So, Old Dominion knocks off Louisiana Tech. Should make for a great game next week. I'm predicting Rice wins, 24-21.[/b]

(11-23-2014 12:57 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 02:05 AM)mrbig Wrote:  Things I liked:
(4) The big UTEP WR, Hamilton, was clearly initiating a [b]LOT of contact against the shorter Rice CB's. I applaud the zebras for not calling PI on either Hamilton or Rice when the players were being physical.

I thought the same thing. I think one of those should've been defensive interference, but Hamilton initiated contact on at least one of the others. But, what a great couple of catches he had, along with a very solid overall performance. He is an outstanding player.

(11-22-2014 10:08 AM)OwlMom15 Wrote:  I am so upset that I missed the game. I pulled my back out and took a flexril to relax the muscle. It was so strong that it knocked me out around 7:15 and I just woke up about 15 mins ago. I haven't taken one in years and forgot how strong they are....ugh. I'm glad to hear that we won and look forward to reading the game thread.

I thought of you when I saw White got injured - I think you were mercifully spared seeing that. He looked like he was knocked out cold - at least for a moment - when he flew up to make a tackle on a reverse play and looked like he took the impact helmet-to-helmet.

I hope he doesn't have any long-lasting impact from that, but I would not expect to see him next week.

(11-23-2014 12:57 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 02:05 AM)mrbig Wrote:  Things I liked:
(4) The big UTEP WR, Hamilton, was clearly initiating a LOT of contact against the shorter Rice CB's. I applaud the zebras for not calling PI on either Hamilton or Rice when the players were being physical.

I thought the same thing. I think one of those should've been defensive interference, but Hamilton initiated contact on at least one of the others. But, what a great couple of catches he had, along with a very solid overall performance. He is an outstanding player.

(11-22-2014 10:08 AM)OwlMom15 Wrote:  I am so upset that I missed the game. I pulled my back out and took a flexril to relax the muscle. It was so strong that it knocked me out around 7:15 and I just woke up about 15 mins ago. I haven't taken one in years and forgot how strong they are....ugh. I'm glad to hear that we won and look forward to reading the game thread.

I thought of you when I saw White got injured - I think you were mercifully spared seeing that. He looked like he was knocked out cold - at least for a moment - when he flew up to make a tackle on a reverse play and looked like he took the impact helmet-to-helmet.

I hope he doesn't have any long-lasting impact from that, but I would not expect to see him next week.

It wasn't helmet to helmet, or it certainly didn't appear to be from the many replays. And he wasn't out cold, as his feet and legs were moving (albeit in pain) as the trainers worked on him. It looked as if it was his shoulder and neck area that took the impact. Might have been a slight concussion, but more likely a bad stinger. He looked conscious and engaged on the sidelines later in the game.

Ricefootballnet-- any info on the injury from the sidelines or in the lockerroom?

White has had a series of shoulder injuries, and I believe was wearing a brace for the game. Might have been an aggravation.

With a healthy 6-1 VJ Banks, I was curious why we contined to trot out 5-8 (maybe) Blasingame to cover UTEP's 6-5 Hamilton. It was a comical size mismatch. Blasingame did a commendable job given his disadvantage, but why not use our big corner who has been good all year?

(11-22-2014 11:27 AM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  Random thought: does anyone know what happened to Brandon Hamilton? Thought he showed a lot of promise earlier in the year, both as a back and a return man. Then he disappeared.

Am I delusional in thinking he spent time on defensive line early in the season? It's taken me this long to realize he shares the #18 with Zach Patt, but I thought Patt was out at the time that I thought Hamilton played DE. I was looking forward to seeing him more as well.

(11-23-2014 08:22 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:57 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 02:05 AM)mrbig Wrote:  Things I liked:
(4) The big UTEP WR, Hamilton, was clearly initiating a LOT of contact against the shorter Rice CB's. I applaud the zebras for not calling PI on either Hamilton or Rice when the players were being physical.

I thought the same thing. I think one of those should've been defensive interference, but Hamilton initiated contact on at least one of the others. But, what a great couple of catches he had, along with a very solid overall performance. He is an outstanding player.

(11-22-2014 10:08 AM)OwlMom15 Wrote:  I am so upset that I missed the game. I pulled my back out and took a flexril to relax the muscle. It was so strong that it knocked me out around 7:15 and I just woke up about 15 mins ago. I haven't taken one in years and forgot how strong they are....ugh. I'm glad to hear that we won and look forward to reading the game thread.

I thought of you when I saw White got injured - I think you were mercifully spared seeing that. He looked like he was knocked out cold - at least for a moment - when he flew up to make a tackle on a reverse play and looked like he took the impact helmet-to-helmet.

I hope he doesn't have any long-lasting impact from that, but I would not expect to see him next week.

It wasn't helmet to helmet, or it certainly didn't appear to be from the many replays. And he wasn't out cold, as his feet and legs were moving (albeit in pain) as the trainers worked on him. It looked as if it was his shoulder and neck area that took the impact. Might have been a slight concussion, but more likely a bad stinger. He looked conscious and engaged on the sidelines later in the game.

Ricefootballnet-- any info on the injury from the sidelines or in the lockerroom?

Ok. I think his initial contact was definitely with his shoulder, but their helmets also collided enough that I thought it was a concussion, particularly with how they rolled him over. I initially thought that his shoulder was the issue with the way that he held it, but later thought that he just went limp. I've never liked head injuries and hope that's not the case.

(11-22-2014 10:27 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 10:17 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 10:14 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 09:33 AM)FBChE Wrote:  I was at the game, and liked a lot of it. The things that drove me crazy were:

1. up the middle on first downs.
2. unforced errors. I counted 6 illegal motion penalties at key points in the came that could have cost us as many as 14 point.

12 penalties, FOUR defensive offsides in the first half drove me nuts in the stands.

Yeah, frustrating to me also.

Yet, these are uncharacteristic of this team. I guess Showers was doing something on his snap count that was working.

Just out of curiosity, did we have as many defensive offsides in the second half as the first, or did we adjust?

I don't think we had any in the second half. So that's a positive.

Bailiff was pissed as well, and yelling at the players to watch the ball and not bite on the sound.

(11-22-2014 01:48 PM)OldOwl Wrote:  You have to give Baillif and his staff credit this is one area that has been greatly improved since Couch Hatfield.

c-o-a-c-h... with an "a"

(11-22-2014 01:55 PM)talon owl Wrote:  Dillard's YPC is vastly superior to Davis'. He should be getting more of the carries. Hamilton too.

But I'm not surprised that our coaches stick with Davis given the prevalent conservatism of our offense. He doesn't fumble.

4.1 against 5.2 ypc. The stats page doesn't have a "fumbles-by" listing, but Rice has 3 fumbles lost on 8 total on the year. I wonder if there is a metric by which you'd say you're better off losing X yards per carry to offset Y fumbles lost per 100 carries.

(11-23-2014 08:22 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 12:57 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 02:05 AM)mrbig Wrote:  Things I liked:
(4) The big UTEP WR, Hamilton, was clearly initiating a LOT of contact against the shorter Rice CB's. I applaud the zebras for not calling PI on either Hamilton or Rice when the players were being physical.

I thought the same thing. I think one of those should've been defensive interference, but Hamilton initiated contact on at least one of the others. But, what a great couple of catches he had, along with a very solid overall performance. He is an outstanding player.

(11-22-2014 10:08 AM)OwlMom15 Wrote:  I am so upset that I missed the game. I pulled my back out and took a flexril to relax the muscle. It was so strong that it knocked me out around 7:15 and I just woke up about 15 mins ago. I haven't taken one in years and forgot how strong they are....ugh. I'm glad to hear that we won and look forward to reading the game thread.

I thought of you when I saw White got injured - I think you were mercifully spared seeing that. He looked like he was knocked out cold - at least for a moment - when he flew up to make a tackle on a reverse play and looked like he took the impact helmet-to-helmet.

I hope he doesn't have any long-lasting impact from that, but I would not expect to see him next week.

It wasn't helmet to helmet, or it certainly didn't appear to be from the many replays. And he wasn't out cold, as his feet and legs were moving (albeit in pain) as the trainers worked on him. It looked as if it was his shoulder and neck area that took the impact. Might have been a slight concussion, but more likely a bad stinger. He looked conscious and engaged on the sidelines later in the game.

Ricefootballnet-- any info on the injury from the sidelines or in the lockerroom?

White appeared to be moving around on the sideline and carrying on conversations without any visible distress...but I got the strong impression that he was going right into the concussion testing regimen from the moment he was helped off the field...I need to be careful what I say due to HIPAA/confidentiality issues....

(11-23-2014 01:45 PM)I45owl Wrote:  [quote='loki_the_bubba' pid='11417671' dateline='1416670037']
[quote='OptimisticOwl' pid='11417645' dateline='1416669462']
[quote='loki_the_bubba' pid='11417633' dateline='1416669259']

Bailiff was pissed as well, and yelling at the players to watch the ball and not bite on the sound.

Really? I am glad to read this and would like other examples if you know of any. Those penalties based on the UTEP hard count were driving me to yell as well! <g>

(11-22-2014 10:27 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 10:17 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Yeah, frustrating to me also.

Yet, these are uncharacteristic of this team. I guess Showers was doing something on his snap count that was working.

Just out of curiosity, did we have as many defensive offsides in the second half as the first, or did we adjust?

I don't think we had any in the second half. So that's a positive.

First half they showed DB yelling on the sideline, as I read his lips..."Watch the ball!". I figured that out in 7th grade. It works.

(11-23-2014 08:10 PM)NolaOwl Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 01:45 PM)I45owl Wrote:  [quote='loki_the_bubba' pid='11417671' dateline='1416670037']
[quote='OptimisticOwl' pid='11417645' dateline='1416669462']
[quote='loki_the_bubba' pid='11417633' dateline='1416669259']

Bailiff was pissed as well, and yelling at the players to watch the ball and not bite on the sound.

Really? I am glad to read this and would like other examples if you know of any. Those penalties based on the UTEP hard count were driving me to yell as well! <g>

I too saw it on the DVR recording. And here is another interesting tidbit from the broadcast related to the trust coaches have in the players. Apparently there are situations where Coach Thurmond will just call "best" regarding coverage. What that means is that he leaves it to Safties to set the coverage based on what they see. The explanation was that the Rice coaching staff feels that the intellect of their players allows them to run multiple schemes with confidence.

(11-23-2014 10:35 PM)Pan95 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:10 PM)NolaOwl Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 01:45 PM)I45owl Wrote:  [quote='loki_the_bubba' pid='11417671' dateline='1416670037']
[quote='OptimisticOwl' pid='11417645' dateline='1416669462']
[quote='loki_the_bubba' pid='11417633' dateline='1416669259']

Bailiff was pissed as well, and yelling at the players to watch the ball and not bite on the sound.

Really? I am glad to read this and would like other examples if you know of any. Those penalties based on the UTEP hard count were driving me to yell as well! <g>

I too saw it on the DVR recording. And here is another interesting tidbit from the broadcast related to the trust coaches have in the players. Apparently there are situations where Coach Thurmond will just call "best" regarding coverage. What that means is that he leaves it to Safties to set the coverage based on what they see. The explanation was that the Rice coaching staff feels that the intellect of their players allows them to run multiple schemes with confidence.

Apparently, I missed that.

(11-23-2014 10:53 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 10:35 PM)Pan95 Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 08:10 PM)NolaOwl Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 01:45 PM)I45owl Wrote:  [quote='loki_the_bubba' pid='11417671' dateline='1416670037']
[quote='OptimisticOwl' pid='11417645' dateline='1416669462']
[quote='loki_the_bubba' pid='11417633' dateline='1416669259']

Bailiff was pissed as well, and yelling at the players to watch the ball and not bite on the sound.

Really? I am glad to read this and would like other examples if you know of any. Those penalties based on the UTEP hard count were driving me to yell as well! <g>

I too saw it on the DVR recording. And here is another interesting tidbit from the broadcast related to the trust coaches have in the players. Apparently there are situations where Coach Thurmond will just call "best" regarding coverage. What that means is that he leaves it to Safties to set the coverage based on what they see. The explanation was that the Rice coaching staff feels that the intellect of their players allows them to run multiple schemes with confidence.

Apparently, I missed that.

I saw him yelling, but can't read lips. I assume all those drivers on the freeway are telling me to take my time and have a nice day.

(11-23-2014 08:10 PM)NolaOwl Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 01:45 PM)I45owl Wrote:  [quote='loki_the_bubba' pid='11417671' dateline='1416670037']
[quote='OptimisticOwl' pid='11417645' dateline='1416669462']
[quote='loki_the_bubba' pid='11417633' dateline='1416669259']

Bailiff was pissed as well, and yelling at the players to watch the ball and not bite on the sound.

Really? I am glad to read this and would like other examples if you know of any. Those penalties based on the UTEP hard count were driving me to yell as well! <g>

In the homecoming game against UTSA, we committed a dead ball personal foul penalty after stopping UTSA on fourth down with a minute remaining. Bailiff walked out onto the field to meet the player who had committed the penalty, then took him to the back of the bench (by the stands) and 'gave him a talking to' while our offense knelt to run out the clock.