(11-23-2014 12:53 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  It must be insufferable. If UAB loses their football team I am hoping CUSA throws you guys a life line and gets you out of this dumpster fire.

This comes from a fan of a school that lost to McNeese State at home to kickoff the 2012 season.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-12/sun-b...hedule.php

(11-23-2014 04:31 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:53 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  It must be insufferable. If UAB loses their football team I am hoping CUSA throws you guys a life line and gets you out of this dumpster fire.

This comes from a fan of a school that lost to McNeese State at home to kickoff the 2012 season.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-12/sun-b...hedule.php

Eh. He's just nervous. The two new members have added significant value to the Sun Belt conference. Obviously more value than any in the last realignment.

No one let us win anything. This proves who is the best team in the league.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/conf...conference

(11-23-2014 03:57 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:27 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:40 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:17 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:14 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  I think the committee will bypass Marshall. If Marshall gets an access bowl bid it will be a joke considering their schedule. I almost hope they do because they will get smoked and then the USA people can let it go.

You sound like a P5 fan.

Not even close. Just tired of all the CUSA grandstanding (not aimed at you). Marshall just hasn't earned the bid. When Boise and NIU went, they had good OOC wins. Marshall played 3 Mac schools and an FCS non-conference. I guess we will see if the committee is impressed.

I understand what you're saying, but in eleven games they've been legitimately challenged once.

In 2006(Fiesta Bowl) yes Boise beat Oregon State(10-4) by four touchdowns, they also beat Wyoming(6-6) by 7, NMSU(4-8) by 12, and SJSU(9-4) by 3.

In 2009(Fiesta Bowl) yes Boise beat Oregon(10-3, infamous Blount punch game) they also beat Tulsa(3-9) by 7, Louisiana Tech(4-8) by 10, and Nevada(8-5) by 11.


You're buying into the P5 mentality of because they haven't played anyone, they couldn't possibly play with anyone.

Can you honestly say that if stAte found themselves in the same position you'd just be accepting that you "didn't earn it" and would get "smoked" in the access bowl?

I don't recall stAte ever playing an OOC schedule as easy as Marshalls this year. Maybe we should. Maybe we wouldn't get beat up so bad. None of the MAC teams Marshall beat are .500. I hope stAte gets a chance some day but I think it will have to come after a perfect SBC season and knocking off a couple of big schools.

Most of us schedule OOC games with P5 schools a few years in advance, so it takes a lot of luck to catch one of them on a down year. When it happens, and a G5 team adds a P5 scalp to it's collection, it helps tremendously in the rankings. A close loss to a P5 power just doesn't have the same effect.

(11-23-2014 08:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:57 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:27 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:40 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:17 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  You sound like a P5 fan.

Not even close. Just tired of all the CUSA grandstanding (not aimed at you). Marshall just hasn't earned the bid. When Boise and NIU went, they had good OOC wins. Marshall played 3 Mac schools and an FCS non-conference. I guess we will see if the committee is impressed.

I understand what you're saying, but in eleven games they've been legitimately challenged once.

In 2006(Fiesta Bowl) yes Boise beat Oregon State(10-4) by four touchdowns, they also beat Wyoming(6-6) by 7, NMSU(4-8) by 12, and SJSU(9-4) by 3.

In 2009(Fiesta Bowl) yes Boise beat Oregon(10-3, infamous Blount punch game) they also beat Tulsa(3-9) by 7, Louisiana Tech(4-8) by 10, and Nevada(8-5) by 11.


You're buying into the P5 mentality of because they haven't played anyone, they couldn't possibly play with anyone.

Can you honestly say that if stAte found themselves in the same position you'd just be accepting that you "didn't earn it" and would get "smoked" in the access bowl?

I don't recall stAte ever playing an OOC schedule as easy as Marshalls this year. Maybe we should. Maybe we wouldn't get beat up so bad. None of the MAC teams Marshall beat are .500. I hope stAte gets a chance some day but I think it will have to come after a perfect SBC season and knocking off a couple of big schools.

Most of us schedule OOC games with P5 schools a few years in advance, so it takes a lot of luck to catch one of them on a down year. When it happens, and a G5 team adds a P5 scalp to it's collection, it helps tremendously in the rankings. A close loss to a P5 power just doesn't have the same effect.

Yes, but Marshall did not play a single P5 school. That takes a concerted effort to avoid them.

(11-23-2014 08:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:57 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:27 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:40 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  Not even close. Just tired of all the CUSA grandstanding (not aimed at you). Marshall just hasn't earned the bid. When Boise and NIU went, they had good OOC wins. Marshall played 3 Mac schools and an FCS non-conference. I guess we will see if the committee is impressed.

I understand what you're saying, but in eleven games they've been legitimately challenged once.

In 2006(Fiesta Bowl) yes Boise beat Oregon State(10-4) by four touchdowns, they also beat Wyoming(6-6) by 7, NMSU(4-8) by 12, and SJSU(9-4) by 3.

In 2009(Fiesta Bowl) yes Boise beat Oregon(10-3, infamous Blount punch game) they also beat Tulsa(3-9) by 7, Louisiana Tech(4-8) by 10, and Nevada(8-5) by 11.


You're buying into the P5 mentality of because they haven't played anyone, they couldn't possibly play with anyone.

Can you honestly say that if stAte found themselves in the same position you'd just be accepting that you "didn't earn it" and would get "smoked" in the access bowl?

I don't recall stAte ever playing an OOC schedule as easy as Marshalls this year. Maybe we should. Maybe we wouldn't get beat up so bad. None of the MAC teams Marshall beat are .500. I hope stAte gets a chance some day but I think it will have to come after a perfect SBC season and knocking off a couple of big schools.

Most of us schedule OOC games with P5 schools a few years in advance, so it takes a lot of luck to catch one of them on a down year. When it happens, and a G5 team adds a P5 scalp to it's collection, it helps tremendously in the rankings. A close loss to a P5 power just doesn't have the same effect.

Yes, but Marshall did not play a single P5 school. That takes a concerted effort to avoid them.

And they avoid the P5 again in 2015. It appears they are essentially ineligible for the G-5 auto bid until 2016. Marshall put themselves on G5 auto bid probation with their scheduling.

(11-23-2014 08:42 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  And they avoid the P5 again in 2015. It appears they are essentially ineligible for the G-5 auto bid until 2016. Marshall put themselves on G5 auto bid probation with their scheduling.

We open the 2015 season against Purdue at home. Did Purdue get kicked out of the Big Ten?

Louisville was scheduled to play in Huntington this year, but requested to move the date back to 2016. Not much you can do scheduling wise with less than 200 days notice.

Marshall had a game with Louisville this year that was a casualty of Louisville's nine game ACC schedule.

(11-23-2014 08:44 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:42 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  And they avoid the P5 again in 2015. It appears they are essentially ineligible for the G-5 auto bid until 2016. Marshall put themselves on G5 auto bid probation with their scheduling.

We open the 2015 season against Purdue at home. Did Purdue get kicked out of the Big Ten?

Louisville was scheduled to play in Huntington this year, but requested to move the date back to 2016. Not much you can do scheduling wise with less than 200 days notice.

You are correct, but Purdue has been very bad lately. I'm not sure how much beating them will help, but at least you get P5 credit if you win.

(11-23-2014 08:42 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:57 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:27 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I understand what you're saying, but in eleven games they've been legitimately challenged once.

In 2006(Fiesta Bowl) yes Boise beat Oregon State(10-4) by four touchdowns, they also beat Wyoming(6-6) by 7, NMSU(4-8) by 12, and SJSU(9-4) by 3.

In 2009(Fiesta Bowl) yes Boise beat Oregon(10-3, infamous Blount punch game) they also beat Tulsa(3-9) by 7, Louisiana Tech(4-8) by 10, and Nevada(8-5) by 11.


You're buying into the P5 mentality of because they haven't played anyone, they couldn't possibly play with anyone.

Can you honestly say that if stAte found themselves in the same position you'd just be accepting that you "didn't earn it" and would get "smoked" in the access bowl?

I don't recall stAte ever playing an OOC schedule as easy as Marshalls this year. Maybe we should. Maybe we wouldn't get beat up so bad. None of the MAC teams Marshall beat are .500. I hope stAte gets a chance some day but I think it will have to come after a perfect SBC season and knocking off a couple of big schools.

Most of us schedule OOC games with P5 schools a few years in advance, so it takes a lot of luck to catch one of them on a down year. When it happens, and a G5 team adds a P5 scalp to it's collection, it helps tremendously in the rankings. A close loss to a P5 power just doesn't have the same effect.

Yes, but Marshall did not play a single P5 school. That takes a concerted effort to avoid them.

And they avoid the P5 again in 2015. It appears they are essentially ineligible for the G-5 auto bid until 2016. Marshall put themselves on G5 auto bid probation with their scheduling.

Do you know something we don't about the Access Bowl this year?

(11-23-2014 08:50 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:42 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:57 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  I don't recall stAte ever playing an OOC schedule as easy as Marshalls this year. Maybe we should. Maybe we wouldn't get beat up so bad. None of the MAC teams Marshall beat are .500. I hope stAte gets a chance some day but I think it will have to come after a perfect SBC season and knocking off a couple of big schools.

Most of us schedule OOC games with P5 schools a few years in advance, so it takes a lot of luck to catch one of them on a down year. When it happens, and a G5 team adds a P5 scalp to it's collection, it helps tremendously in the rankings. A close loss to a P5 power just doesn't have the same effect.

Yes, but Marshall did not play a single P5 school. That takes a concerted effort to avoid them.

And they avoid the P5 again in 2015. It appears they are essentially ineligible for the G-5 auto bid until 2016. Marshall put themselves on G5 auto bid probation with their scheduling.

Do you know something we don't about the Access Bowl this year?

It is an interesting thought. if Marshall doesn't make the Access Bowl this year, one would assume that they would likely be in the same predicament next year with an insanely week schedule.

(11-23-2014 08:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:57 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:27 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 02:40 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  Not even close. Just tired of all the CUSA grandstanding (not aimed at you). Marshall just hasn't earned the bid. When Boise and NIU went, they had good OOC wins. Marshall played 3 Mac schools and an FCS non-conference. I guess we will see if the committee is impressed.

I understand what you're saying, but in eleven games they've been legitimately challenged once.

In 2006(Fiesta Bowl) yes Boise beat Oregon State(10-4) by four touchdowns, they also beat Wyoming(6-6) by 7, NMSU(4-8) by 12, and SJSU(9-4) by 3.

In 2009(Fiesta Bowl) yes Boise beat Oregon(10-3, infamous Blount punch game) they also beat Tulsa(3-9) by 7, Louisiana Tech(4-8) by 10, and Nevada(8-5) by 11.


You're buying into the P5 mentality of because they haven't played anyone, they couldn't possibly play with anyone.

Can you honestly say that if stAte found themselves in the same position you'd just be accepting that you "didn't earn it" and would get "smoked" in the access bowl?

I don't recall stAte ever playing an OOC schedule as easy as Marshalls this year. Maybe we should. Maybe we wouldn't get beat up so bad. None of the MAC teams Marshall beat are .500. I hope stAte gets a chance some day but I think it will have to come after a perfect SBC season and knocking off a couple of big schools.

Most of us schedule OOC games with P5 schools a few years in advance, so it takes a lot of luck to catch one of them on a down year. When it happens, and a G5 team adds a P5 scalp to it's collection, it helps tremendously in the rankings. A close loss to a P5 power just doesn't have the same effect.

Yes, but Marshall did not play a single P5 school. That takes a concerted effort to avoid them.

Marshall actually had Louisville scheduled for this year, but Louisville exercised its option to get out of the game when they moved to the ACC. I know Marshall's schedule lacks a P5 opponent, and that fact may cost them the access bowl spot, I just don't think it will. If they go undefeated and win the CUSA Championship Game, I think they'll get in. If La Tech beats Rice this week, we'll get to play the Herd in the CCG. I trust I can count on all of you to be pulling for us in that one.

(11-23-2014 08:50 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:42 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:57 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  I don't recall stAte ever playing an OOC schedule as easy as Marshalls this year. Maybe we should. Maybe we wouldn't get beat up so bad. None of the MAC teams Marshall beat are .500. I hope stAte gets a chance some day but I think it will have to come after a perfect SBC season and knocking off a couple of big schools.

Most of us schedule OOC games with P5 schools a few years in advance, so it takes a lot of luck to catch one of them on a down year. When it happens, and a G5 team adds a P5 scalp to it's collection, it helps tremendously in the rankings. A close loss to a P5 power just doesn't have the same effect.

Yes, but Marshall did not play a single P5 school. That takes a concerted effort to avoid them.

And they avoid the P5 again in 2015. It appears they are essentially ineligible for the G-5 auto bid until 2016. Marshall put themselves on G5 auto bid probation with their scheduling.

Do you know something we don't about the Access Bowl this year?

Hate it for Marshall because they are a good team, but it does not appear the committee will reward a team with a bad schedule. I guess we will have a better idea of how the committee works after this year.

(11-23-2014 08:52 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:30 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:57 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:27 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I understand what you're saying, but in eleven games they've been legitimately challenged once.

In 2006(Fiesta Bowl) yes Boise beat Oregon State(10-4) by four touchdowns, they also beat Wyoming(6-6) by 7, NMSU(4-8) by 12, and SJSU(9-4) by 3.

In 2009(Fiesta Bowl) yes Boise beat Oregon(10-3, infamous Blount punch game) they also beat Tulsa(3-9) by 7, Louisiana Tech(4-8) by 10, and Nevada(8-5) by 11.


You're buying into the P5 mentality of because they haven't played anyone, they couldn't possibly play with anyone.

Can you honestly say that if stAte found themselves in the same position you'd just be accepting that you "didn't earn it" and would get "smoked" in the access bowl?

I don't recall stAte ever playing an OOC schedule as easy as Marshalls this year. Maybe we should. Maybe we wouldn't get beat up so bad. None of the MAC teams Marshall beat are .500. I hope stAte gets a chance some day but I think it will have to come after a perfect SBC season and knocking off a couple of big schools.

Most of us schedule OOC games with P5 schools a few years in advance, so it takes a lot of luck to catch one of them on a down year. When it happens, and a G5 team adds a P5 scalp to it's collection, it helps tremendously in the rankings. A close loss to a P5 power just doesn't have the same effect.

Yes, but Marshall did not play a single P5 school. That takes a concerted effort to avoid them.

Marshall actually had Louisville scheduled for this year, but Louisville exercised its option to get out of the game when they moved to the ACC. I know Marshall's schedule lacks a P5 opponent, and that fact may cost them the access bowl spot, I just don't think it will. If they go undefeated and win the CUSA Championship Game, I think they'll get in. If La Tech beats Rice this week, we'll get to play the Herd in the CCG. I trust I can count on all of you to be pulling for us in that one.

"Lets Go Sinkhole Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap."

I believe the committee will use this year to send a message, if you don't schedule a P5 you don't get a shot.

(11-23-2014 08:55 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I believe the committee will use this year to send a message, if you don't schedule a P5 you don't get a shot.

It's kinda unfortunate Bc going undefeated is ridiculously hard regardless of the schedule. There should always be one or two teams to trip you up.

Do you guys already know the score too?

(11-23-2014 03:18 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  There are 6 access bowls.

Just to clarify something a few pages back, there are not 6 "Access" Bowls.... there are 6 New Years Bowls in the playoff rotation, but there are only 3 Access Bowls.

The "Access Bowl" terminology comes from the original announcement of the new playoff/bowl format. The six games in the playoff rotation will include three "contract bowls" and three "access bowls." When not hosting the national semifinals, the spots in the contract bowls are reserved for conferences that have specific deals with those bowls. The contract bowls are Rose (Pac-12 versus Big Ten), Sugar (SEC versus Big 12) and Orange (ACC versus Big Ten, SEC or Notre Dame).

The spots in the remaining three access or "host" bowls (Fiesta, Cotton and Peach) are available to be filled by the committee, with at least one spot guaranteed for the top rated champion from the "Group of 5" conferences (yes, that Group of 5 language also comes from the original announcement).

So, basically, the "Access Bowls" are the New Years Six Bowl Games (other than the Rose, Sugar, or Orange which are contractually tied down to specific conference when not hosting the national semifinals) that the at-large teams and the G5 Representative are able to access. So, that means short of being in the 4 team playoff, you will never see a G5 rep in the Rose, Sugar, or Orange Bowls.

(11-23-2014 03:47 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:31 PM)Eaglessoar2014 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:59 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  /looks at FAU-MTSU score

LOL

Florida Atl-34
(3-8, 2-5 C-USA)


Middle Tennessee-35
(6-5, 5-2 C-USA)

Middle Tennessee rallies by Florida Atlantic 35-34

We barely beat Georgia state...so what?

Navy - 52
Georgia Southern - 19
(7-0 SBC)

WKU - 36
(3-4 CUSA)
Navy - 27

Double so what?

I am not downing SBC by the above information as I have a lot of respect for SBC football and miss not playing SBC football anymore. It was intended solely for the Eagle fans who can not read anything, whether it directly concerns them or not, without gloating or insulting.

SBC football and CUSA football both have good teams and bad teams, good fans and obnoxious jerk fans.

We can all agree (I think) that we are all paddling along in our canoe while hoping to not be run over by the P5 yacht that not only won't throw us a life preserver but drilled holes in the bottom of our boat.

(11-24-2014 10:51 AM)Jacque Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:47 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 03:31 PM)Eaglessoar2014 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:59 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  /looks at FAU-MTSU score

LOL

Florida Atl-34
(3-8, 2-5 C-USA)


Middle Tennessee-35
(6-5, 5-2 C-USA)

Middle Tennessee rallies by Florida Atlantic 35-34

We barely beat Georgia state...so what?

Navy - 52
Georgia Southern - 19
(7-0 SBC)

WKU - 36
(3-4 CUSA)
Navy - 27

Double so what?

I am not downing SBC by the above information as I have a lot of respect for SBC football and miss not playing SBC football anymore. It was intended solely for the Eagle fans who can not read anything, whether it directly concerns them or not, without gloating or insulting.

SBC football and CUSA football both have good teams and bad teams, good fans and obnoxious jerk fans.

We can all agree (I think) that we are all paddling along in our canoe while hoping to not be run over by the P5 yacht that not only won't throw us a life preserver but drilled holes in the bottom of our boat.

And instead of helping each other out, we're doing our best to drown the other.