If we win out we could maybe get some votes, but it would knock UCF out

(11-23-2014 05:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  ^^ Three losses won't cut it. Will be interesting to see how it plays out with MU, BSU, CSU. They would all have to lose a game for any AAC team to have a chance.

CSU can win out and still not get it, if Boise loses in champ game.

(11-24-2014 08:38 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 05:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  ^^ Three losses won't cut it. Will be interesting to see how it plays out with MU, BSU, CSU. They would all have to lose a game for any AAC team to have a chance.

CSU can win out and still not get it, if Boise loses in champ game.

That would probably be the best case scenario for AAC. Marshall losing a game (maybe 2) and Boise St losing to SDSU in the MWC championship game.

(11-23-2014 05:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  no one even notices the very shady busines that is happening with la tech?

they had no votes, lost to odu now have votes....i bet money its marshalls coach or a c-usa coach...

I was thinking maybe it was a misinterpreted GA Tech vote, just one letter difference.

(11-23-2014 05:25 PM)pesik Wrote:  Tigermaniac ECU is a better win than temple, the same way Houston is a better win than tulane,..so we'll cross that off right now and that isnt even a remote question...

and a loss to memphis (8-3) with your starting qb in a pass happy offense missing half the game, is a better a loss than to houston who is 6-4 ...

Even with Kiel in the game they managed 7 points an entire half which they got on the first play of the game. So the missing QB excuse doesn't make sense. He did nothing else.

As far as Temple and ECU goes. Temple beat ECU head to head. Which is what my comment stated. No one said it was better or worse.

(11-24-2014 05:29 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 05:25 PM)pesik Wrote:  Tigermaniac ECU is a better win than temple, the same way Houston is a better win than tulane,..so we'll cross that off right now and that isnt even a remote question...

and a loss to memphis (8-3) with your starting qb in a pass happy offense missing half the game, is a better a loss than to houston who is 6-4 ...

Even with Kiel in the game they managed 7 points an entire half which they got on the first play of the game. So the missing QB excuse doesn't make sense. He did nothing else.

As far as Temple and ECU goes. Temple beat ECU head to head. Which is what my comment stated. No one said it was better or worse.

did you watch the game, kiel was hitting qbs deep that game, including one that would have been a walk in TD, but the recievers dropped it aswell as many other drops, you can argue maybe memphis would have still won but it would have been a completely different game if he had played the full game

cincy at the time was a pure passing team and lost its qb..im not sure how that doesnt factor in ...especially for a team that is quick strick.
thats like saying it wouldnt have made a difference if USF had lost its qb white at halftime against tulsa, tulsa was up 27-7 at half, they only scored 7 the first half, tulsa was going to win (spoiler: USF won the game)

(11-24-2014 11:57 AM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 05:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  no one even notices the very shady busines that is happening with la tech?

they had no votes, lost to odu now have votes....i bet money its marshalls coach or a c-usa coach...

I was thinking maybe it was a misinterpreted GA Tech vote, just one letter difference.

I don't think so, they probably have a computer add them up.

(11-24-2014 05:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 05:29 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 05:25 PM)pesik Wrote:  Tigermaniac ECU is a better win than temple, the same way Houston is a better win than tulane,..so we'll cross that off right now and that isnt even a remote question...

and a loss to memphis (8-3) with your starting qb in a pass happy offense missing half the game, is a better a loss than to houston who is 6-4 ...

Even with Kiel in the game they managed 7 points an entire half which they got on the first play of the game. So the missing QB excuse doesn't make sense. He did nothing else.

As far as Temple and ECU goes. Temple beat ECU head to head. Which is what my comment stated. No one said it was better or worse.

did you watch the game, kiel was hitting qbs deep that game, including one that would have been a walk in TD, but the recievers dropped it aswell as many other drops, you can argue maybe memphis would have still won but it would have been a completely different game if he had played the full game

cincy at the time was a pure passing team and lost its qb..im not sure how that doesnt factor in ...especially for a team that is quick strick.
thats like saying it wouldnt have made a difference if USF had lost its qb white at halftime against tulsa, tulsa was up 27-7 at half, they only scored 7 the first half, tulsa was going to win (spoiler: USF won the game)

He was 11/27 with 1 TD and 1 INT.

It was 27-7 at halftime.

Don't let the 41 fool you either. We took 3 knees at their 2 yard line.

We called the dogs off in the 3rd quarter.

I really don't know what you're trying to argue this for.

There is no way you could even possibly spin this to make anyone think the outcome would have been different.

Also, of course I watched that massacre. It was fun. It was even better knowing we could have score 60 if we wanted.

(11-24-2014 05:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 05:29 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 05:25 PM)pesik Wrote:  Tigermaniac ECU is a better win than temple, the same way Houston is a better win than tulane,..so we'll cross that off right now and that isnt even a remote question...

and a loss to memphis (8-3) with your starting qb in a pass happy offense missing half the game, is a better a loss than to houston who is 6-4 ...

Even with Kiel in the game they managed 7 points an entire half which they got on the first play of the game. So the missing QB excuse doesn't make sense. He did nothing else.

As far as Temple and ECU goes. Temple beat ECU head to head. Which is what my comment stated. No one said it was better or worse.

did you watch the game, kiel was hitting qbs deep that game, including one that would have been a walk in TD, but the recievers dropped it aswell as many other drops, you can argue maybe memphis would have still won but it would have been a completely different game if he had played the full game

cincy at the time was a pure passing team and lost its qb..im not sure how that doesnt factor in ...especially for a team that is quick strick.
thats like saying it wouldnt have made a difference if USF had lost its qb white at halftime against tulsa, tulsa was up 27-7 at half, they only scored 7 the first half, tulsa was going to win (spoiler: USF won the game)

I believe that Memphis and the Bearcats are pretty evenly matched at this time in the season. That was an impressive performance Saturday night; total domination.

However, I don't understand what the argument is about the first game. Gunner played the entire first half. Regarding the second half, you need possession of the ball to score and by the 4th qtr, the Bearcat defense was just gassed and couldn't stop the Tiger running game.

Regarding the bolded/underlined; I'm not arguing that "maybe (M)emphis would have still won"; I'm saying that it's obvious who would have won the game. Brett Farve could have been the QB in the second half, but he doesn't help if he's sitting on his helmet watching for 13/15s of the 4th quarter.

Here is the play by play of the last 12:55 of the game:

http://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId...3&period=4

Memphis at 12:55 MEM UC
1st and 10 at MEM 14 Sam Craft run for 4 yds to the Memph 18 41 14
2nd and 6 at MEM 18 Sam Craft run for 2 yds to the Memph 20
3rd and 4 at MEM 20 Sam Craft run for 6 yds to the Memph 26 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at MEM 26 Mose Frazier run for 3 yds to the Memph 29
2nd and 7 at MEM 29 Sam Craft run for 5 yds to the Memph 34
3rd and 2 at MEM 34 Paxton Lynch run for 4 yds to the Memph 38 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at MEM 38 Sam Craft run for 5 yds to the Memph 43
2nd and 5 at MEM 43 Sam Craft run for 9 yds to the Cincy 48 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at CIN 48 Jarvis Cooper run for 6 yds to the Cincy 42
2nd and 4 at CIN 42 Jarvis Cooper run for 6 yds to the Cincy 36 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at CIN 36 Jarvis Cooper run for 1 yd to the Cincy 35
2nd and 9 at CIN 35 Jarvis Cooper run for 2 yds to the Cincy 33
3rd and 7 at CIN 33 Jarvis Cooper run for no gain to the Cincy 33
4th and 7 at CIN 33 Jason Stewart run for 14 yds to the Cincy 19 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at CIN 19 Jarvis Cooper run for 3 yds to the Cincy 16
2nd and 7 at CIN 16 Jarvis Cooper run for 5 yds to the Cincy 11
3rd and 2 at CIN 11 Jarvis Cooper run for 3 yds to the Cincy 8 for a 1ST down
1st and Goal at CIN 8 Jarvis Cooper run for 2 yds to the Cincy 6
2nd and Goal at CIN 6 TEAM run for a loss of 2 yards to the Cincy 8
3rd and Goal at CIN 8 TEAM run for a loss of 2 yards to the Cincy 10
End of 4th Quarter

Holy crap, can you stop reliving that game like it was the superbowl... Memphis was the better team and won. 11433583' dateline='1416880421']

(11-24-2014 05:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 05:29 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 05:25 PM)pesik Wrote:  Tigermaniac ECU is a better win than temple, the same way Houston is a better win than tulane,..so we'll cross that off right now and that isnt even a remote question...

and a loss to memphis (8-3) with your starting qb in a pass happy offense missing half the game, is a better a loss than to houston who is 6-4 ...

Even with Kiel in the game they managed 7 points an entire half which they got on the first play of the game. So the missing QB excuse doesn't make sense. He did nothing else.

As far as Temple and ECU goes. Temple beat ECU head to head. Which is what my comment stated. No one said it was better or worse.

did you watch the game, kiel was hitting qbs deep that game, including one that would have been a walk in TD, but the recievers dropped it aswell as many other drops, you can argue maybe memphis would have still won but it would have been a completely different game if he had played the full game

cincy at the time was a pure passing team and lost its qb..im not sure how that doesnt factor in ...especially for a team that is quick strick.
thats like saying it wouldnt have made a difference if USF had lost its qb white at halftime against tulsa, tulsa was up 27-7 at half, they only scored 7 the first half, tulsa was going to win (spoiler: USF won the game)

I believe that Memphis and the Bearcats are pretty evenly matched at this time in the season. That was an impressive performance Saturday night; total domination.

However, I don't understand what the argument is about the first game. Gunner played the entire first half. Regarding the second half, you need possession of the ball to score and by the 4th qtr, the Bearcat defense was just gassed and couldn't stop the Tiger running game.

Regarding the bolded/underlined; I'm not arguing that "maybe (M)emphis would have still won"; I'm saying that it's obvious who would have won the game. Brett Farve could have been the QB in the second half, but he doesn't help if he's sitting on his helmet watching for 13/15s of the 4th quarter.

Here is the play by play of the last 12:55 of the game:

http://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId...3&period=4

Memphis at 12:55 MEM UC
1st and 10 at MEM 14 Sam Craft run for 4 yds to the Memph 18 41 14
2nd and 6 at MEM 18 Sam Craft run for 2 yds to the Memph 20
3rd and 4 at MEM 20 Sam Craft run for 6 yds to the Memph 26 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at MEM 26 Mose Frazier run for 3 yds to the Memph 29
2nd and 7 at MEM 29 Sam Craft run for 5 yds to the Memph 34
3rd and 2 at MEM 34 Paxton Lynch run for 4 yds to the Memph 38 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at MEM 38 Sam Craft run for 5 yds to the Memph 43
2nd and 5 at MEM 43 Sam Craft run for 9 yds to the Cincy 48 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at CIN 48 Jarvis Cooper run for 6 yds to the Cincy 42
2nd and 4 at CIN 42 Jarvis Cooper run for 6 yds to the Cincy 36 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at CIN 36 Jarvis Cooper run for 1 yd to the Cincy 35
2nd and 9 at CIN 35 Jarvis Cooper run for 2 yds to the Cincy 33
3rd and 7 at CIN 33 Jarvis Cooper run for no gain to the Cincy 33
4th and 7 at CIN 33 Jason Stewart run for 14 yds to the Cincy 19 for a 1ST down
1st and 10 at CIN 19 Jarvis Cooper run for 3 yds to the Cincy 16
2nd and 7 at CIN 16 Jarvis Cooper run for 5 yds to the Cincy 11
3rd and 2 at CIN 11 Jarvis Cooper run for 3 yds to the Cincy 8 for a 1ST down
1st and Goal at CIN 8 Jarvis Cooper run for 2 yds to the Cincy 6
2nd and Goal at CIN 6 TEAM run for a loss of 2 yards to the Cincy 8
3rd and Goal at CIN 8 TEAM run for a loss of 2 yards to the Cincy 10
End of 4th Quarter
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Why does this keep coming up?
Memphis beat UC. On that day we got smoked. UC has really really come on strong, fixed a lot of issues, and turned the season around. We are different team today then when we played Memphis. Granted.

But to sit and speculate blah blah blah. When we played, we got bombed. Case closed.