http://www.si.com/college-football/2014/...c-director

Just posted over on their board. It's disgusting that the Tuscaloosa campus would flex its financial muscles to pull off such a despicable act. UAB is arguably the better academic campus. They deserve more funding than Tuscaloosa.

Read about it a few day's ago. The rich get richer.

Just a user comment on another forum but sound familiar?

Quote:They play in a city (Birmingham) where EVERYONE is a fan of either Bama or Auburn, but NOBODY cares about them. UAB is a total commuter school with no “college” feel at all…..just a concrete jungle. They play in Legion Field, a terribly dilapidated stadium in a VERY sketchy part of town (that’s putting it nicely).

Read the article.

One thing folks need to remember:

The answers one gets is dependent on the questions one asks.

They (the Alabama system) got the answers they wanted in their review.

Crazy, but I looked at the C-USA standings. They have 7 schools (including UAB) in the east and 6 in the west.

Now it will be 6 - 6.

Not to be selfish, but given that our dl coach was there before this past season, I wonder if any of the players will end up here? I can't imagine that would have to sit a year if the program shut down? It IS the NCAA, though.

(12-02-2014 11:20 PM)mshumaker Wrote:  Not to be selfish, but given that our dl coach was there before this past season, I wonder if any of the players will end up here? I can't imagine that would have to sit a year if the program shut down? It IS the NCAA, though.

No sit out at all. Happy recruiting coaches.

(12-02-2014 11:20 PM)mshumaker Wrote:  Not to be selfish, but given that our dl coach was there before this past season, I wonder if any of the players will end up here? I can't imagine that would have to sit a year if the program shut down? It IS the NCAA, though.

I thought the same thing. So a pair of DBs and a safety who could help...

(12-03-2014 10:33 AM)masttg Wrote:  

(12-02-2014 11:20 PM)mshumaker Wrote:  Not to be selfish, but given that our dl coach was there before this past season, I wonder if any of the players will end up here? I can't imagine that would have to sit a year if the program shut down? It IS the NCAA, though.

I thought the same thing. So a pair of DBs and a safety who could help...

Or a dozen non-senior transfers. Maybe CC can learn something from Murphy.

(11-30-2014 08:41 PM)All_EMU Wrote:  http://www.si.com/college-football/2014/...c-director

Interesting that they decided that they needed to fire the AD.

Guess if FB is going the guy who manages it had to go as well.

I still say this is rotten...

As an EMU alum/fan, this is sobering.

(12-03-2014 02:58 PM)holybovine Wrote:  As an EMU alum/fan, this is sobering.

I'm going to go personal probably not fair on a public forum but the larger point is worth making.

My parents did not have a good marriage. When my mother was found to have colon cancer, had surgery and died a week later the grief, remorse, etc. etc. for my father was unbelievably great.

Grief and loss can occur when UAB shutters their FB program.

Sometimes you only REALLY appreciate something when it is taken away from you. It could be a limb in war, a job, a spouse, etc.

The EMU football family, beside the players, coaches, athletic staff, etc. etc. isn't what it should be, but if EMU decided to give up football the wailing and gnashing of teeth would be great.

I feel for the players. This is their career. Suddenly their careers lose a lot of meaning. UAB FB will be a footnote in a few years. Those 6 wins today look like a footnote, not a mark of achievement.

(12-03-2014 02:58 PM)holybovine Wrote:  As an EMU alum/fan, this is sobering.

I'm a Jim Valvano believer.

You quit when you are on your death bed, not before.

And most folks on their death beds know that the time is at hand.

EMU FB isn't on its death bed...

Didn't the Old Testament Jews spend 40 years in the desert?

Sometimes you just persist and persist...

Didn't President Kennedy announcing the space program indicate we weren't doing it because it will be easy but because it will be hard.

EMU football has been persisting for a really long time. At some point you just have to win and build a fanbase. They've done neither and they've had 20 years or more to do so. Are they going to win next year? Nope. They year after? No...what if we get to 25-30 years without a winning record? How ridiculous will the university look? How much money will be wasted?

If I thought that there was even a small chance that somehow EMU football could win semi-consistently, I'd say persist! Guys, it ain't gonna happen. Ironically, all of us would be giddy and optimistic if we had UAB'S season, including nearly knocking off Marshall.

That's what they said in Dekalb before Joe Novak.

I think Creighton is pretty much the last ditch effort. If he can't turn it around at the end of the contract, I think you hear serious public conversation about dropping down a level or eliminating football from the administration and trustees.

If Creighton doesn't turn it around within the next four years, some people may make some noise, but I just don't see Lyke or Martin pulling the plug. Lyke is an ambitious person who could have a bright future ahead of her, and I don't see dropping football in her plan. She wants this team to succeed just as much as any of us do. Martin has publicly stated multiple times that she's "proud to be president of an FBS university, and she's committing to winning at this level." An the fact that the two of the persuaded the Board of Regents over the summer to increase the athletic department's budget, and to give Lyke the freedom to spend the majority of it how she wishes, makes me think that nobody in the BoR wants to make that decision.

All that said, the trustees demoted the AD Mackin and pulled the plug under their own volition. I think they'd need to do something similar to Lyke and Martin if they want to make that decision.

(12-03-2014 09:45 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  If Creighton doesn't turn it around within the next four years, some people may make some noise, but I just don't see Lyke or Martin pulling the plug. Lyke is an ambitious person who could have a bright future ahead of her, and I don't see dropping football in her plan. She wants this team to succeed just as much as any of us do. Martin has publicly stated multiple times that she's "proud to be president of an FBS university, and she's committing to winning at this level." An the fact that the two of the persuaded the Board of Regents over the summer to increase the athletic department's budget, and to give Lyke the freedom to spend the majority of it how she wishes, makes me think that nobody in the BoR wants to make that decision.

All that said, the trustees demoted the AD Mackin and pulled the plug under their own volition. I think they'd need to do something similar to Lyke and Martin if they want to make that decision.

Folks just doesn't realize how important being a FBS school is.

If we ever dropped down, folks would talk about CMU and WMU, and EMU would be an afterthought; would never get mentioned again in the same sentence.

Part of our identity is as one of three (directional) Michigan MAC schools.

There's actually been some good research into this. I'll try to find the study again, but there's empirical data to show that FBS universities receive a significantly higher amount of money from state legislatures than universities without FBS football. FBS universities are perceived as more 'nationally relevant' schools. Like you said, Steve, it's what puts us in company with CMU and WMU, and not Ferris State or SVSU.

Another person's opinion both pro and con:

http://eagletotem.net/blog/2014/12/03/no...igan/9023/