Say It Ain't So Herbie

"Western Carolina quarterback Troy Mitchell became the first player in program history to surpass the 3,000-yard mark in a season in the game. Speir brought Mitchell's record up in response to Herbstreit's comments, saying "You tell me that ain't special.""

In all fairness, Herbie wouldn't know. He was only able to put up 2,437 yards. IN HIS CAREER.

Hmmmmm. I can probably think of 10 things that go on in college football that are worse than this.

Also... FCS teams most likely look forward to these games all year. They get to come in as an underdog, play loose because they have nothing to lose, and (as we've seen happen in the past) pull off the biggest upset of the season if they win. Maybe it's a dream come true for some of the players to play in these stadiums in front of SEC crowds. Not to mention they walk way with a boat load of money that quite literally funds their sports programs.

Don't understand how he is wrong here. I hate when Div 1A schedules 1AA at all. Play at your level.

(11-23-2014 10:36 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  Don't understand how he is wrong here. I hate when Div 1A schedules 1AA at all. Play at your level.

Yeah, P5 should only play other P5 schools.

(11-23-2014 10:41 AM)Enaiu Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 10:36 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  Don't understand how he is wrong here. I hate when Div 1A schedules 1AA at all. Play at your level.

Yeah, P5 should only play other P5 schools.

Distinct difference between P5 playing the G6 conferences and 1A schools playing 1AA schools.

Same reason I hate NIU playing teams like Aurora in BB. A "warm up" game should not count as a game.

I immediately thought this was a cell phone scandal ie Sean Salisbury

(11-23-2014 10:36 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  Don't understand how he is wrong here. I hate when Div 1A schedules 1AA at all. Play at your level.

It's about $$$. Those schools use the money to help their programs stay afloat. Good for them.

As for the article, this isn't Herbie in hot water. Most college fans won't even know about this.

(11-23-2014 09:40 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  Say It Ain't So Herbie

Hot water? What he said was exactly true. Just because some FCS coach took offensive doesn't change it.

(11-23-2014 11:13 AM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 09:40 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  Say It Ain't So Herbie

Hot water? What he said was exactly true. Just because some FCS coach took offensive doesn't change it.

You agree that it's the 'worst' thing in college football?

(11-23-2014 11:27 AM)Enaiu Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 11:13 AM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 09:40 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  Say It Ain't So Herbie

Hot water? What he said was exactly true. Just because some FCS coach took offensive doesn't change it.

You agree that it's the 'worst' thing in college football?

KH is a giant blowhole who leads the CFB elitist parade. I'll always dislike him after he went over the edge blasting NIU the orange bowl season - but don't get him wrong; "he loves MAC football"

That said, I lean towards agreeing with him that the late season de facto exhibition games are a bit silly. He is typically overstating when he says it's the worst thing in college football.

Herbie isn't content to report on the stories - he needs to be part of the story so he is going to bludgeon his point so we all talk about it.

(11-23-2014 12:03 PM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 11:27 AM)Enaiu Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 11:13 AM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 09:40 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  Say It Ain't So Herbie

Hot water? What he said was exactly true. Just because some FCS coach took offensive doesn't change it.

You agree that it's the 'worst' thing in college football?

KH is a giant blowhole who leads the CFB elitist parade. I'll always dislike him after he went over the edge blasting NIU the orange bowl season - but don't get him wrong; "he loves MAC football"

That said, I lean towards agreeing with him that the late season de facto exhibition games are a bit silly. He is typically overstating when he says it's the worst thing in college football.

Herbie isn't content to report on the stories - he needs to be part of the story so he is going to bludgeon his point so we all talk about it.

I think this was the reason it gathered any attention at all... Had he just said that 'he thought it was silly,' or 'I don't like it when they play lower level schools' I don't think it would have been as big of a deal. I understand viewpoints from both sides, and quite frankly, I don't enjoy watching NIU beat up on teams like Presby. I understand the cycle, though. Some teams depend on other teams like Alabama to pay them in order for their athletics department to survive.

Just another example of ESPN hypocrisy. Later in the day their own announcers were debating whether Ohio State beat Indiana by enough points or if the selection committee would think less of the Buckeyes for not dominating the game. If an Alabama, Auburn, etc. was supposed to go for "style points" to impress the committee, then that's easier to do against a lesser opponent. What exactly is the difference between the SEC playing a cupcake near the end of the season rather than the start of the season? IF the NCAA and ESPN actually wanted to alleviate this issue, the P5 schools would be required not only to play non-FCS programs, but be required to enter into at least a 2-for-1 with G5 schools. Unless it's a requirement, what incentive does a P5 have to change their scheduling. You pay someone to come to your place whether it's mid-November or early September so that you you have seven or eight of your 12 games at home and so that you can reap the ticket, parking, concession and TV revenue. Again, if I'm an SEC school and can get away with that, why wouldn't I. Herbs--t suggested they take a bye week rather than play a cupcake; if that's the case expand the playoffs and do away with bye weeks all together. Until P5 programs started scheduling prior to Labor Day and trying to fill the gap between the end of the season and the start of bowl games, schools managed to 11-game seasons in consecutive weeks.

I don't think the subject deserves the melodrama of being the "worst thing in college football", but I do think it is strange that the high profile SEC teams play FCS teams so late in the season. I noticed that as I was checking the scores on DirecTV this weekend. Perhaps it is just to reaffirm the superiority of FBS.

Early in the season, I can see why, as games vs FCS could be used as tune-up games.

So #10 Georgia beats Charleston Southern 55-9. As Jerry Springer would say, "What have we learned today?"

(11-24-2014 10:46 AM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  I don't think the subject deserves the melodrama of being the "worst thing in college football", but I do think it is strange that the high profile SEC teams play FCS teams so late in the season. I noticed that as I was checking the scores on DirecTV this weekend. Perhaps it is just to reaffirm the superiority of FBS.

Early in the season, I can see why, as games vs FCS could be used as tune-up games.

So #10 Georgia beats Charleston Southern 55-9. As Jerry Springer would say, "What have we learned today?"

I remember seeing a segment on ESPN last year about the SEC playing FCS teams late in the season. It's a conference strategy. After they play games against each other, the best SEC team(s) rise to the top of the Top 25 rankings more quickly. Then, by playing FCS late, they don't have to worry about losing and dropping in the rankings and maybe even move up more while other teams in the ranking are potentially losing in tougher games.

(11-24-2014 01:28 PM)NIUHuskie Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 10:46 AM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  I don't think the subject deserves the melodrama of being the "worst thing in college football", but I do think it is strange that the high profile SEC teams play FCS teams so late in the season. I noticed that as I was checking the scores on DirecTV this weekend. Perhaps it is just to reaffirm the superiority of FBS.

Early in the season, I can see why, as games vs FCS could be used as tune-up games.

So #10 Georgia beats Charleston Southern 55-9. As Jerry Springer would say, "What have we learned today?"

I remember seeing a segment on ESPN last year about the SEC playing FCS teams late in the season. It's a conference strategy. After they play games against each other, the best SEC team(s) rise to the top of the Top 25 rankings more quickly. Then, by playing FCS late, they don't have to worry about losing and dropping in the rankings and maybe even move up more while other teams in the ranking are potentially losing in tougher games.

Yep it's smart on their part. Plus it allows the teams to rest prior to the final big week of the season which is usually some sort of rivalry game. Egg & Iron Bowls. Florida-FSU. Georgia-GA Tech. SCarolina-Clemson