Same old argument. We'll see what happens. If he turns it around, great. Do I think he will? No. There aren't any indicators that he will. We will soon find out.

(11-20-2014 03:45 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  I hope you end up being wrong. The thing that bothers me is his record against the top 25. It isn't debateable that the record is very bad. It isn't anywhere close to .500. You can count his top twenty-five wins on one hand in five years and we are now in year six. I know we can do better for the school I love.

Josh Pastner's record in the first 24 games against top 25 opponents:

5-19

John Calipari's record in the first 24 games against top 25 opponents:

5-19

(11-20-2014 03:30 PM)bone Wrote:  Bruce Pearl. Let me tell you....he isn't staying at Auburn. He wanted the Tennessee job back when Conzo left but UT wouldn't go there. All over a freaking bbq.....really? And those BBQ are LEGAL now.

People in Knoxville love him and he still has a home there in Gettysvue subdivision on the golf course. He downsized recently but still has a $1m dollar home there. Probably waiting for the Michelin man (Tyndall) to fail...sounds like he is already in trouble.

And Pearl is still a member of Cherokee Country Club. I watched the UT game there last year and he was there with a group of people watching. People love his a$$.

He would dominate at Memphis. And he does like Memphis.

That was before he got hired at Auburn. If he still has a house, it's because he can't sell it. His daughter is in school and his son doesn't live in Kville anymore. He's an Auburn resident by all accounts now.

(11-20-2014 03:58 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:45 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  I hope you end up being wrong. The thing that bothers me is his record against the top 25. It isn't debateable that the record is very bad. It isn't anywhere close to .500. You can count his top twenty-five wins on one hand in five years and we are now in year six. I know we can do better for the school I love.

Josh Pastner's record in the first 24 games against top 25 opponents:

5-19

John Calipari's record in the first 24 games against top 25 opponents:

5-19

^ this.

I didn't have the time to look it up.

(11-20-2014 03:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  So some of you still want josh replaced by a guy who just got drilled by 31 points?

He's also a guy that's been to an Elite 8 at a not-so-great program.

(11-20-2014 03:59 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:30 PM)bone Wrote:  Bruce Pearl. Let me tell you....he isn't staying at Auburn. He wanted the Tennessee job back when Conzo left but UT wouldn't go there. All over a freaking bbq.....really? And those BBQ are LEGAL now.

People in Knoxville love him and he still has a home there in Gettysvue subdivision on the golf course. He downsized recently but still has a $1m dollar home there. Probably waiting for the Michelin man (Tyndall) to fail...sounds like he is already in trouble.

And Pearl is still a member of Cherokee Country Club. I watched the UT game there last year and he was there with a group of people watching. People love his a$$.

He would dominate at Memphis. And he does like Memphis.

That was before he got hired at Auburn. If he still has a house, it's because he can't sell it. His daughter is in school and his son doesn't live in Kville anymore. He's an Auburn resident by all accounts now.

If he still has a house, it's because he can't sell it. - WRONG

He had a bigger home and sold it and bought another place in the same neighborhood.

(11-20-2014 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:58 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:45 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  I hope you end up being wrong. The thing that bothers me is his record against the top 25. It isn't debateable that the record is very bad. It isn't anywhere close to .500. You can count his top twenty-five wins on one hand in five years and we are now in year six. I know we can do better for the school I love.

Josh Pastner's record in the first 24 games against top 25 opponents:

5-19

John Calipari's record in the first 24 games against top 25 opponents:

5-19

^ this.

I didn't have the time to look it up.

So this means he's destined to repeat Cal's greatness as HC here?

C'mon.

(11-20-2014 04:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:58 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:45 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  I hope you end up being wrong. The thing that bothers me is his record against the top 25. It isn't debateable that the record is very bad. It isn't anywhere close to .500. You can count his top twenty-five wins on one hand in five years and we are now in year six. I know we can do better for the school I love.

Josh Pastner's record in the first 24 games against top 25 opponents:

5-19

John Calipari's record in the first 24 games against top 25 opponents:

5-19

^ this.

I didn't have the time to look it up.

So this means he's destined to repeat Cal's greatness as HC here?

C'mon.

Cal is gone...time to accept it...

He's 5-19 and you turds are comparing him to Cal.

(11-20-2014 04:01 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  So some of you still want josh replaced by a guy who just got drilled by 31 points?

He's also a guy that's been to an Elite 8 at a not-so-great program.

It's a program that owns a 14-11 record against us, unfortunately.

You know who else has been to an Elite 8 at a not-so-great program? Stan Heath! Anybody got his number on speed dial?

(11-20-2014 04:07 PM)450bench Wrote:  He's 5-19 and you turds are comparing him to Cal.

Cal was 5-19, but if name-calling makes you feel like a bigger man then have at it. Some of us don't need keyboard "heroics" to compensate.

It's easy to confuse wishful thinking with reality. Wishful thinking is you can bring in a QUALIFIED coach who can get the job done.
Reality is: Unless the QUALIFIED coach is successful already why would the U of M want him? If he's not successful already why not, thus why would the U of M want him?
Reality is if the Tigers win 20 or more games this season the U of M W-I-L-L N-O-T let him go. If they did let him go what good coach would want the job after a coach who
just average 20+ wins for 6 years with a 30 win season among them, was let go? I think they will let Josh at least get through next year with the Lawson family. If he bombs this year and next year they might look at replacing him. One game doesn't this season make. At least give the season a chance to play out and then wax eloquently. You never know when these kids will gel and take off. If you remember the '09 season that team lost 3 early games then Cal made one player change (T. Evans) and they went on a tear. I don't agree with a lot of what Josh does but as far as firing him it's about 2 seasons too soon IMO.

(11-20-2014 04:02 PM)bone Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:59 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:30 PM)bone Wrote:  Bruce Pearl. Let me tell you....he isn't staying at Auburn. He wanted the Tennessee job back when Conzo left but UT wouldn't go there. All over a freaking bbq.....really? And those BBQ are LEGAL now.

People in Knoxville love him and he still has a home there in Gettysvue subdivision on the golf course. He downsized recently but still has a $1m dollar home there. Probably waiting for the Michelin man (Tyndall) to fail...sounds like he is already in trouble.

And Pearl is still a member of Cherokee Country Club. I watched the UT game there last year and he was there with a group of people watching. People love his a$$.

He would dominate at Memphis. And he does like Memphis.

That was before he got hired at Auburn. If he still has a house, it's because he can't sell it. His daughter is in school and his son doesn't live in Kville anymore. He's an Auburn resident by all accounts now.

If he still has a house, it's because he can't sell it. - WRONG

He had a bigger home and sold it and bought another place in the same neighborhood.

Property assesor says he sold it on August 29, 2014.

Just sayin'.

(11-20-2014 04:06 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 04:03 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:58 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:45 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  I hope you end up being wrong. The thing that bothers me is his record against the top 25. It isn't debateable that the record is very bad. It isn't anywhere close to .500. You can count his top twenty-five wins on one hand in five years and we are now in year six. I know we can do better for the school I love.

Josh Pastner's record in the first 24 games against top 25 opponents:

5-19

John Calipari's record in the first 24 games against top 25 opponents:

5-19

^ this.

I didn't have the time to look it up.

So this means he's destined to repeat Cal's greatness as HC here?

C'mon.

Cal is gone...time to accept it...

EXACTLY!!!

(11-20-2014 04:07 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 04:01 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  So some of you still want josh replaced by a guy who just got drilled by 31 points?

He's also a guy that's been to an Elite 8 at a not-so-great program.

It's a program that owns a 14-11 record against us, unfortunately.

You know who else has been to an Elite 8 at a not-so-great program? Stan Heath! Anybody got his number on speed dial?

You really want to get into Bruce Pearl's coaching resume?

What was his record at his first coaching?

Milwaukee?

Tennessee?

How many times has he been PAST the first weekend?

Say what you want about his ethics, but the guy has had much, much, much more success than Pastner on the court. It can't be argued.

Guys. Josh ain't a-goin', Bruce ain't a-comin'. THE NCAA would be peeping through every window on the U of M campus. Bill Cosby or Gruber-Goober might as well apply for the job.

(11-20-2014 04:13 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 04:07 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 04:01 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  So some of you still want josh replaced by a guy who just got drilled by 31 points?

He's also a guy that's been to an Elite 8 at a not-so-great program.

It's a program that owns a 14-11 record against us, unfortunately.

You know who else has been to an Elite 8 at a not-so-great program? Stan Heath! Anybody got his number on speed dial?

You really want to get into Bruce Pearl's coaching resume?

What was his record at his first coaching?

Milwaukee?

Tennessee?

How many times has he been PAST the first weekend?

Say what you want about his ethics, but the guy has had much, much, much more success than Pastner on the court. It can't be argued.

Pearl spent 10 years as an assistant and then coached D-II ball for 9 years before getting a D-I gig. I'd say he had a little more time to hone his craft.

(11-20-2014 03:13 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I will say it again

1. A high profile coach who already makes bank is not likely to uproot their family for more bank.

2. I haven't heard one coach mentioned who might be willing to uproot their family and come to Memphis, who I have thought would automatically have done better than josh.

3. Given that, the next coach is likely a 500k former assistant.

I don't agree on pt. 3

(11-20-2014 04:22 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  Pearl spent 10 years as an assistant and then coached D-II ball for 9 years before getting a D-I gig. I'd say he had a little more time to hone his craft.

A fine excuse, but not really relevant to the comparison between the two unless you're suggesting we send Josh to be an assistant somewhere for 5 or so years before he comes back.

(11-20-2014 04:24 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:13 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I will say it again

1. A high profile coach who already makes bank is not likely to uproot their family for more bank.

2. I haven't heard one coach mentioned who might be willing to uproot their family and come to Memphis, who I have thought would automatically have done better than josh.

3. Given that, the next coach is likely a 500k former assistant.

I don't agree on pt. 3

Neither do I. The 5 and 19 is only going to get worse.