Bloodbath next year may be rather polite to say. If GA State wins the opener against UNCC they won't win another game. Not to mention the glaring attendance and support issues already present only become worse.

(11-19-2014 08:44 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  Gonna go out on a limb here and say you knew their record before this was posted.

???

No I had no clue. I got my result though convo about their team. I was happy they joined back for hoops reasons and I hope they can grow into football but I have my doubts. Starting a program flies hard for anyone but to jump right into 1-A football is nuts. I hope it works out for them as it will benefit CUSA

(11-20-2014 01:59 PM)PirateJim Wrote:  UNCC will finish last in CUSA next year.

Looks like Einstein decided to join in.

(11-20-2014 02:53 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Bloodbath next year may be rather polite to say. If GA State wins the opener against UNCC they won't win another game. Not to mention the glaring attendance and support issues already present only become worse.

We will be fine, but thanks for caring.

(11-20-2014 02:53 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Bloodbath next year may be rather polite to say. If GA State wins the opener against UNCC they won't win another game. Not to mention the glaring attendance and support issues already present only become worse.

The attendance and support issues are not what they seem. The problem isn't attendance and support, it was poor leadership.

Our student attendance has been around three or four thousand even at its worst (GWebb last year excluded - fall break). If we had set the student ticket allotment at a realistic level based on the demand, we'd be fine.

As it stands, we have 7,500 seats reserved for about 4,000 students who show up. To put that in perspective, Tennessee has averaged about 5,000 students per game this year. We allocate 49% of our total stadium capacity to student tickets. If we were fully FBS, that would be the largest percentage in the country. Right now Texas A&M gives their students about 35% of Kyle Field.

There are rumblings of the student section being cut to about 4,000 next year. I don't see how our chancellor could possibly stick to his guns on this - it was his decision to reserve that many student tickets to begin with. Opening up those seats to the general public - where there has been plenty of demand shown - will make a big difference.

(11-20-2014 03:07 PM)49erlew Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 02:53 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Bloodbath next year may be rather polite to say. If GA State wins the opener against UNCC they won't win another game. Not to mention the glaring attendance and support issues already present only become worse.

The attendance and support issues are not what they seem. The problem isn't attendance and support, it was poor leadership.

Our student attendance has been around three or four thousand even at its worst (GWebb last year excluded - fall break). If we had set the student ticket allotment at a realistic level based on the demand, we'd be fine.

As it stands, we have 7,500 seats reserved for about 4,000 students who show up. To put that in perspective, Tennessee has averaged about 5,000 students per game this year. We allocate 49% of our total stadium capacity to student tickets. If we were fully FBS, that would be the largest percentage in the country. Right now Texas A&M gives their students about 35% of Kyle Field.

There are rumblings of the student section being cut to about 4,000 next year. I don't see how our chancellor could possibly stick to his guns on this - it was his decision to reserve that many student tickets to begin with. Opening up those seats to the general public - where there has been plenty of demand shown - will make a big difference.

Interesting numbers you got a bit skewd so I will just let your own people tell you about yourselves, I'm just gonna leave this here.

http://nineronline.com/2014/11/student-a...ueen-city/

(11-20-2014 02:36 PM)banker Wrote:  I fear they may set the record for most outscored FBS team in history. I don't say that pick on you guys, but there is no way you are ready for FBS ball. You should have played a couple games against them this year just to get the experience and tape.

Problem was that the 2013 and 2014 schedules were made in the fall of 2010, a year and a half before we accepted the C-USA invitation. By the time that happened most 2014 non-conference schedules had been finalized by FBS teams, so it was very much out of our control. Also, Old Dominion backed out of a deal that became the James Madison series.

(11-20-2014 03:14 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:07 PM)49erlew Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 02:53 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Bloodbath next year may be rather polite to say. If GA State wins the opener against UNCC they won't win another game. Not to mention the glaring attendance and support issues already present only become worse.

The attendance and support issues are not what they seem. The problem isn't attendance and support, it was poor leadership.

Our student attendance has been around three or four thousand even at its worst (GWebb last year excluded - fall break). If we had set the student ticket allotment at a realistic level based on the demand, we'd be fine.

As it stands, we have 7,500 seats reserved for about 4,000 students who show up. To put that in perspective, Tennessee has averaged about 5,000 students per game this year. We allocate 49% of our total stadium capacity to student tickets. If we were fully FBS, that would be the largest percentage in the country. Right now Texas A&M gives their students about 35% of Kyle Field.

There are rumblings of the student section being cut to about 4,000 next year. I don't see how our chancellor could possibly stick to his guns on this - it was his decision to reserve that many student tickets to begin with. Opening up those seats to the general public - where there has been plenty of demand shown - will make a big difference.

Interesting numbers you got a bit skewd so I will just let your own people tell you about yourselves, I'm just gonna leave this here.

http://nineronline.com/2014/11/student-a...ueen-city/

If you add up your "support" for your next 6 most popular sports, you're about half what we average for basketball.

Many of your sports average less than 500 fans per game. That is laughably pathetic, especially when you factor in that the people working the games count as attendance. Not really surprising though. Your administration doesn't even pretend to give a **** about any other sports.

(11-20-2014 10:15 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:14 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:07 PM)49erlew Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 02:53 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Bloodbath next year may be rather polite to say. If GA State wins the opener against UNCC they won't win another game. Not to mention the glaring attendance and support issues already present only become worse.

The attendance and support issues are not what they seem. The problem isn't attendance and support, it was poor leadership.

Our student attendance has been around three or four thousand even at its worst (GWebb last year excluded - fall break). If we had set the student ticket allotment at a realistic level based on the demand, we'd be fine.

As it stands, we have 7,500 seats reserved for about 4,000 students who show up. To put that in perspective, Tennessee has averaged about 5,000 students per game this year. We allocate 49% of our total stadium capacity to student tickets. If we were fully FBS, that would be the largest percentage in the country. Right now Texas A&M gives their students about 35% of Kyle Field.

There are rumblings of the student section being cut to about 4,000 next year. I don't see how our chancellor could possibly stick to his guns on this - it was his decision to reserve that many student tickets to begin with. Opening up those seats to the general public - where there has been plenty of demand shown - will make a big difference.

Interesting numbers you got a bit skewd so I will just let your own people tell you about yourselves, I'm just gonna leave this here.

http://nineronline.com/2014/11/student-a...ueen-city/

If you add up your "support" for your next 6 most popular sports, you're about half what we average for basketball.

Many of your sports average less than 500 fans per game. That is laughably pathetic, especially when you factor in that the people working the games count as attendance.

Not sure why you guys are bothering.

(11-20-2014 03:14 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 03:07 PM)49erlew Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 02:53 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Bloodbath next year may be rather polite to say. If GA State wins the opener against UNCC they won't win another game. Not to mention the glaring attendance and support issues already present only become worse.

The attendance and support issues are not what they seem. The problem isn't attendance and support, it was poor leadership.

Our student attendance has been around three or four thousand even at its worst (GWebb last year excluded - fall break). If we had set the student ticket allotment at a realistic level based on the demand, we'd be fine.

As it stands, we have 7,500 seats reserved for about 4,000 students who show up. To put that in perspective, Tennessee has averaged about 5,000 students per game this year. We allocate 49% of our total stadium capacity to student tickets. If we were fully FBS, that would be the largest percentage in the country. Right now Texas A&M gives their students about 35% of Kyle Field.

There are rumblings of the student section being cut to about 4,000 next year. I don't see how our chancellor could possibly stick to his guns on this - it was his decision to reserve that many student tickets to begin with. Opening up those seats to the general public - where there has been plenty of demand shown - will make a big difference.

Interesting numbers you got a bit skewd so I will just let your own people tell you about yourselves, I'm just gonna leave this here.

http://nineronline.com/2014/11/student-a...ueen-city/

You mean an article written about the students not coming. Isn't that what Lew talked about in his post? About how the kids are going to get their allotment cut. The alumni and public have been overwhelmingly supportive. The students suck and I'm sure it will be addressed in the offseason.

We average for men's soccer better than you get for basketball. Your students suck worse.

(11-20-2014 04:21 PM)itsbraille49 Wrote:  Also, Old Dominion backed out of a deal that became the James Madison series.

Old Dominion backed out of nothing. Charlotte cancelled the ODU game only months prior to scheduled date, leaving us to fill the slot with Campbell. Charlotte secured a H/H with JMU, which was likely much more competitive than an ODU game would have been. However, the timing of Charlotte's cancellation of our game will not be forgotten, and was not appreciated.

The agreement changed when ODU was given the invite to CUSA, as per the contract, and Charlotte was the school that decided not to pursue the series.

The thread here is about how things are looking in regards to UNCC football, not App State's tennis and golf teams combined attendance numbers. Nor does a argument exactly break down any new doors with "your students suck worse" really champ? You have any facts to support that? We don't have articles by our own paper talking about abysmal attendance by our student body to football games and just general lack of support and apathy.

You guys can point at our basketball program as our one kink in our armor till you are all green in the face. We all admit they have a way to go, but you guys aren't exactly world beaters at the sport. It is like a playbook with you people anytime your football program is brought up you go to basketball with us. Makes us all wonder, why even have football if all you guys want to be is a basketball school? Maybe that is why the kids don't give two sh*ts to watch it with tickets they already paid for.

Boy it has been a tough year in terms of our record, and next year will be worse, but we will be just fine. We are building a program from scratch and cannot expect to start at the top. We have one of the top men's soccer programs in the nation, our men's basketball team seems to be back on track to go dancing--hopefully more years than not. Our baseball team is pretty good and being in C-USA is only going to make it better, and our women's hoops team is reasonably successful. It is hard to believe that we can enjoy a reasonable level of success across sports but cannot put together a decent football program. Right now we are working out the kinks, but we will get there.

So CLT fans, I have a question for you.
As you know, Marshall has a problem with SOS right now.
If the conference asked you guys, would you be willing to give up your game against MU (or any other team that would have a REAL chance to get to the CFP bowls) to schedule a DII or FCS school?
That way you could have a more appropriate challenge, and that would give MU an opportunity to upgrade our schedule.

(11-20-2014 10:31 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 04:21 PM)itsbraille49 Wrote:  Also, Old Dominion backed out of a deal that became the James Madison series.

Old Dominion backed out of nothing. Charlotte cancelled the ODU game only months prior to scheduled date, leaving us to fill the slot with Campbell. Charlotte secured a H/H with JMU, which was likely much more competitive than an ODU game would have been. However, the timing of Charlotte's cancellation of our game will not be forgotten, and was not appreciated.

The agreement changed when ODU was given the invite to CUSA, as per the contract, and Charlotte was the school that decided not to pursue the series.

Charlotte cancelled in 13 because ODU cancelled in 14 because they didn't want to come to Charlotte (FCS) this season. Charlotte simply found a home and home to prevent playing at an FCS in 2015, which is basically what Old Dominion did in 2014.

There shouldn't be hard feelings from either school on this issue.

(11-21-2014 12:19 AM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  The thread here is about how things are looking in regards to UNCC football, not App State's tennis and golf teams combined attendance numbers. Nor does a argument exactly break down any new doors with "your students suck worse" really champ? You have any facts to support that? We don't have articles by our own paper talking about abysmal attendance by our student body to football games and just general lack of support and apathy.

You guys can point at our basketball program as our one kink in our armor till you are all green in the face. We all admit they have a way to go, but you guys aren't exactly world beaters at the sport. It is like a playbook with you people anytime your football program is brought up you go to basketball with us. Makes us all wonder, why even have football if all you guys want to be is a basketball school? Maybe that is why the kids don't give two sh*ts to watch it with tickets they already paid for.

And the App fan playbook is to take every opportunity to **** on our attendance (even before it was an issue) while ignoring the glaring support issues you have for every sport other than football...and lets be real, your stadium was very empty last year and for a few games this year when it looked like you would suck again.

(11-21-2014 08:25 AM)Tintin Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 10:31 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 04:21 PM)itsbraille49 Wrote:  Also, Old Dominion backed out of a deal that became the James Madison series.

Old Dominion backed out of nothing. Charlotte cancelled the ODU game only months prior to scheduled date, leaving us to fill the slot with Campbell. Charlotte secured a H/H with JMU, which was likely much more competitive than an ODU game would have been. However, the timing of Charlotte's cancellation of our game will not be forgotten, and was not appreciated.

The agreement changed when ODU was given the invite to CUSA, as per the contract, and Charlotte was the school that decided not to pursue the series.

Charlotte cancelled in 13 because ODU cancelled in 14 because they didn't want to come to Charlotte (FCS) this season. Charlotte simply found a home and home to prevent playing at an FCS in 2015, which is basically what Old Dominion did in 2014.

There shouldn't be hard feelings from either school on this issue.

Yep. It's water under the bridge. It didn't really impact either school. ODU wasn't competing for anything last year and neither were we

(11-21-2014 05:53 AM)TomorrowHerd Wrote:  So CLT fans, I have a question for you.
As you know, Marshall has a problem with SOS right now.
If the conference asked you guys, would you be willing to give up your game against MU (or any other team that would have a REAL chance to get to the CFP bowls) to schedule a DII or FCS school?
That way you could have a more appropriate challenge, and that would give MU an opportunity to upgrade our schedule.

Um, heck no. It's a conference game.

(11-20-2014 02:23 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 02:14 PM)49erlew Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 01:59 PM)PirateJim Wrote:  UNCC will finish last in CUSA next year.

Thank you for your bold prediction.

This guy's a real risk taker!

I coached high school football for 20 years and I've coached against some of the recruits UNCC has signed from the coastal area and some of those guys were not D1 caliber recruits. If they keep signing those types of players they will finish last for a number of years. The recruiting needs to step up.

Good offense and no defense?

You'll fit right in, lol