(11-24-2014 11:44 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 11:06 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Truthfully John , in this day and age of Identity theft, do You feel safe showing other peoples signatures on open Web pages ? I hope They aren't compromised with that Sig.

That picture has been seen by 1000s with or without my using it as a sig. Both of those guys are high profile people whose signature is widely used in letters to the public.

Ok just wondering.

There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes that Congress and even the President cannot and will not know about. That is just the fact of the matter.

(11-22-2014 04:18 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 02:34 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 01:40 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 10:29 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 08:40 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Four people died and all you can worry about is how it looked for Hillary and Obammy.

And how can the same line not be said about you?

Because I didn't start the thread.

but you responded calling him out with an extremely hypocritical comment.

Hypocritical, perhaps, but not undeserved.

That's absolute bull**** and I want an apology for it! It is most certainly undeserved.

I have never ONCE claimed that the deaths of these Americans was nothing less than tragic. In fact, I've even said that things could have been done by State ahead of time to prevent. The only thing I've ever said that could be taken to the contrary was my "fart in the wind" comment, but that was clearly at all the conspiracy crap and not the deaths of the Americans.

And I don't care how this looks for Hillary and Obama. And by the way, are we going to keep allowing the racist "Obammy" comment in this new spin room? It offends me every time I see it.

What I want is the truth to come out. You apparently want the truth to come out that falls in line with your view.

What bothers me the most is that I have been nothing short of 100% objective on Benghazi since Day 1. Again, I called this a terrorist attack on here on September 12th.

(11-25-2014 12:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  That's absolute bull**** and I want an apology for it! It is most certainly undeserved.

That's a matter of opinion, and we obviously have different opinions.

I agree that you have been more objective that most lefties on here, about this and many other issues. But you've ventured pretty far into the water-carrying here lately.

Let's just take your comments at face value. I'll accept for the sake of argument your statement that you called this a terrorist attack on September 12th. But you have subsequently claimed that later attempts to characterize it as something else were not a cover up. So are you saying that the administration's attempt to peddle a story that you had concluded was wrong did not constitute a cover up? Please navigate me through that minefield.

I want the truth to come out, period. Obviously there was a major screwup somewhere. You don't get this kind of result without one. We've had now seven reports that have failed to identify where. So where?

(11-22-2014 01:16 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 07:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Time for the naysayers to finally admit that they were wrong about a cover up?
http://www.vox.com/2014/11/21/7265187/ho...azi-report
How much more do you need? How much more money should we waste?

I have posted repeatedly a list of very specific questions that I have about the incident. Which of the seven reports addressed my questions?

Did you expect to get answers here?

(11-25-2014 01:05 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 01:16 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 07:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Time for the naysayers to finally admit that they were wrong about a cover up?
http://www.vox.com/2014/11/21/7265187/ho...azi-report
How much more do you need? How much more money should we waste?

I have posted repeatedly a list of very specific questions that I have about the incident. Which of the seven reports addressed my questions?

Did you expect to get answers here?

Not here, but I would expect an appropriate investigation to provide them. There was a major c*ckup. You don't get this result without one. Who, what, when, where, why, and how? And what actions have been taken against the individuals responsible?

(11-25-2014 01:13 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 01:05 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 01:16 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 07:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Time for the naysayers to finally admit that they were wrong about a cover up?
http://www.vox.com/2014/11/21/7265187/ho...azi-report
How much more do you need? How much more money should we waste?

I have posted repeatedly a list of very specific questions that I have about the incident. Which of the seven reports addressed my questions?

Did you expect to get answers here?

Not here, but I would expect an appropriate investigation to provide them. There was a major c*ckup. You don't get this result without one. Who, what, when, where, why, and how? And what actions have been taken against the individuals responsible?

You'll probably never get the answers you're seeking. The truth probably lies in the middle somewhere with several individuals on both sides of the political aisle carrying some blame.

(11-25-2014 01:05 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 12:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  That's absolute bull**** and I want an apology for it! It is most certainly undeserved.

That's a matter of opinion, and we obviously have different opinions.

I agree that you have been more objective that most lefties on here, about this and many other issues. But you've ventured pretty far into the water-carrying here lately.

Let's just take your comments at face value. I'll accept for the sake of argument your statement that you called this a terrorist attack on September 12th. But you have subsequently claimed that later attempts to characterize it as something else were not a cover up. So are you saying that the administration's attempt to peddle a story that you had concluded was wrong did not constitute a cover up? Please navigate me through that minefield.

I want the truth to come out, period. Obviously there was a major screwup somewhere. You don't get this kind of result without one. We've had now seven reports that have failed to identify where. So where?

Owl, it's right there in the fricking report, the one signed off by Republicans! There was intel that the movie was a factor when Rice was given her talking points. And I've cited the NY Times piece several times, the one posted the day after the attack, that sources on the ground said that participants in the attack said they were motivated by the video. While yes, we soon learned that this was not the reason for the attach and that there wasn't any protest going on, but it doesn't change the FACT that this Republican led investigation found no fault in the administration or Rice for this.

And if you think that I'm carrying water for the administration here, it's only because that's where the water, all of it, has fell. We're over two years into this and still nothing has been found that points to any sort of WH cover-up, or a "scandal". It's time to stop wasting our time and money on this!

And was there really a screw-up? C'mon man, we have guys in the field all over the world. Sometimes, the bad guys are going to be better at some point and be able to kill some of them. As I've said ad nauseum...either open up the vaults and poor cash in or bring everyone home. That's the only viable solutions to preventing these things, and not even that is full proof.

(11-25-2014 03:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 01:05 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 12:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  That's absolute bull**** and I want an apology for it! It is most certainly undeserved.

That's a matter of opinion, and we obviously have different opinions.

I agree that you have been more objective that most lefties on here, about this and many other issues. But you've ventured pretty far into the water-carrying here lately.

Let's just take your comments at face value. I'll accept for the sake of argument your statement that you called this a terrorist attack on September 12th. But you have subsequently claimed that later attempts to characterize it as something else were not a cover up. So are you saying that the administration's attempt to peddle a story that you had concluded was wrong did not constitute a cover up? Please navigate me through that minefield.

I want the truth to come out, period. Obviously there was a major screwup somewhere. You don't get this kind of result without one. We've had now seven reports that have failed to identify where. So where?

Owl, it's right there in the fricking report, the one signed off by Republicans! There was intel that the movie was a factor when Rice was given her talking points. And I've cited the NY Times piece several times, the one posted the day after the attack, that sources on the ground said that participants in the attack said they were motivated by the video. While yes, we soon learned that this was not the reason for the attach and that there wasn't any protest going on, but it doesn't change the FACT that this Republican led investigation found no fault in the administration or Rice for this.

And if you think that I'm carrying water for the administration here, it's only because that's where the water, all of it, has fell. We're over two years into this and still nothing has been found that points to any sort of WH cover-up, or a "scandal". It's time to stop wasting our time and money on this!

And was there really a screw-up? C'mon man, we have guys in the field all over the world. Sometimes, the bad guys are going to be better at some point and be able to kill some of them. As I've said ad nauseum...either open up the vaults and poor cash in or bring everyone home. That's the only viable solutions to preventing these things, and not even that is full proof.

Hillary lied, 4 americans died.