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U mean usf was better head to head while you were in a BCS conference? Lol rofl. 2-0 since we've been on a level playing field. Oh yah, got bcs?
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(11-29-2014 07:29 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  U mean usf was better head to head while you were in a BCS conference? Lol rofl. 2-0 since we've been on a level playing field. Oh yah, got bcs?

still 4-2
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(11-29-2014 07:29 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  U mean usf was better head to head while you were in a BCS conference? Lol rofl. 2-0 since we've been on a level playing field. Oh yah, got bcs?

This is where the Gnats are SOOO off base. You want to say the reason you mud stomped you was because it wasnt a level playing field.

YOU HAD AN 18 YEAR HEAD START. 18 ******* years to build a better program then us and you didnt. Then after only 4 years at division 1, USF got into the Big East over you. What does that say?

Then you think being in the Big East was such a huge advantage. Talk to ANY Big East member. The money wasnt very much different at all. Maybe $3 million total. You really think that makes that much of a difference? We were the lowest paid BCS conference by far.
How about Prestige... oh ya, we were ridiculed every week on ESPN. CUSA was at least talked about as being a scrappy up and coming conference. The Big East was talked about being the worst BCS and how we werent worthy. My god you guys totally think it was some golden ticket when it wasnt.

So for all you ramblings about how we had this massive advantage it simply isnt true. The biggest advantage any program can have is time. You guys had a ton of it before us and you didnt do a damn thing with it. So congrats that you finally caught up. It wont last.

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(11-29-2014 03:20 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(11-29-2014 12:26 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(11-29-2014 12:22 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  I've actually been reading up on several of your threads, you can be condescending. It's okay, I'd be pissed too if I were on the other end of this. However, I would have just said good game and look forward to it next year. At the end of it all I'm glad you decided to man up. Thank you for the congrats.

Oh, no you wouldnt. Ive been on this board long enough to know you would have gone to war also. You support your team just like I support mine. I just get tired of the UCF fans trying to say that USF hasnt accomplished anything and then try to compare the two programs based on what has happened in the last couple years.

The truth is, UCF is much older program and should be beating us. USF has over accomplished for years... but we also wont remain down forever and UCF wont reamain up. Every team eventually heads south. Ask Texas or any other former P5 power.

Even Oleary acknowledges its going to be hard for UCF to stay on top with the amount and level of talent your losing next year. So well see how it goes. This round went to you... but its still 4-2 :)

Bless your heart........

Do you just attempt to sound like a 60 year old southern woman or what?
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(11-29-2014 12:07 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(11-29-2014 12:04 AM)knightalum74 Wrote:  
(11-29-2014 12:01 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
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(11-28-2014 11:47 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Thanks. Yall look so similar I figured its accurate... that and UCF has the highest employment rate at Disney then any university.

You do realize the CEO of Walt Disney World is a UCF alum? And that there are many jobs at Walt Disney that aren't actually in Hospitality or hourly related positions (IT, HR, Finance, etc). So why is that a bad thing? I've never understood the negativity about being associated with one of the worlds most famous brands.

Surely you could do some graph about it though?

Ive got no issue with your graduates working there. Ive actually been fairly kind to your academics, even though your not rated as high as USF. My issue, as i have stated in other threads, is that I think that UCF looks like a Disney shopping mall.

and I deal with Behavior. Negativity is an emotion not a behavior... your reading skills need some work.

My "negativity" statement was a generalization about associating UCF with Disney, not just your comment (despite what your massive ego may lead you to believe, you are not the first one to use the "Disney" card).

Disney is historically a very poor employer that treats their entry level employees like crap. If i were UCF I woudn't want to be associated with them.
This is me being very serious and not just trying to rial yall up, which is fun.

I have several people I know or work with that are employed by Disney. They do forced overtime, postponed pay raises, and out right fire employees when they hit the higher end of the pay scale, so they can replace them with cheaper labor. They truly are not an employee friendly business, so being called Dinsey-esque is really not something I would want.

Sounds like you have some bitter friends. If they are hourly they are union. If you think the union would allow anything like that you are wrong. About the only thing they do is strategically schedule to make sure they avoid workers becoming full time. They don't force overtime although plenty is available. They don't force firing and they are one of the most inclusive companies on the planet with strict institutionalized protections for cast. The pay isn't great but is competitive for the type of job they are doing. They have subvented food available. Some are offered free transportation and boarding if they are in the college or international programs. They have on sight healthcare. They receive sick leave after six months. They are provided vacation and have free park entrance for them and their family which costs 500 a piece. They are provided financial advice and assistance and on sight immigration. The pay is negotiated by the union and is more then their competitors seaworld etc. Please don't espouse information about a company you know very little about. Btw no one can be fired for making too much unless the union rep is colluding with management which I highly doubtful. The firing process is difficult and well documented. Unlike companies like Lockheed Martin that doesn't happen at Disney. Here is an example of what Disney does for it's hourly cast. Leaders are authorized to give cast members up to 400 a month for three consecutive months if they are having a hard time with bills etc. there is no expectation of repayment.
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(11-29-2014 09:19 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  
(11-29-2014 12:07 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(11-29-2014 12:04 AM)knightalum74 Wrote:  
(11-29-2014 12:01 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(11-28-2014 11:55 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  You do realize the CEO of Walt Disney World is a UCF alum? And that there are many jobs at Walt Disney that aren't actually in Hospitality or hourly related positions (IT, HR, Finance, etc). So why is that a bad thing? I've never understood the negativity about being associated with one of the worlds most famous brands.

Surely you could do some graph about it though?

Ive got no issue with your graduates working there. Ive actually been fairly kind to your academics, even though your not rated as high as USF. My issue, as i have stated in other threads, is that I think that UCF looks like a Disney shopping mall.

and I deal with Behavior. Negativity is an emotion not a behavior... your reading skills need some work.

My "negativity" statement was a generalization about associating UCF with Disney, not just your comment (despite what your massive ego may lead you to believe, you are not the first one to use the "Disney" card).

Disney is historically a very poor employer that treats their entry level employees like crap. If i were UCF I woudn't want to be associated with them.
This is me being very serious and not just trying to rial yall up, which is fun.

I have several people I know or work with that are employed by Disney. They do forced overtime, postponed pay raises, and out right fire employees when they hit the higher end of the pay scale, so they can replace them with cheaper labor. They truly are not an employee friendly business, so being called Dinsey-esque is really not something I would want.

Sounds like you have some bitter friends. If they are hourly they are union. If you think the union would allow anything like that you are wrong. About the only thing they do is strategically schedule to make sure they avoid workers becoming full time. They don't force overtime although plenty is available. They don't force firing and they are one of the most inclusive companies on the planet with strict institutionalized protections for cast. The pay isn't great but is competitive for the type of job they are doing. They have subvented food available. Some are offered free transportation and boarding if they are in the college or international programs. They have on sight healthcare. They receive sick leave after six months. They are provided vacation and have free park entrance for them and their family which costs 500 a piece. They are provided financial advice and assistance and on sight immigration. The pay is negotiated by the union and is more then their competitors seaworld etc. Please don't espouse information about a company you know very little about. Btw no one can be fired for making too much unless the union rep is colluding with management which I highly doubtful. The firing process is difficult and well documented. Unlike companies like Lockheed Martin that doesn't happen at Disney. Here is an example of what Disney does for it's hourly cast. Leaders are authorized to give cast members up to 400 a month for three consecutive months if they are having a hard time with bills etc. there is no expectation of repayment.

At this point I can tell you dont have a clue what your talking about and I wont even discuss it with you. Forced overtime is a standard in at least three major divisions and if you dont know that, then you really are talking out of ignorance. All those benefits you talk about are for full time, which you admit they intentionaly schedule in a manner to avoid allowing to happen.... and those $400 payouts basically never happen. Its at the discretion of the leaders and if you have ever annoyed one, it doesnt happy. Moving up in that company is a PHD level course in ass kissing. I know WAY more then I will ever post here because it could easily be lead back to specific situations and the people would be identified.

and firing is difficult. Tell that to the over 40 senior security officers who were fired for using their cell phone. 1st offense, no warnings. Or how about the 60 year old security guard who was dismissed because while sitting at a cardboard table he put a pencil into an existing hole and made the hole slightly larger. He was terminated for property destruction.

If you really believe the Disney hype then you are more then likely above the pay grade of those you are attempting to discuss.

You seem like a nice enough guy, so I am not gonna get into a huge war over this.... plus its saturday. Its time to chill. You believe what you want but I know a ton of employees, who of course know a ton more. Disney is not a friendly company towards its low end.

If you work there and like it, I am happy for you but there are huge issues within Disney. Maybe your department is great but many arent.
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RE: Go Bulls! Trample UCF!
(11-29-2014 09:15 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(11-29-2014 07:29 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  U mean usf was better head to head while you were in a BCS conference? Lol rofl. 2-0 since we've been on a level playing field. Oh yah, got bcs?

This is where the Gnats are SOOO off base. You want to say the reason you mud stomped you was because it wasnt a level playing field.

YOU HAD AN 18 YEAR HEAD START. 18 ******* years to build a better program then us and you didnt. Then after only 4 years at division 1, USF got into the Big East over you. What does that say?

Then you think being in the Big East was such a huge advantage. Talk to ANY Big East member. The money wasnt very much different at all. Maybe $3 million total. You really think that makes that much of a difference? We were the lowest paid BCS conference by far.
How about Prestige... oh ya, we were ridiculed every week on ESPN. CUSA was at least talked about as being a scrappy up and coming conference. The Big East was talked about being the worst BCS and how we werent worthy. My god you guys totally think it was some golden ticket when it wasnt.

So for all you ramblings about how we had this massive advantage it simply isnt true. The biggest advantage any program can have is time. You guys had a ton of it before us and you didnt do a damn thing with it. So congrats that you finally caught up. It wont last.

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Nothing personal but that's a stupid post.

When Microsoft launched the XBOX its sales did better than Nintendo's Gamecube. Using your
logic since Nintendo had been a company for over a hundred years Microsoft shouldn't have stood a chance. But what Microsoft had was market research, familiarity with similar markets, and boat loads of cash. My point is, when they entered the console war the experience factor was negligible compared to resources.

As it relates to ucf/Usf, the long winding path ucf took playing in muddy grass less fields of Division 3 football has no effect on the here and now competing at the highest level of football. During the 4-0 run the Bulls had over the Knights USF had more money, more resources, more appealing amenities for recruits, and inarguably a better position to win those games.
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(11-29-2014 09:38 AM)the1sttransport Wrote:  
(11-29-2014 09:15 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(11-29-2014 07:29 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  U mean usf was better head to head while you were in a BCS conference? Lol rofl. 2-0 since we've been on a level playing field. Oh yah, got bcs?

This is where the Gnats are SOOO off base. You want to say the reason you mud stomped you was because it wasnt a level playing field.

YOU HAD AN 18 YEAR HEAD START. 18 ******* years to build a better program then us and you didnt. Then after only 4 years at division 1, USF got into the Big East over you. What does that say?

Then you think being in the Big East was such a huge advantage. Talk to ANY Big East member. The money wasnt very much different at all. Maybe $3 million total. You really think that makes that much of a difference? We were the lowest paid BCS conference by far.
How about Prestige... oh ya, we were ridiculed every week on ESPN. CUSA was at least talked about as being a scrappy up and coming conference. The Big East was talked about being the worst BCS and how we werent worthy. My god you guys totally think it was some golden ticket when it wasnt.

So for all you ramblings about how we had this massive advantage it simply isnt true. The biggest advantage any program can have is time. You guys had a ton of it before us and you didnt do a damn thing with it. So congrats that you finally caught up. It wont last.

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Nothing personal but that's a stupid post.

When Microsoft launched the XBOX it's sales did better than Nintendo's Gamecube. Using you're logic since Nintendo had been a company for over a hundred years Microsoft shouldn't have stood a chance. But what Microsoft had was market research, familiarity with similar markets, and boat loads of cash. My point is, when they entered the console war the experience factor was negligible compared to resources.

As it relates to ucf/Usf, the long winding path ucf took playing in muddy grass less fields of Division 3 football has no effect on the here and now competing at the highest level of football. During the 4-0 run the Bulls had over the Knights USF had more money, more resources, more appealing amenities for recruits, and unarguably a better position to win those games.

Ok, so I see the direction of your post but for it to remain valid you would have to find the area that USF had some major advantage. To compare USF to Microsoft you would have to somehow say that we were a quickly developed titan in a different area.
For example, if USF was a major power in basketball and had millions coming in from it and that was diverted so that football could become competitive quickly, then your analogy would hold true. Simple fact is, that wasn't the case and is why USF was not able to do more. Actually moving up quickly hurt USF because it raised expectations before we had the opportunity to build any tradition, brand or fan loyalty.
When those expectations moved up and we were not able to meet them due to lack of history, income and ability to build facilities it actually had a negative effect upon our program. The Big East, to me, was actually more detrimental to the long term success at USF then it was an advantage.

UCF actually did it the exact opposite and am now paying dividend. What most UCF fans dont want to talk about when bashing USF is that you did have much more time to develop your program and therefore should be in the lead. By all acounts USF was given nothing that really would have propelled them way ahead of UCF, like Microsoft had.

I see your point, but I cant really see how the USF/Microsoft scenario would be applicable in this scenario.
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Ucf 1-0 bcs games
Usf had a 10 year headstart and never even played for one. Yall have never won anything of any significance and yesterday must have been miserable to get completely dominated infront of a significantly ucf crowd in your own rented stadium.
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(11-29-2014 11:24 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  Ucf 1-0 bcs games
Usf had a 10 year headstart and never even played for one. Yall have never won anything of any significance and yesterday must have been miserable to get completely dominated infront of a significantly ucf crowd in your own rented stadium.

Please don't be so dramatic. You beat a 4-8 team that hasn't had a winning season in four years. Am I happy we lost, of course not but I'm NOT miserable. I have plenty of more important things in my life than USF football and while I watch and root for them every game I have lived long enough to know things go in cycles. We are down now, but it won't last.
So enjoy your win but don't get too high on it or you may be down when it goes the other way and I can promise you my friend that it will, because nothing in life remains the same.04-cheers
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(11-29-2014 09:15 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
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Then after only 4 years at division 1, USF got into the Big East over you. What does that say?

That your BB program was ahead of ours,
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(11-29-2014 11:24 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  Ucf 1-0 bcs games
Usf had a 10 year headstart and never even played for one. Yall have never won anything of any significance and yesterday must have been miserable to get completely dominated infront of a significantly ucf crowd in your own rented stadium.

Please don't be so dramatic. You beat a 4-8 team that hasn't had a winning season in four years. Am I happy we lost, of course not but I'm NOT miserable. I have plenty of more important things in my life than USF football and while I watch and root for them every game I have lived long enough to know things go in cycles. We are down now, but it won't last.
So enjoy your win but don't get too high on it or you may be down when it goes the other way and I can promise you my friend that it will, because nothing in life remains the same.04-cheers
If you aren't miserable it just shows how apathetic and far down usf football has fallen. When we lost to Yall I was sick to my stomach.
Glad I have not had that experience in 2000+ days.
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(11-29-2014 11:33 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  
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(11-29-2014 11:24 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  Ucf 1-0 bcs games
Usf had a 10 year headstart and never even played for one. Yall have never won anything of any significance and yesterday must have been miserable to get completely dominated infront of a significantly ucf crowd in your own rented stadium.

Please don't be so dramatic. You beat a 4-8 team that hasn't had a winning season in four years. Am I happy we lost, of course not but I'm NOT miserable. I have plenty of more important things in my life than USF football and while I watch and root for them every game I have lived long enough to know things go in cycles. We are down now, but it won't last.
So enjoy your win but don't get too high on it or you may be down when it goes the other way and I can promise you my friend that it will, because nothing in life remains the same.04-cheers
If you aren't miserable it just shows how apathetic and far down usf football has fallen. When we lost to Yall I was sick to my stomach.
Glad I have not had that experience in 2000+ days.

03-lmfao ok well my friend it won't be long until you will be miserable again.
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I dunno even if usf does beat us some time in the future I think it's safe to say usf will never outnumber us 3-1 in our own stadium
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(11-29-2014 11:36 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  I dunno even if usf does beat us some time in the future I think it's safe to say usf will never outnumber us 3-1 in our own stadium

Oh I see you counted the numbers there 03-lmfao

It took over 3000 days from UCF losing to USF first game until they finally won.

Figure I would use numbers like yours 03-lmfao
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True and it'll take an infinite amount of days for usf to win a bcs bowl game (it can never happen) meanwhile ucf did it in our first try.
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(11-29-2014 11:43 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  True and it'll take an infinite amount of days for usf to win a bcs bowl game (it can never happen) meanwhile ucf did it in our first try.

04-cheers good for you. 03-lmfao
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(11-29-2014 11:33 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  
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(11-29-2014 11:24 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  Ucf 1-0 bcs games
Usf had a 10 year headstart and never even played for one. Yall have never won anything of any significance and yesterday must have been miserable to get completely dominated infront of a significantly ucf crowd in your own rented stadium.

Please don't be so dramatic. You beat a 4-8 team that hasn't had a winning season in four years. Am I happy we lost, of course not but I'm NOT miserable. I have plenty of more important things in my life than USF football and while I watch and root for them every game I have lived long enough to know things go in cycles. We are down now, but it won't last.
So enjoy your win but don't get too high on it or you may be down when it goes the other way and I can promise you my friend that it will, because nothing in life remains the same.04-cheers
If you aren't miserable it just shows how apathetic and far down usf football has fallen.

No, it's called perspective.
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Proud of our win. Helps take the sting out of that 64-12 loss. I enjoy razzing USF fans, but I try to keep it friendly and I'm glad we play every year now. I really do hope USF turns it around and makes our games more intense. Agree that all things are cyclical. Good news for you Bulls is that it's basketball season. We're not so good yet, but we're trying.
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Taggart was dangerously close to having just 3 wins in two seasons.
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