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(11-22-2014 08:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
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(11-22-2014 02:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  looks like the SEC will add bowl teams #9 and #10 with FL and SC about to win....

TN should be #11 before the season ends.

Looks like Arkansas is about to roll Ole Miss and also become bowl eligible. Looks like BHam will get an SEC team after all.

Memphis vs Arkansas in Birmingham...book it.

I wouldn't want to face Arkansas. Look at their schedule and results. They've played everybody tough. The last 3 weeks against MSU, LSU & Ole Miss they've given up just 17 points with 2 shutouts.

I didn't say I want to, I said that's who I think we'll get...

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On a SN..how far is Notre Dame going to fall. Will they get one of the ACC selections?
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Question. Could AAC have a team left out. We have 5 tie ins and potentially 6 bowl teams. What are the options for temple assuming they get bowl eligible. Independence and what else. What if there is no opening in the independence bowl.
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(11-23-2014 01:12 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Question. Could AAC have a team left out. We have 5 tie ins and potentially 6 bowl teams. What are the options for temple assuming they get bowl eligible. Independence and what else. What if there is no opening in the independence bowl.

It would depend on if other conferences had more bowl contracts than eligible teams. I haven't checked all the W-L records or all the bowl tie-ins, but I would hope Temple could get a slot somewhere. I thought last summer we were worried about bowls not having enough teams to fill all the slots.
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(11-23-2014 02:11 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-23-2014 01:12 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Question. Could AAC have a team left out. We have 5 tie ins and potentially 6 bowl teams. What are the options for temple assuming they get bowl eligible. Independence and what else. What if there is no opening in the independence bowl.

It would depend on if other conferences had more bowl contracts than eligible teams. I haven't checked all the W-L records or all the bowl tie-ins, but I would hope Temple could get a slot somewhere. I thought last summer we were worried about bowls not having enough teams to fill all the slots.

The gamble of the selling of the the Bahama's bowl could really come back and bite the AAC. BYU has a subpar year. There looks to be P5 teams that will need an at-large bid and the backup deals are falling short for the AAC. The only AAC back-ups I know are Memphis and Indy are backup bowls. Those appear gone. Are they are any others?

ACC - 11 Teams with 10 Bowl slots guaranteed. Possible 12th if Pitt beats Miami.
SEC - 11 Teams with 9 Bowl slots guaranteed. Likely 12th and possibly 13th team.
PAC - 8 Teams with 7 Bowl Slots. Possible 9th if Call beat BYU.
B1G - 10 Teams with 9 bowl slots. Detroit Backup MAC, HOD backup ?
B12 - 6 teams with 7 Bowl Slots. OSU needs to be OK to be seventh.

SunBelt 4 teams with 3 Slots
CUSA - 6 teams with 5 slots possible 7th if UAB beats So Miss.
MAC - 5 Bowl teams with 5 Slots. Possible 6th or 7th if Ohio beast Miami, Akron beats Kent. Back up with Detroit.
MWC - 6 bowl teams with 6 Slots. Possible 7th if Fresno beats Hawaii.

It looks like Armed Forces and Dallas Bowl will need backups but I have no idea if those are at large or contracted. AF is an AAC bowl, so it appears HOD would be the only place an AAC could land.

It appears their could be P5 at-large needed. In addition, if not contracted, the all the 7-5 teams get preference over 6-6 at large. It could get very interesting to see who stays home even being Bowl eligible.
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(11-22-2014 07:59 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
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(11-22-2014 02:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  looks like the SEC will add bowl teams #9 and #10 with FL and SC about to win....

TN should be #11 before the season ends.

Looks like Arkansas is about to roll Ole Miss and also become bowl eligible. Looks like BHam will get an SEC team after all.

Memphis vs Arkansas in Birmingham...book it.

Birmingham is SEC #8 or #9 vs AAC champ correct? Although I absolutely love the match-up for you guys, I'm thinking a better SEC team could be available with them having 12 teams bowl eligible. Ole Miss?--They've been slipping fast. I know it sounds crazy but I can see them losing 2 more and falling to this bowl. If Tennessee wins 1 more then they'd be a great match-up for you as well.... Now if it's ECU in the Birmingham, I WANT FLORIDA!!!!

No, the AAC champion is not slotted to any particular bowl. The AAC champion (if not selected for the G5 slot) is just another bowl eligible team. There is no tie in for our champion.
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Bahamas Bowl has apparently been a mess and a nightmare planning wise. I'm glad we so far we dumped it.
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(11-23-2014 08:24 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  
(11-23-2014 02:11 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-23-2014 01:12 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Question. Could AAC have a team left out. We have 5 tie ins and potentially 6 bowl teams. What are the options for temple assuming they get bowl eligible. Independence and what else. What if there is no opening in the independence bowl.

It would depend on if other conferences had more bowl contracts than eligible teams. I haven't checked all the W-L records or all the bowl tie-ins, but I would hope Temple could get a slot somewhere. I thought last summer we were worried about bowls not having enough teams to fill all the slots.

The gamble of the selling of the the Bahama's bowl could really come back and bite the AAC. BYU has a subpar year. There looks to be P5 teams that will need an at-large bid and the backup deals are falling short for the AAC. The only AAC back-ups I know are Memphis and Indy are backup bowls. Those appear gone. Are they are any others?

ACC - 11 Teams with 10 Bowl slots guaranteed. Possible 12th if Pitt beats Miami.
SEC - 11 Teams with 9 Bowl slots guaranteed. Likely 12th and possibly 13th team.
PAC - 8 Teams with 7 Bowl Slots. Possible 9th if Call beat BYU.
B1G - 10 Teams with 9 bowl slots. Detroit Backup MAC, HOD backup ?
B12 - 6 teams with 7 Bowl Slots. OSU needs to be OK to be seventh.

SunBelt 4 teams with 3 Slots
CUSA - 6 teams with 5 slots possible 7th if UAB beats So Miss.
MAC - 5 Bowl teams with 5 Slots. Possible 6th or 7th if Ohio beast Miami, Akron beats Kent. Back up with Detroit.
MWC - 6 bowl teams with 6 Slots. Possible 7th if Fresno beats Hawaii.

It looks like Armed Forces and Dallas Bowl will need backups but I have no idea if those are at large or contracted. AF is an AAC bowl, so it appears HOD would be the only place an AAC could land.

It appears their could be P5 at-large needed. In addition, if not contracted, the all the 7-5 teams get preference over 6-6 at large. It could get very interesting to see who stays home even being Bowl eligible.

Question. You are only showing 61 bowl slots in your example. If you add the 5 from the AAC, that is 66 total slots, or 33 bowl games.

I thought several new bowls were added this year, for a total of somewhere between 37 and 39 bowl games, so that would be 74 to 78 slots, not 66. No?
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(11-23-2014 11:15 AM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  Bahamas Bowl has apparently been a mess and a nightmare planning wise. I'm glad we so far we dumped it.

I bet Temple isn't...I'm sure a 6-6 Temple would love a Bahamas trip to end this season.
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(11-23-2014 01:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-23-2014 08:24 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  
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(11-23-2014 01:12 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Question. Could AAC have a team left out. We have 5 tie ins and potentially 6 bowl teams. What are the options for temple assuming they get bowl eligible. Independence and what else. What if there is no opening in the independence bowl.

It would depend on if other conferences had more bowl contracts than eligible teams. I haven't checked all the W-L records or all the bowl tie-ins, but I would hope Temple could get a slot somewhere. I thought last summer we were worried about bowls not having enough teams to fill all the slots.

The gamble of the selling of the the Bahama's bowl could really come back and bite the AAC. BYU has a subpar year. There looks to be P5 teams that will need an at-large bid and the backup deals are falling short for the AAC. The only AAC back-ups I know are Memphis and Indy are backup bowls. Those appear gone. Are they are any others?

ACC - 11 Teams with 10 Bowl slots guaranteed. Possible 12th if Pitt beats Miami.
SEC - 11 Teams with 9 Bowl slots guaranteed. Likely 12th and possibly 13th team.
PAC - 8 Teams with 7 Bowl Slots. Possible 9th if Call beat BYU.
B1G - 10 Teams with 9 bowl slots. Detroit Backup MAC, HOD backup ?
B12 - 6 teams with 7 Bowl Slots. OSU needs to be OK to be seventh.

SunBelt 4 teams with 3 Slots
CUSA - 6 teams with 5 slots possible 7th if UAB beats So Miss.
MAC - 5 Bowl teams with 5 Slots. Possible 6th or 7th if Ohio beast Miami, Akron beats Kent. Back up with Detroit.
MWC - 6 bowl teams with 6 Slots. Possible 7th if Fresno beats Hawaii.

It looks like Armed Forces and Dallas Bowl will need backups but I have no idea if those are at large or contracted. AF is an AAC bowl, so it appears HOD would be the only place an AAC could land.

It appears their could be P5 at-large needed. In addition, if not contracted, the all the 7-5 teams get preference over 6-6 at large. It could get very interesting to see who stays home even being Bowl eligible.

Question. You are only showing 61 bowl slots in your example. If you add the 5 from the AAC, that is 66 total slots, or 33 bowl games.

I thought several new bowls were added this year, for a total of somewhere between 37 and 39 bowl games, so that would be 74 to 78 slots, not 66. No?

don't a couple get claimed by the playoff?
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Did not include G5 only bowls. There was much talk especially from one conference fan base that there would not be enough P5 teams to fill out their bowl slots opening the door for G5 teams. It is not turning out this way for this season. There will be more than enough bowl teams and some teams will be sitting home with no place to go. For example, the AAC gave up a spot in the Bahama's bowl to get BYU for Miami. Temple could now be on the short end as the 6th AAC team with no where to go. Again, not blaming the AAC, it was a good gamble at the time but now it may cost them a slot for their conference. Just not what the AAC wanted in their first G5 year and Aersco claiming it should be in the Power Conferences.
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(11-23-2014 03:25 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Did not include G5 only bowls. There was much talk especially from one conference fan base that there would not be enough P5 teams to fill out their bowl slots opening the door for G5 teams. It is not turning out this way for this season. There will be more than enough bowl teams and some teams will be sitting home with no place to go. For example, the AAC gave up a spot in the Bahama's bowl to get BYU for Miami. Temple could now be on the short end as the 6th AAC team with no where to go. Again, not blaming the AAC, it was a good gamble at the time but now it may cost them a slot for their conference. Just not what the AAC wanted in their first G5 year and Aersco claiming it should be in the Power Conferences.

I can't stand Aresco and everyone on here knows it BUT he never would've predicted that BYU would be as bad as they are, and everyone was talking down the Bahamas Bowl at the time. It was a good gamble to take at the time. Your quote "Just not what the AAC wanted in their first G5 year and Aersco claiming it should be in the Power Conferences."--Yes, this was not the season for Mr Commish to point to as proof of AAC inclusion in the C5.
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And we get 6 bowls after this year.
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(11-23-2014 04:13 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  And we get 6 bowls after this year.

Actually 7 with the Cure Bowl added if the AAC does not sell off another bowl for a Miami opponent. AAC should not sell the slot unless it can get ESPN to give them a better time slot than a Monday 2pm slot when everyone is at work.
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(11-23-2014 07:55 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  
(11-23-2014 04:13 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  And we get 6 bowls after this year.

Actually 7 with the Cure Bowl added if the AAC does not sell off another bowl for a Miami opponent. AAC should not sell the slot unless it can get ESPN to give them a better time slot than a Monday 2pm slot when everyone is at work.

Yep, you're right.
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There is a SLIGHT chance that with FSU going to the access bowl, they may have 1 bowl slot left open... But the SEC already has more teams that are eligible then bowl slots, if one makes the playoff, so I fully expect them to take any open slots.
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(11-23-2014 01:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-23-2014 08:24 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  
(11-23-2014 02:11 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-23-2014 01:12 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Question. Could AAC have a team left out. We have 5 tie ins and potentially 6 bowl teams. What are the options for temple assuming they get bowl eligible. Independence and what else. What if there is no opening in the independence bowl.

It would depend on if other conferences had more bowl contracts than eligible teams. I haven't checked all the W-L records or all the bowl tie-ins, but I would hope Temple could get a slot somewhere. I thought last summer we were worried about bowls not having enough teams to fill all the slots.

The gamble of the selling of the the Bahama's bowl could really come back and bite the AAC. BYU has a subpar year. There looks to be P5 teams that will need an at-large bid and the backup deals are falling short for the AAC. The only AAC back-ups I know are Memphis and Indy are backup bowls. Those appear gone. Are they are any others?

ACC - 11 Teams with 10 Bowl slots guaranteed. Possible 12th if Pitt beats Miami.
SEC - 11 Teams with 9 Bowl slots guaranteed. Likely 12th and possibly 13th team.
PAC - 8 Teams with 7 Bowl Slots. Possible 9th if Call beat BYU.
B1G - 10 Teams with 9 bowl slots. Detroit Backup MAC, HOD backup ?
B12 - 6 teams with 7 Bowl Slots. OSU needs to be OK to be seventh.

SunBelt 4 teams with 3 Slots
CUSA - 6 teams with 5 slots possible 7th if UAB beats So Miss.
MAC - 5 Bowl teams with 5 Slots. Possible 6th or 7th if Ohio beast Miami, Akron beats Kent. Back up with Detroit.
MWC - 6 bowl teams with 6 Slots. Possible 7th if Fresno beats Hawaii.

It looks like Armed Forces and Dallas Bowl will need backups but I have no idea if those are at large or contracted. AF is an AAC bowl, so it appears HOD would be the only place an AAC could land.

It appears their could be P5 at-large needed. In addition, if not contracted, the all the 7-5 teams get preference over 6-6 at large. It could get very interesting to see who stays home even being Bowl eligible.

Question. You are only showing 61 bowl slots in your example. If you add the 5 from the AAC, that is 66 total slots, or 33 bowl games.

I thought several new bowls were added this year, for a total of somewhere between 37 and 39 bowl games, so that would be 74 to 78 slots, not 66. No?

Plus it takes 11 P5 teams (plus one G5) to fill out the new CFP bowls.
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(11-23-2014 08:22 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  There is a SLIGHT chance that with FSU going to the access bowl, they may have 1 bowl slot left open... But the SEC already has more teams that are eligible then bowl slots, if one makes the playoff, so I fully expect them to take any open slots.

No chance if you talking about the ACC, it already has enough teams. I think you are forgetting about the Notre Dame making it 11 teams. If Pitt beats Miami, that will make 12 teams making Swofford to look for another bowl.
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(11-23-2014 03:25 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Did not include G5 only bowls. There was much talk especially from one conference fan base that there would not be enough P5 teams to fill out their bowl slots opening the door for G5 teams. It is not turning out this way for this season. There will be more than enough bowl teams and some teams will be sitting home with no place to go. For example, the AAC gave up a spot in the Bahama's bowl to get BYU for Miami. Temple could now be on the short end as the 6th AAC team with no where to go. Again, not blaming the AAC, it was a good gamble at the time but now it may cost them a slot for their conference. Just not what the AAC wanted in their first G5 year and Aersco claiming it should be in the Power Conferences.

Okay, thanks. I was just trying to understand why the numbers didn't match up. I still think Temple will find a place, though. Assuming they beat UC or Tulane.
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(11-23-2014 09:09 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  
(11-23-2014 08:22 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  There is a SLIGHT chance that with FSU going to the access bowl, they may have 1 bowl slot left open... But the SEC already has more teams that are eligible then bowl slots, if one makes the playoff, so I fully expect them to take any open slots.

No chance if you talking about the ACC, it already has enough teams. I think you are forgetting about the Notre Dame making it 11 teams. If Pitt beats Miami, that will make 12 teams making Swofford to look for another bowl.

Actually, I do need to correct myself on the Slight Chance of the ACC having an opening. If a Big 10 is selected to play in Miami, the ACC would get the BBW bowl slot. Leaving the Bitcoin open if MD does not beat Pitt next week which I believe CUSA is the backup.
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