They are trying like hell to get him through this season. I'd bet the minute they lose a game or the season is over, stuff is gonna come out of the wood work. Terrell Pryor ain't got chit on this dude. I'd bet money he will do permanent damage to the Noles before it's over.

Can't believe this thread has gone three pages with nobody providing the video or a link.

(11-23-2014 01:07 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:28 AM)correcamino Wrote:  Winston's ref pushing aint got chit on our ref pushing.

Haha. I agree. Your guy threw the ref to the ground I could not beleive what I saw

The ref got slightly pushed and the ref did a Vlade Divac imitation.

(11-23-2014 10:23 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 01:12 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  I don't know if you have seen that but good lord why was he not ejected and jimbo fisher is a dirty SOB for defending him saying its innocent. Man those noles are a$$holes

you guys are acting like he raped someone and then they covered it all up


--- oh wait

rape is no joke . But seriously though FSU needs to contain this **** called winston if not NCAA needs to tie holes and noles in their investigation. ACC is a friggin mess.

I mean...there's a reason no NFL fans want him on their team.

This guys is a full blow train wreck. The longer they enable him by letting him get away with all the things he has done the worse off he will be as a person. When I think of him, I think of how Maurice Clarrett was at Ohio State. The only difference is that Ohio State cut its losses.

In fairness to Winston the ref was in the wrong place. What the heck was the ref trying to do anyway?

(11-23-2014 01:27 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Damn I hope the Titans don't draft Shameis

Titans need way more help than at QB, if they draft Jameis, I may have to turn my Titans fan card in, haha

What is up with UTSA's 91? That guy was hot head, I don't think I have witnessed a more intentional shove to a ref in college fball game before..Is he a senior? If so I guess that was his last game and he wanted to go out in style...

Is there any video of the UTSA guy shoving the official ?

(11-24-2014 02:04 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  In fairness to Winston the ref was in the wrong place. What the heck was the ref trying to do anyway?

His job?

An official is instructed to stand over the ball to prevent the offense from snapping it until the defense has sufficient time to match the offense's substitutions.

We were actually penalized at GT a few years back for snapping it too early.

(11-24-2014 02:24 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 02:04 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  In fairness to Winston the ref was in the wrong place. What the heck was the ref trying to do anyway?

His job?

An official is instructed to stand over the ball to prevent the offense from snapping it until the defense has sufficient time to match the offense's substitutions.

We were actually penalized at GT a few years back for snapping it too early.

But you missed the point of what he was saying. The ref was not standing over the ball. He was standing between the QB and the Center. I question that too.

(11-24-2014 02:24 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 02:04 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  In fairness to Winston the ref was in the wrong place. What the heck was the ref trying to do anyway?

His job?

An official is instructed to stand over the ball to prevent the offense from snapping it until the defense has sufficient time to match the offense's substitutions.

We were actually penalized at GT a few years back for snapping it too early.

And I'll be damned if we didn't score a touchdown and they called it back. They would never have thrown the flag against Tech (if they had been the team snapping "early").

(11-24-2014 03:03 PM)BRBrian Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 02:24 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 02:04 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  In fairness to Winston the ref was in the wrong place. What the heck was the ref trying to do anyway?

His job?

An official is instructed to stand over the ball to prevent the offense from snapping it until the defense has sufficient time to match the offense's substitutions.

We were actually penalized at GT a few years back for snapping it too early.

But you missed the point of what he was saying. The ref was not standing over the ball. He was standing between the QB and the Center. I question that too.

There was an explanation I read somewhere that it had something to do with an extra ref or something. The thing is, out of position or not, the ref was attempting to do his job and Jameis just pushed him out of his way.

Fair or not, his past shenanigans have put this under the microscope.

Here is video of UTSA's Number 91 shoving ref...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KuUIc4NB2_o...e=youtu.be

(11-24-2014 03:03 PM)BRBrian Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 02:24 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 02:04 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  In fairness to Winston the ref was in the wrong place. What the heck was the ref trying to do anyway?

His job?

An official is instructed to stand over the ball to prevent the offense from snapping it until the defense has sufficient time to match the offense's substitutions.

We were actually penalized at GT a few years back for snapping it too early.

But you missed the point of what he was saying. The ref was not standing over the ball. He was standing between the QB and the Center. I question that too.

That's the refs job. He didn't have time to get in position because the center got there before him.

(11-24-2014 04:02 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Here is video of UTSA's Number 91 shoving ref...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KuUIc4NB2_o...e=youtu.be

geez that 91 kid needs some damn self control

One thing I didn't know at first was that in bigger games they now have an 8 man crew instead of the normal 7. If it was a normal 7, the umpire would be standing over the ball from the D side of things holding it up but w/ the 8 man crews that duty is now done by the ref in the backfield hence why he was "in the way". I can understand JW in the heat of the moment saying "get out of my way" to the ref as it's not something normally encountered but still should've been a flag based on the current rule. I'd imagine that this will be an issue discussed in the offseason to ready players & the refs will learn how to handle this situation better w/ maybe sending the ref back from the D side as normal again.

(11-24-2014 04:57 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  One thing I didn't know at first was that in bigger games they now have an 8 man crew instead of the normal 7. If it was a normal 7, the umpire would be standing over the ball from the D side of things holding it up but w/ the 8 man crews that duty is now done by the ref in the backfield hence why he was "in the way". I can understand JW in the heat of the moment saying "get out of my way" to the ref as it's not something normally encountered but still should've been a flag based on the current rule. I'd imagine that this will be an issue discussed in the offseason to ready players & the refs will learn how to handle this situation better w/ maybe sending the ref back from the D side as normal again.

I thought all games had 8 men

(11-24-2014 04:02 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Here is video of UTSA's Number 91 shoving ref...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KuUIc4NB2_o...e=youtu.be

That is freaking hilarious

(11-24-2014 04:58 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 04:57 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  One thing I didn't know at first was that in bigger games they now have an 8 man crew instead of the normal 7. If it was a normal 7, the umpire would be standing over the ball from the D side of things holding it up but w/ the 8 man crews that duty is now done by the ref in the backfield hence why he was "in the way". I can understand JW in the heat of the moment saying "get out of my way" to the ref as it's not something normally encountered but still should've been a flag based on the current rule. I'd imagine that this will be an issue discussed in the offseason to ready players & the refs will learn how to handle this situation better w/ maybe sending the ref back from the D side as normal again.

I thought all games had 8 men

I was listening to one of the sports shows late Sun night & it mentioned about the 7 & 8 men crews on premium games when it was talking about the incident. Below is a link about the crews & duties but the ref in question had a C w/ a number on his back so he was something additional. Not sure if it is just ACC or NCAA as a whole that has this 8 man crew thing. It was the first I'd heard of it myself

http://www.cornnation.com/2010/9/1/16645...e-football