(11-29-2014 11:40 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Alabama #1
Everybody else

Actually, if Oregon beats Arizona then they essentially have nullified their earlier loss. In my opinion that puts them ahead of Alabama.

#1 Oregon
#2 Alabama


It really isn't a big deal which of them is in which position in regard to where they play. Either way, Oregon plays in the Rose and Alabama plays in the Sugar. It matters though in terms of who ends up as #3 and #4.

Here's my guess as to what they come up with this week:
1 AL
2 OR
3 FSU
4 TCU
5 Ohio St.
6 Baylor
7 Michigan St.
8 Arizona
9 Mississippi St.
10 KSU
11 Georgia Tech
12 Wisconsin
13 Missouri
14 Ole Miss
15 Oklahoma
16 UGA
17 UCLA
18 Clemson
19 ASU
20 Louisville
21 Boise
22 Auburn
23 LSU
24 Utah
25 USC

If this was correct and everything stayed the same (all favorites win, no changes), The matchups would be Alabama-TCU in the Sugar and Oregon/FSU in the Rose. Georgia Tech would still be top ACC team even with a loss and would be in Orange against Ohio St. Cotton is probably Baylor-Michigan St., Peach is probably Mississippi St.-Oklahoma and Fiesta is Ole Miss-Boise.

Arizona, Kansas St., Wisconsin and Missouri would all drop from losing final week games.

Its possible UGA, Missouri, Arizona or UCLA could capture the #10 spot over Oklahoma. We could easily end up with 4 SEC teams in the 12 slots.

(11-30-2014 12:40 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 11:40 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Alabama #1
Everybody else

Actually, if Oregon beats Arizona then they essentially have nullified their earlier loss. In my opinion that puts them ahead of Alabama.

#1 Oregon
#2 Alabama


It really isn't a big deal which of them is in which position in regard to where they play. Either way, Oregon plays in the Rose and Alabama plays in the Sugar. It matters though in terms of who ends up as #3 and #4.

I don't think the CFP committee would see it that way. I think this week just increased Alabama's SOS advantage and next week would be a wash quite frankly.

1. Oregon
2. Alabama
3. TCU
4. Florida State

If The Ohio State University pulls out a B1G title, I reserve the right to bump TCU.

(11-30-2014 12:45 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  1. Oregon
2. Alabama
3. TCU
4. Florida State

If The Ohio State University pulls out a B1G title, I reserve the right to bump TCU.

It really doesn't matter who is who in the top 4.

That said, of the four that are "in" as of right now, FSU looks to have the hardest road to stay in the top 4.

(11-30-2014 12:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:40 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 11:40 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Alabama #1
Everybody else

Actually, if Oregon beats Arizona then they essentially have nullified their earlier loss. In my opinion that puts them ahead of Alabama.

#1 Oregon
#2 Alabama


It really isn't a big deal which of them is in which position in regard to where they play. Either way, Oregon plays in the Rose and Alabama plays in the Sugar. It matters though in terms of who ends up as #3 and #4.

I don't think the CFP committee would see it that way. I think this week just increased Alabama's SOS advantage and next week would be a wash quite frankly.

That's fine, maybe they see it your way or maybe they see it my way. They would have a reasonable explanation for going either way.

I think Alabama has had far too many close calls that they have had to pull out in the end. Oregon on the other hand has been the one to control their games. If they do the same to Arizona then they have made good on their one single loss. That is why The PAC Championship gives an advantage to Oregon in comparison to what Alabama gets in theirs.

I am not saying Oregon will be ranked #1 on Tuesday. I don't think that happens until after next weekend.

(11-30-2014 12:48 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:40 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 11:40 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Alabama #1
Everybody else

Actually, if Oregon beats Arizona then they essentially have nullified their earlier loss. In my opinion that puts them ahead of Alabama.

#1 Oregon
#2 Alabama


It really isn't a big deal which of them is in which position in regard to where they play. Either way, Oregon plays in the Rose and Alabama plays in the Sugar. It matters though in terms of who ends up as #3 and #4.

I don't think the CFP committee would see it that way. I think this week just increased Alabama's SOS advantage and next week would be a wash quite frankly.

That's fine, maybe they see it your way or maybe they see it my way. They would have a reasonable explanation for going either way.

I think Alabama has had far too many close calls that they have had to pull out in the end. Oregon on the other hand has been the one to control their games. If they do the same to Arizona then they have made good on their one single loss. That is why The PAC Championship gives an advantage to Oregon in comparison to what Alabama gets in theirs.

I am not saying Oregon will be ranked #1 on Tuesday. I don't think that happens until after next weekend.

Alabama has had 3 wins by a TD or less. 2 of those 3 games were against teams that are going to be ranked this week. That's not going to hurt them much at all.

My thought overall is if Alabama wins comfortably against Missouri, it's going to be real hard to get passed by Oregon. Oregon would have to blow Arizona out to have any shot.

(11-30-2014 12:56 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:48 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:40 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 11:40 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Alabama #1
Everybody else

Actually, if Oregon beats Arizona then they essentially have nullified their earlier loss. In my opinion that puts them ahead of Alabama.

#1 Oregon
#2 Alabama


It really isn't a big deal which of them is in which position in regard to where they play. Either way, Oregon plays in the Rose and Alabama plays in the Sugar. It matters though in terms of who ends up as #3 and #4.

I don't think the CFP committee would see it that way. I think this week just increased Alabama's SOS advantage and next week would be a wash quite frankly.

That's fine, maybe they see it your way or maybe they see it my way. They would have a reasonable explanation for going either way.

I think Alabama has had far too many close calls that they have had to pull out in the end. Oregon on the other hand has been the one to control their games. If they do the same to Arizona then they have made good on their one single loss. That is why The PAC Championship gives an advantage to Oregon in comparison to what Alabama gets in theirs.

I am not saying Oregon will be ranked #1 on Tuesday. I don't think that happens until after next weekend.

Alabama has had 3 wins by a TD or less. 2 of those 3 games were against teams that are going to be ranked this week. That's not going to hurt them much at all.

My thought overall is if Alabama wins comfortably against Missouri, it's going to be real hard to get passed by Oregon. Oregon would have to blow Arizona out to have any shot.

I think you are showing a bit of biased favoritism towards Alabama in this situation but to be honest I bet there are a lot of other folks that would too.

It's not a big deal either way, it only matters in regards to whom they play, not where they play.

If neither of them lose, Alabama plays in the Sugar and Oregon plays in the Rose.

(11-29-2014 11:42 PM)stever20 Wrote:  one thing that starting to see to some degree- there is to me a pretty big difference now between Alabama getting one of TCU/Ohio St/Baylor and Florida St/Oregon having to play each other.

If Ohio State makes it at #4, you'd want to play them because they'll be on their third-string QB.

Other than that, it's about matchups. Bama will have the crowd behind them in New Orleans. FSU's good fortune is bound to run out sooner or later, and maybe another team will benefit from that, but who knows, their luck might hold out through January.

(11-30-2014 01:00 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:56 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:48 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:40 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Actually, if Oregon beats Arizona then they essentially have nullified their earlier loss. In my opinion that puts them ahead of Alabama.

#1 Oregon
#2 Alabama


It really isn't a big deal which of them is in which position in regard to where they play. Either way, Oregon plays in the Rose and Alabama plays in the Sugar. It matters though in terms of who ends up as #3 and #4.

I don't think the CFP committee would see it that way. I think this week just increased Alabama's SOS advantage and next week would be a wash quite frankly.

That's fine, maybe they see it your way or maybe they see it my way. They would have a reasonable explanation for going either way.

I think Alabama has had far too many close calls that they have had to pull out in the end. Oregon on the other hand has been the one to control their games. If they do the same to Arizona then they have made good on their one single loss. That is why The PAC Championship gives an advantage to Oregon in comparison to what Alabama gets in theirs.

I am not saying Oregon will be ranked #1 on Tuesday. I don't think that happens until after next weekend.

Alabama has had 3 wins by a TD or less. 2 of those 3 games were against teams that are going to be ranked this week. That's not going to hurt them much at all.

My thought overall is if Alabama wins comfortably against Missouri, it's going to be real hard to get passed by Oregon. Oregon would have to blow Arizona out to have any shot.

I think you are showing a bit of biased favoritism towards Alabama in this situation but to be honest I bet there are a lot of other folks that would too.

It's not a big deal either way, it only matters in regards to whom they play, not where they play.

If neither of them lose, Alabama plays in the Sugar and Oregon plays in the Rose.

my thought is that nothing happened tonight that would change the ratings between them. Yes Alabama's game was closer- but auburn is a tougher opponent exponentially. Next weeks opponents are going to be ranked within 2-3 slots of each other. I don't see a real big chance for Oregon to pass Alabama unless Alabama really struggled and Oregon just piled on vs Arizona.

Oregon's bigger problem is Arizona themselves. Arizona has beaten them last 2x I believe now.

Think a BIG advantage that Alabama is going to have is the Oregon game is the night before. So Saban will know exactly what Oregon did. If Oregon won by 30, he'll know that he has to win by a big margin. If somehow Oregon loses or wins barely, he'll know that pretty much all he has to do is win to get the #1 seed.

I think I would also say that Alabama will get the benefit of the doubt just because of how good they've been the last 6-7 years. I don't know if it was another team that Alabama would have gone up to #1 2 weeks ago quite frankly. That bias for Alabama isn't going to go away this year for sure.

(11-30-2014 12:44 AM)bullet Wrote:  Here's my guess as to what they come up with this week:
1 AL
2 OR
3 FSU
4 TCU
5 Ohio St.
6 Baylor
7 Michigan St.
8 Arizona
9 Mississippi St.
10 KSU
11 Georgia Tech
12 Wisconsin
13 Missouri
14 Ole Miss
15 Oklahoma
16 UGA
17 UCLA
18 Clemson
19 ASU
20 Louisville
21 Boise
22 Auburn
23 LSU
24 Utah
25 USC

If this was correct and everything stayed the same (all favorites win, no changes), The matchups would be Alabama-TCU in the Sugar and Oregon/FSU in the Rose. Georgia Tech would still be top ACC team even with a loss and would be in Orange against Ohio St. Cotton is probably Baylor-Michigan St., Peach is probably Mississippi St.-Oklahoma and Fiesta is Ole Miss-Boise.

Arizona, Kansas St., Wisconsin and Missouri would all drop from losing final week games.

Its possible UGA, Missouri, Arizona or UCLA could capture the #10 spot over Oklahoma. We could easily end up with 4 SEC teams in the 12 slots.

The only difference I would have in the top 20 would be flipping Arizona and Michigan State, but I'm splitting hairs and I think you put together a very good list.

My own top four would be Oregon, Alabama, TCU, Florida State, although my inclusion of FSU is strictly based upon their unbeaten status. I might not have FSU in the top 6-7 based on on-field performance and struggling against some of the mediocre teams they have played. I hope Georgia Tech wins the ACC title game and removes FSU from CFP consideration.

I think Wisconsin will remain ahead of Georgia Tech and Both will be ahead of Kansas St. Also, I'm not so sure about Michigan St's place. I don't see them just zombieing up to #7 just because 3 teams ahead of them won. I think Arizona 100% passes them. Wouldn't be shocked if Wisconsin passes them as well.

1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. FSU
4. TCU
5. OSU
6. Baylor
7. Arizona
8. Mississippi State
9. Michigan State
10. Georgia Tech
11. Wisconsin
12. Missouri
13. Kansas State
Everybody else has more than 2 losses and/or isn't involved in the CCGs.

If the top 3 win out and OSU beats Wisconsin, that's your final 4. Sorry Big 12.
If the top 3 win out and OSU loses to Wisconsin, TCU gets in with a solid win. Sorry Baylor.
Arizona has to win and hope that OSU loses, so that they get a spot with Alabama, FSU, and one Big 12 team.
I really don't see a scenario where the Big 12 will get two in.
GaTech would need mass chaos and many upsets on CCG weekend to get in with a win over FSU. Ditto for Wisconsin.
And Missouri with an Alabama upset??? That would be an epic scenario!!!

For the record, I hate Ohio State and hope they lose this week.

However, the people espousing the "Barrett is injured...OSU is out" line of logic....didn't OSU lose their Heisman hopeful QB once this season and still put together a strong season?

OSU is actually lucky that they have one more game to prove to the committee that they are worthy, despite Miller and Barrett being out. Jones is a blue-chip QB and fits right in Meyer's schemes. He might pull a Kenny Guiton or a JT Barrett and shine when he gets his shot at the helm.

Now, if he stinks and they can only squeak by Wisconsin, then you all can go wild with your relegation of them. But I think we need to see what post-Barrett Ohio State looks like before we disqualify them entirely.

I think there are 7 teams now that know they'll be in one of the NY6 bowls...
Florida St
Alabama
Oregon
Baylor
TCU
Michigan St
Miss St

Ohio St is close- but I do wonder if they got blown out next week if they would fall out of the top 10.. think it's likely.

1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. FSU
5. OSU
6. Baylor

Do you penalize OSU with an ugly/lucky win next week if the new QB is awful and they look like a team that can't compete in the semis? I don't know. I don't think anyone has ever even contemplated that scenario in CF history in the BCS era. I think you have to take them in with a win, and that's because TCU hasn't done enough to separate itself from Baylor and vice versa.

(11-30-2014 01:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 01:00 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:56 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:48 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I don't think the CFP committee would see it that way. I think this week just increased Alabama's SOS advantage and next week would be a wash quite frankly.

That's fine, maybe they see it your way or maybe they see it my way. They would have a reasonable explanation for going either way.

I think Alabama has had far too many close calls that they have had to pull out in the end. Oregon on the other hand has been the one to control their games. If they do the same to Arizona then they have made good on their one single loss. That is why The PAC Championship gives an advantage to Oregon in comparison to what Alabama gets in theirs.

I am not saying Oregon will be ranked #1 on Tuesday. I don't think that happens until after next weekend.

Alabama has had 3 wins by a TD or less. 2 of those 3 games were against teams that are going to be ranked this week. That's not going to hurt them much at all.

My thought overall is if Alabama wins comfortably against Missouri, it's going to be real hard to get passed by Oregon. Oregon would have to blow Arizona out to have any shot.

I think you are showing a bit of biased favoritism towards Alabama in this situation but to be honest I bet there are a lot of other folks that would too.

It's not a big deal either way, it only matters in regards to whom they play, not where they play.

If neither of them lose, Alabama plays in the Sugar and Oregon plays in the Rose.

my thought is that nothing happened tonight that would change the ratings between them. Yes Alabama's game was closer- but auburn is a tougher opponent exponentially. Next weeks opponents are going to be ranked within 2-3 slots of each other. I don't see a real big chance for Oregon to pass Alabama unless Alabama really struggled and Oregon just piled on vs Arizona.

Oregon's bigger problem is Arizona themselves. Arizona has beaten them last 2x I believe now.

Think a BIG advantage that Alabama is going to have is the Oregon game is the night before. So Saban will know exactly what Oregon did. If Oregon won by 30, he'll know that he has to win by a big margin. If somehow Oregon loses or wins barely, he'll know that pretty much all he has to do is win to get the #1 seed.

Unless they all change their minds and re-assess the whole season, Alabama stays ahead of Oregon if both win out. The committee loves Auburn as shown by whoever has lost to or beat Auburn all year. So I don't see any possibility they move Oregon ahead.

I would have already had Oregon ahead, but I don't see them changing their mind.

(11-30-2014 01:30 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 12:44 AM)bullet Wrote:  Here's my guess as to what they come up with this week:
1 AL
2 OR
3 FSU
4 TCU
5 Ohio St.
6 Baylor
7 Michigan St.
8 Arizona
9 Mississippi St.
10 KSU
11 Georgia Tech
12 Wisconsin
13 Missouri
14 Ole Miss
15 Oklahoma
16 UGA
17 UCLA
18 Clemson
19 ASU
20 Louisville
21 Boise
22 Auburn
23 LSU
24 Utah
25 USC

If this was correct and everything stayed the same (all favorites win, no changes), The matchups would be Alabama-TCU in the Sugar and Oregon/FSU in the Rose. Georgia Tech would still be top ACC team even with a loss and would be in Orange against Ohio St. Cotton is probably Baylor-Michigan St., Peach is probably Mississippi St.-Oklahoma and Fiesta is Ole Miss-Boise.

Arizona, Kansas St., Wisconsin and Missouri would all drop from losing final week games.

Its possible UGA, Missouri, Arizona or UCLA could capture the #10 spot over Oklahoma. We could easily end up with 4 SEC teams in the 12 slots.

The only difference I would have in the top 20 would be flipping Arizona and Michigan State, but I'm splitting hairs and I think you put together a very good list.

My own top four would be Oregon, Alabama, TCU, Florida State, although my inclusion of FSU is strictly based upon their unbeaten status. I might not have FSU in the top 6-7 based on on-field performance and struggling against some of the mediocre teams they have played. I hope Georgia Tech wins the ACC title game and removes FSU from CFP consideration.

Personally, I would have it 1 Oregon, 2 FSU (there is something about managing to win), 3 TCU, 4 Alabama. And like you, I think FSU deserves to be up there because they haven't lost, but not sure they would do to well against other top 10 teams.