(11-30-2014 09:36 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 06:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  ... Buffalo because they are actually double-conditionally eligible. They would need an NCAA waiver for having missed a game due to bad weather, and then another for playing two FCS teams.

There is no such waiver available to count a missed game as a win instead.

Waivers are like lawsuits - you can always file for one. Doesn't mean Buffalo would get one for the snow storm, they almost surely wouldn't, but they could ask.

(11-30-2014 08:55 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 06:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 05:28 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 05:05 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 03:15 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Again, I think part of ESPN buying HOD was getting a backup to AF. Here is http://www.goutsa.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=

C-USA has secondary agreements with two bowls also located right within the league's footprint, giving teams the opportunities to participate in the Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl in Fort Worth and the Duck Commander Independence Bowl in Shreveport, La. So unless it is written somewhere they can drop CUSA for a P5, I assume it will go to CUSA. I think Temple (Which Aersco sold their spot to CUSA for BYU) and the Sun Belt will be out.

Now here is a bold prediction, Ninja Swofford will work the Deal for ND to be the At-large bid to ensure all ACC teams are placed. If the ACC gets the NYD BBW game, then all times are covered.

Independance bowl is covered. So a back up agreement us void at this point.

Not talking about Duck Bowl but the AF as a back up for CUSA. Just trying to figure out if that is correct or not since that may be open.

The Armed Forces bowl has a backup deal with the Big 12 should (as in this case) Army not fill its spot.

C-USA has no backup agreement with C-USA so if the Big 12 can't fill the AF slot a C-USA team wouldn't have a preference over teams from any other conferences.

But since the Big 12 almost surely will not fill the Armed Forces slot, it should be there for C-USA team or someone else.

Again, I am just asking about AF since in June 2014 it was listed as a backup in the CUSA link provided earlier. I am curious when that changed? I was saying when ESPN bought the HOD, I thought that was option provided to the C-USA. Why I went backed an look. One thing I have learned about projections, most don't know the backup agreements.

Again, I thought I answered it: The AF Bowl has a backup with the Big 12. That's it. If there is a spot available and the Big 12 can't fill it, then it opens up for any other eligible team looking for a bowl to eat from, including but not limited to C-USA teams.

CUSA has a secondary tie which is the same priority as others in the bowl pool. The only ESPN back up agreements that distinguish between primary/conditional and secondary are AF this year, St. Pete and Birmingham in coming years. The rest are simply listed as secondary AFAIK. Granted, I could be missing some as it's been a good while since I've looked at it. IMO, CUSA should rethink the Little Rock SBC bowl game. 5 primary ties for 14 teams just seems short to me. No sense sitting at home if you don't have to. Who knows though what next year will bring.

(12-01-2014 11:03 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  CUSA has a secondary tie which is the same priority as others in the bowl pool. The only ESPN back up agreements that distinguish between primary/conditional and secondary are AF this year, St. Pete and Birmingham in coming years. The rest are simply listed as secondary AFAIK. Granted, I could be missing some as it's been a good while since I've looked at it. IMO, CUSA should rethink the Little Rock SBC bowl game. 5 primary ties for 14 teams just seems short to me. No sense sitting at home if you don't have to. Who knows though what next year will bring.

If they had only 5 this year- it would make some sense. Remember they only had 13 teams this year, and only 12 were eligible with ODU not. Maybe with 1-2 of the rotating bowls, make it where this year was the one that they were "off".

Sadly with the extra teams this season, I think you will see the Little Rock Bowl with SB vs CUSA and the LA Christmas Bowl with P12 vs at large P5 or MWC as Backup to either side. I could see the ACC try and have a tie-in the years the don't have the Orange Bowl. I never understood why that was not done with St. Pete Bowl. Would have made more sense to have it those years than when the are scheduled now. If this year scenario played out. FSU would probably be the only CFP team. Leaving the ACC to look for three at-large spots. One reason why I think the ACC might be playing in the Miami Bowl next year if the AAC is willing to sell their spot in the Cure Bowl or Boca Bowl to CUSA next year again. I do think the game would get a better time spot if that happened.

(12-01-2014 11:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 11:03 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  CUSA has a secondary tie which is the same priority as others in the bowl pool. The only ESPN back up agreements that distinguish between primary/conditional and secondary are AF this year, St. Pete and Birmingham in coming years. The rest are simply listed as secondary AFAIK. Granted, I could be missing some as it's been a good while since I've looked at it. IMO, CUSA should rethink the Little Rock SBC bowl game. 5 primary ties for 14 teams just seems short to me. No sense sitting at home if you don't have to. Who knows though what next year will bring.

If they had only 5 this year- it would make some sense. Remember they only had 13 teams this year, and only 12 were eligible with ODU not. Maybe with 1-2 of the rotating bowls, make it where this year was the one that they were "off".

Thanks, that makes more sense. I freely admit that I don't understand the "transition" thing. Does this apply to UNCC next year as well? I'll have to double check, but thought 5 bowls was standard throughout the contract for CUSA. When I initially looked at it, the only G5s to advance their positions (numbers and opponents) were the MAC and SBC.

(12-01-2014 05:01 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 11:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 11:03 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  CUSA has a secondary tie which is the same priority as others in the bowl pool. The only ESPN back up agreements that distinguish between primary/conditional and secondary are AF this year, St. Pete and Birmingham in coming years. The rest are simply listed as secondary AFAIK. Granted, I could be missing some as it's been a good while since I've looked at it. IMO, CUSA should rethink the Little Rock SBC bowl game. 5 primary ties for 14 teams just seems short to me. No sense sitting at home if you don't have to. Who knows though what next year will bring.

If they had only 5 this year- it would make some sense. Remember they only had 13 teams this year, and only 12 were eligible with ODU not. Maybe with 1-2 of the rotating bowls, make it where this year was the one that they were "off".

Thanks, that makes more sense. I freely admit that I don't understand the "transition" thing. Does this apply to UNCC next year as well? I'll have to double check, but thought 5 bowls was standard throughout the contract for CUSA. When I initially looked at it, the only G5s to advance their positions (numbers and opponents) were the MAC and SBC.

yes it would apply to Charlotte next year as well.