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Strategy Question
Last week, the Dukes enjoyed a large 4th quarter lead. Wither’s continued to run the hurry up offense. JMU gave up possession and Elon scored some meaningless points.
On Saturday, if we have a small lead and possession late in the 4th quarter, conventional football wisdom is to milk the clock running as much time as possible between plays.
Will Wither’s take the air out of the ball or continue to play fast?
Mickey's teams were always good at running the clock with leads.
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Strategy Question
Time management is a concern with the hurry up three and out occurrences. However, LU's defense is not as good as ours.
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11-27-2014 09:21 PM |
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RE: Strategy Question
I think that Withers will continue to play fast no matter what the score or situation.
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RE: Strategy Question
(11-27-2014 09:25 PM)Purple Reign Wrote: I think that Withers will continue to play fast no matter what the score or situation.
WHY??
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11-27-2014 09:28 PM |
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RE: Strategy Question
Why he would keep playing fast when running the clock out would be to his advantage is a great question. But he has kept his foot on the pedal all year. I do not see him changing that.
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11-27-2014 09:32 PM |
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RE: Strategy Question
(11-27-2014 07:17 PM)HMK Wrote: Last week, the Dukes enjoyed a large 4th quarter lead. Wither’s continued to run the hurry up offense. JMU gave up possession and Elon scored some meaningless points.
On Saturday, if we have a small lead and possession late in the 4th quarter, conventional football wisdom is to milk the clock running as much time as possible between plays.
Will Wither’s take the air out of the ball or continue to play fast?
Mickey's teams were always good at running the clock with leads.
we gave up possession because we had two QB's running the hurry up that had not played very much.
If lee were in the game in the 4th qtr, we would have hung 70+ on them and they would not have seen the ball as many possessions.
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11-27-2014 09:49 PM |
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RE: Strategy Question
At the end of the second quarter of the Stony Brook game did the Dukes not score rather quickly and gave Stony time to come back and score at the end of the half?
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11-27-2014 09:59 PM |
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RE: Strategy Question
(11-27-2014 09:49 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote: (11-27-2014 07:17 PM)HMK Wrote: Last week, the Dukes enjoyed a large 4th quarter lead. Wither’s continued to run the hurry up offense. JMU gave up possession and Elon scored some meaningless points.
On Saturday, if we have a small lead and possession late in the 4th quarter, conventional football wisdom is to milk the clock running as much time as possible between plays.
Will Wither’s take the air out of the ball or continue to play fast?
Mickey's teams were always good at running the clock with leads.
we gave up possession because we had two QB's running the hurry up that had not played very much.
If lee were in the game in the 4th qtr, we would have hung 70+ on them and they would not have seen the ball as many possessions.
Unlike Elon, I expect Liberty to give us a game.
So employing a strategy that opens up a greater chance of a turnover or the likelihood of a punt is the efficient way to close out a ball game? If JMU was to lose a game in this fashion, I can only imagine the criticism on this board.
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RE: Strategy Question
(11-27-2014 09:28 PM)HMK Wrote: (11-27-2014 09:25 PM)Purple Reign Wrote: I think that Withers will continue to play fast no matter what the score or situation.
WHY??
According to Withers, whenever we have tried to slow down this season we have gotten out of rhythm and had to punt after just a handful of downs.
I have to agree with him. If you move the chains when moving fast versus 3 and out when churning clock, stick with what works.
As to the statement that Mickey was good w/ leads - I would say the opposite. He always played not to lose and it caught up on us many times.....the worst being Maryland in 2009.
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RE: Strategy Question
(11-27-2014 10:09 PM)JMUBarry Wrote: (11-27-2014 09:28 PM)HMK Wrote: (11-27-2014 09:25 PM)Purple Reign Wrote: I think that Withers will continue to play fast no matter what the score or situation.
WHY??
According to Withers, whenever we have tried to slow down this season we have gotten out of rhythm and had to punt after just a handful of downs.
I have to agree with him. If you move the chains when moving fast versus 3 and out when churning clock, stick with what works.
As to the statement that Mickey was good w/ leads - I would say the opposite. He always played not to lose and it caught up on us many times.....the worst being Maryland in 2009.
I disagree but I hope you are right.
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(11-27-2014 07:17 PM)HMK Wrote: Mickey's teams were always good at running the clock with leads.
No. Mickey's teams were always good at losing to worse teams because he let off the pedal and tried to run the clock and play not to lose.
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11-28-2014 02:30 AM |
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RE: Strategy Question
Don't be fooled. EW has just as much or more of a chip on his shoulder as MM. Ego can get in the way of a lot of things.
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11-28-2014 02:38 PM |
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RE: Strategy Question
Cough, Charlotte game, cough. We were all going nuts down the stretch in that one with the pace, but I'm also willing to defend both MM and EW for their respective choices in this way. Without a clear identity, you're usually way worse off than you are when you stick to your strategy even when that's unconventional. When teams played against the MM JMU teams, they knew - and were often concerned/terrified about - they were going to get a smash-mouth, hard-fought game in which they better not fall behind or the Dukes might grind it out. Now it's obviously different, but no less effective in terms of what you're putting in the heads of opponents. They know JMU will have the pedal on the floor all game long and they better be prepared to keep up.
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11-28-2014 03:33 PM |
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RE: Strategy Question
Well-said PurpleStreamers. Agreed.
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