees governance/elections, separate Boards of Trustees, etc) that maintain UAB as the entity it is today.

It football goes down like this then it is time for a split. I don't disagree with your points but how can you put trust in a board who's main focus is to ensure that one campus is favored over all.

But what you're advocating is to shut down UAB, because that is what would happen. Advocate change that keeps UAB what it is, not knee-jerk reactions without any thought as to the consequences.

It's not a knee jerk reaction. Obviously I would love for the university to flourish but there's little trust in the system. If we're gonna fall... fall fighting because it's obvious the BOT doesn't have UAB's best interest at heart. It's more than football it's about charting a course for the university, having vision, and creating a quality learning environment for the students at UAB. The BOT has done great job at that in Tuscaloosa, yet here in Birmingham UAB is far behind in those amenities.

One caution is to remember that those who would do the splitting would be more likely to favor whatever the system BOT wants to do. If the BOT wants everything medical, chances are they would get what they want and "UAB" would get whatever is left over. Then UAB, however it is comprised, would have to fight in Montgomery for funding every year on its own. If you want to know how that might go, look at how helpful the legislature has been to the financial plight of Jeffco (problems they created) since 1999.

We don't need to split. We we need, ne, demand is a Board of Trustees who demonstrates support for all three of its ******* campuses.

(11-30-2014 11:02 PM)kdblazer Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:53 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:47 PM)kdblazer Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:44 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:30 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  This is about control. You have to see that.

Yes, I do. But UAB is more than football, and it is more than just the undergraduate side of campus. It's the entire thing. The undergraduate side rose up because of the SOM and the SOM benefits immensely from the undergraduate side. If you break up UAB into actually separate professional schools and a traditional non-doctoral 4 year college, then you will be condemning the undergraduate side to a very quick death. There are better and more effective ways to get what you seek (better Board of Trustees governance/elections, separate Boards of Trustees, etc) that maintain UAB as the entity it is today.

It football goes down like this then it is time for a split. I don't disagree with your points but how can you put trust in a board who's main focus is to ensure that one campus is favored over all.

But what you're advocating is to shut down UAB, because that is what would happen. Advocate change that keeps UAB what it is, not knee-jerk reactions without any thought as to the consequences.

It's not a knee jerk reaction. Obviously I would love for the university to flourish but there's little trust in the system. If we're gonna fall... fall fighting because it's obvious the BOT doesn't have UAB's best interest at heart. It's more than football it's about charting a course for the university, having vision, and creating a quality learning environment for the students at UAB. The BOT has done great job at that in Tuscaloosa, yet here in Birmingham UAB is far behind in those amenities.

Have you done any research into what this proposal would actually mean? If not, then yes it is a knee jerk reaction.

Being pissed off isn't the knee jerk reaction. Wanting change isn't the knee jerk reaction. Wanting to split off the money making part of the university and keep the parts that get a subsidy from it IS a knee jerk reaction because you have no idea what it would mean (tip: it would mean closing it down)

(11-30-2014 10:45 PM)biglizard Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:44 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:30 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Someone please start a new column, and put MUT's lone NO vote in it please.

Just because something is popular doesn't make it right.

Splitting UAB into two would be a thousand times more disastrous than any move to stop football, or even all athletics. You guys get lathered up so quick and don't even think about the words spewing from your keyboards sometimes.

This is about control. You have to see that.

Yes, I do. But UAB is more than football, and it is more than just the undergraduate side of campus. It's the entire thing. The undergraduate side rose up because of the SOM and the SOM benefits immensely from the undergraduate side. If you break up UAB into actually separate professional schools and a traditional non-doctoral 4 year college, then you will be condemning the undergraduate side to a very quick death. There are better and more effective ways to get what you seek (better Board of Trustees governance/elections, separate Boards of Trustees, etc) that maintain UAB as the entity it is today.

+1

+2

very very dumb idea of the year. Sounds like what a Bammer or Aubie sidewalk football fan would come with.

Without the SOM and its research dollars - UAB would not be to afford its current athletics. We might well end up with NOTHING but being a division 2 UAH clone.