Bovada puts odds on the next Nebraska coach:

Frost 5/2
Schiano 15/4
Herman 4/1
Narduzzi 9/2
McElwain 5/1
Kill 13/2
Wells 7/1

Scott Frost has only been an OC for two years. Would be a huge mistake IMO.

(12-01-2014 01:56 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  Bovada puts odds on the next Nebraska coach:

Frost 5/2
Schiano 15/4
Herman 4/1
Narduzzi 9/2
McElwain 5/1
Kill 13/2
Wells 7/1

Scott Frost has only been an OC for two years. Would be a huge mistake IMO.

Herman, maybe, if he can recruit and hire assistants who are also ace recruiters. Nebraska needs the mentality of Meyer when it comes to recruiting. He once said that he tells assistant coaches, "If you can't recruit, you can't help us."

I wonder if Craig Bohl wishes he stuck around NDSU another year.

(12-01-2014 03:11 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  I wonder if Craig Bohl wishes he stuck around NDSU another year.

Do you think a major program would dip down for that, though? The college game seems structured like that.

I've often wondered how Villanova was able to keep Talley around so long. I think the time spent between Villanova and "a better program" could have been quite the risk if he ever wanted to "aim higher." And it's not like he's been a secret there...for some reason, top D1 programs don't cultivate coaches like that. I guess coaches, even ones like Talley, have to "pay their dues" at the lower levels of FBS before getting a better call.

We talk about Bo Pelini's record like it is amazing. Every year 3 of his 4 wins are against teams that are not that strong. When Nebraska played against competition the Huskers felt were there equals, they stumbled big time.

Things that could have been different-

Nebraska was robbed during the Big XII championship game against Texas. If I remember correctly, the Longhorn kicker got two tries to hit a field goal. There was controversy.

If Nebraska would have defeated 7-5 Wisconsin in the Big Ten championship game instead of laying an egg. The Huskers were destroyed in a game that, on paper, they should have won.

In my opinion, Pelini should have remained at Nebraska for another year. Pelini matured each year as a coach. He needed some adjustments to his staff and recruiting.

Nebraska should also consider playing some away games in Texas for recruiting purposes.

I was at the Nebraska-Wisconsin game in Madison this year. I was shocked how poorly Nebraska's defense played.

I was also shocked that Armstrong could not throw a ball on target AT ALL.

(12-01-2014 04:13 PM)chess Wrote:  We talk about Bo Pelini's record like it is amazing. Every year 3 of his 4 wins are against teams that are not that strong.

That's true of any coach who wins a lot of games. Big winners of the past like Osborne, Switzer, Paterno, Bowden, you name it, they got 75% or more of their wins against teams that were completely outclassed.

(12-01-2014 10:27 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Cussing coaches and players out on the sideline probably has more to do with him being fired than his record. It doesn't look good on tv for coaches to be abusing their employees and players. He was too much of a hothead to be a head coach.

It is amusing me right now that it has had to be explained to persons here more than once why Pelini is truly being fired. The 9 win season think is just a cover story and an intentionally very bad cover story.

It is kind of like saying "Don't let the door hit you on the way out" and then purposefully slamming the door on him as he goes.

Anyone with a lick of common sense can see it is not about only getting 9 wins. The guy has been a serious prick and the big boosters don't like him. That is probably the worst thing a coach can do at a school like Nebraska. You get the big donors mad and you are done. They will put up the money to get rid of you but there will be a catch. They want you to be humiliated on the way out.

Tweet from one of the Nebraska football players unhappy with Pelini's firing:

https://twitter.com/daHAHNi/status/539135514058563584

Quote:Samuel Hahn ‏
@daHAHNi

So the fate of our program lies in the hands of a man who is only here until the Wisconsin AD job opens up. This should turn out well

(12-01-2014 03:55 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 03:11 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  I wonder if Craig Bohl wishes he stuck around NDSU another year.

Do you think a major program would dip down for that, though? The college game seems structured like that.

I've often wondered how Villanova was able to keep Talley around so long. I think the time spent between Villanova and "a better program" could have been quite the risk if he ever wanted to "aim higher." And it's not like he's been a secret there...for some reason, top D1 programs don't cultivate coaches like that. I guess coaches, even ones like Talley, have to "pay their dues" at the lower levels of FBS before getting a better call.

Yep. Without time as a HC at an FBS school Bohl had no shot at Nebraska. Besides he was fired at Nebraska once and his defenses were awful there. No way they could go back to him after that,

True, Bohl got run out of Lincoln on a rail for a reason.

Anyway, as far as recruiting to Nebraska, really how hard can that be if you're in the business?

If the likes of Kansas State and Grandpa Bill can win with their molehills of history, and plenty of other schools can win being on relative islands in podunk college towns, then how hard can it be in the Information Age to fill 85 schollies?

Nebraska has top-notch facilities and that matters.

Jerry Kill...don't see it happening. He's got a nice stadium to play in over in Minny and things are moving up in regards to facilities. Besides, he's a god just as long as Goldy Gopher has reason to spin its head on occasion.

Quite frankly, I'm not worried about what the players think, either. If they're worried about learning how to dust off the likes of McNeese State, throw forward passes and tackle in order to keep their jobs next season, then that's probably a good thing.

(12-01-2014 12:33 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 12:19 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 11:50 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 11:27 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Just was looking and 2008-13 he was only #18 in winning percentage.

Also comparing him to Meyer and Saban is complete lunacy. If he had won a title, things are a ton different. But when you are mediocre(which is all that 9-4 is)- you don't have that long of a leash.

Wouldn't compare him to Meyer and Saban, but 9-4 every year still puts him ahead of 80% of the other head coaches. He'll get another HC job if he wants it. Probably not a job as "big" as Nebraska, but he can have another P5 job if he wants it, because averaging 9 wins a year would make you the all-time best coach for somewhere between a third and two-thirds of those teams.

I think you might be making a big assumption that Pelini could go to one of those middle to bottom of the P5 pack and still average 9 wins a year. Some of those wins come from just being Nebraska with all its history. Also, you might also get away with being a curmudgeon at Nebraska better than you would at a school where the boosters are accustomed to having their butts kissed regularly in exchange for tolerating mediocrity on the field.

A good fit for Pelini in about a year would be Virginia Tech...very good instate talent...just a thought whenever they make a change from Beamer....

I don't know about that. Once Beamer retires, VT fans expectations will be of a coach who will take them to multiple major bowls, contend for the ACC title and win at least 9 to 11 games a year. Until Florida State stepped up last year, Virginia Tech was the class of the ACC. I'm sure its fans expect it to be that way.

A good fit for Pelini would be at a mid level P5 school where the expectation are not as high as Nebraska and where 8 or 9 win seasons would have your job secured. Iowa State, Colorado, Purdue, Pitt, Oregon State, Maryland, Kentucky, Texas Tech, Syracuse, etc. come to mind.

As for Nebraska getting a decent coach, good luck with that. One thing is USC, Texas and Florida getting rid of mediocre coaches and expecting a good hire since those three sit in recruiting rich states and another thing is being a program such as Nebraska whose glory days are a thing of the past. Just like regional compact conferences and VHS tapes. They're gone.

Nebraska firing Pelini reminds me a lot of Michigan after they fired Rich Rodriguez. I can see Nebraska being a mediocre program for years to come. I might be wrong but we'll see.

(12-02-2014 01:26 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 12:33 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 12:19 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 11:50 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 11:27 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Just was looking and 2008-13 he was only #18 in winning percentage.

Also comparing him to Meyer and Saban is complete lunacy. If he had won a title, things are a ton different. But when you are mediocre(which is all that 9-4 is)- you don't have that long of a leash.

Wouldn't compare him to Meyer and Saban, but 9-4 every year still puts him ahead of 80% of the other head coaches. He'll get another HC job if he wants it. Probably not a job as "big" as Nebraska, but he can have another P5 job if he wants it, because averaging 9 wins a year would make you the all-time best coach for somewhere between a third and two-thirds of those teams.

I think you might be making a big assumption that Pelini could go to one of those middle to bottom of the P5 pack and still average 9 wins a year. Some of those wins come from just being Nebraska with all its history. Also, you might also get away with being a curmudgeon at Nebraska better than you would at a school where the boosters are accustomed to having their butts kissed regularly in exchange for tolerating mediocrity on the field.

A good fit for Pelini in about a year would be Virginia Tech...very good instate talent...just a thought whenever they make a change from Beamer....

I don't know about that. Once Beamer retires, VT fans expectations will be of a coach who will take them to multiple major bowls, contend for the ACC title and win at least 9 to 11 games a year. Until Florida State stepped up last year, Virginia Tech was the class of the ACC. I'm sure its fans expect it to be that way.

A good fit for Pelini would be at a mid level P5 school where the expectation are not as high as Nebraska and where 8 or 9 win seasons would have your job secured. Iowa State, Colorado, Purdue, Pitt, Oregon State, Maryland, Kentucky, Texas Tech, Syracuse, etc. come to mind.

As for Nebraska getting a decent coach, good luck with that. One thing is USC, Texas and Florida getting rid of mediocre coaches and expecting a good hire since those three sit in recruiting rich states and another thing is being a program such as Nebraska whose glory days are a thing of the past. Just like regional compact conferences and VHS tapes. They're gone.

Nebraska firing Pelini reminds me a lot of Michigan after they fired Rich Rodriguez. I can see Nebraska being a mediocre program for years to come. I might be wrong but we'll see.

I suspect the majority of VT fans would be perfectly fine with Pelini as the next HC.