Markell isn't a PG. So, between Pookie and Kedren Johnson:
- Pookie seems to be a better ball handler (relatively speaking)
- Pookie has been in the program longer
- Pookie has more eligibility remaining

Should Pastner do like Fuente did with Lynch, and make Pookie his starter and take his lumps while he learns?

Magee

This team is going to improve a lot over the season. I'm not saying it's going to get to the level that everyone will be happy with, but it'll get respectable. It's too early to know who will emerge as the solution at PG but it will become clear in the coming weeks.

Pookie needs another redshirt if it was possible. He looked the most scared on the entire team. Didn't look like he was ready.

Kedren is probably the best shot. (Magee hasn't played yet) Hopefully its just rust with Kedren, I think he knows what to do but that yr off ain't helping. Of course he's also not in the best shape.

I think they are both going to be good players for us. They weren't yesterday.

Pookie has been pretty awful so far, but if I was the coach I would tell Kedren he's on the bench until he drops 10 pounds. This could easily be done in less than a month. It wouldn't solve all his problems, but you would hope it would refocus him. Then during this time Pookie knows that no matter what, he's not gonna be yanked every 2 minutes, and hopefully he can gain a little confidence.

(11-19-2014 12:20 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  Markell isn't a PG. So, between Pookie and Kedren Johnson:
- Pookie seems to be a better ball handler (relatively speaking)
- Pookie has been in the program longer
- Pookie has more eligibility remaining

Should Pastner do like Fuente did with Lynch, and make Pookie his starter and take his lumps while he learns?

Also, Pookie did not perform unforced planks or face plants-apparently these actions are performed by not ready for prime time point guards these days.
Who knew?

(11-19-2014 12:20 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  Markell isn't a PG. So, between Pookie and Kedren Johnson:
- Pookie seems to be a better ball handler (relatively speaking)
- Pookie has been in the program longer
- Pookie has more eligibility remaining

Should Pastner do like Fuente did with Lynch, and make Pookie his starter and take his lumps while he learns?

That does bring up a point about how hideously wrong members of this board, and even the media, were about Fuente and lynch. I know that might sting a few, but they just need to man up. That was a genius decision.

Free pianoman!

Pookie and Kedren will both be serviceable PGs by the time that conference play rolls around, IMO. If, that is, the staff allows them to take their lumps and play through mistakes.

Hell, maybe Cunningham can ease their transition when he gets eligible.

(11-19-2014 12:32 PM)Pastnerized Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:20 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  Markell isn't a PG. So, between Pookie and Kedren Johnson:
- Pookie seems to be a better ball handler (relatively speaking)
- Pookie has been in the program longer
- Pookie has more eligibility remaining

Should Pastner do like Fuente did with Lynch, and make Pookie his starter and take his lumps while he learns?

Also, Pookie did not perform unforced planks or face plants-apparently these actions are performed by not ready for prime time point guards these days.
Who knew?

I thought Markel was steady in his ball handling. He made more post entry passes than anyone else. But they all picked up the dribble too early when pressure was applied.

Pookie looked like a walk-on in the first half. Scared. to. death. However, I appreciate his effort on D and on offense even. He surely will settle down as the season progresses. He has very good quickness and he needs to use that to his advantage by getting in the lane and DISHING it not SHOOTING it. He seemed to refuse to get the ball into Nichols' hands not because he didn't want to but probably because he didn't know how to with all that pressure.

(11-19-2014 01:22 PM)tharmon15 Wrote:  Pookie looked like a walk-on in the first half. Scared. to. death. However, I appreciate his effort on D and on offense even. He surely will settle down as the season progresses. He has very good quickness and he needs to use that to his advantage by getting in the lane and DISHING it not SHOOTING it. He seemed to refuse to get the ball into Nichols' hands not because he didn't want to but probably because he didn't know how to with all that pressure.

He seemed at times to be showing the same tentativeness that Joe showed in his first 2 seasons. Playing too controlled. The one time he gave up the wide open three, only to travel when trying to drive the ball looked awful familiar.

(11-19-2014 01:29 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 01:22 PM)tharmon15 Wrote:  Pookie looked like a walk-on in the first half. Scared. to. death. However, I appreciate his effort on D and on offense even. He surely will settle down as the season progresses. He has very good quickness and he needs to use that to his advantage by getting in the lane and DISHING it not SHOOTING it. He seemed to refuse to get the ball into Nichols' hands not because he didn't want to but probably because he didn't know how to with all that pressure.

He seemed at times to be showing the same tentativeness that Joe showed in his first 2 seasons. Playing too controlled. The one time he gave up the wide open three, only to travel when trying to drive the ball looked awful familiar.

I don't know about the comparison to Joe. But I hope he gets to be on Joe's level or close.
But the eye test... I don't see much.

(11-19-2014 01:40 PM)memphissince86 Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 01:29 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 01:22 PM)tharmon15 Wrote:  Pookie looked like a walk-on in the first half. Scared. to. death. However, I appreciate his effort on D and on offense even. He surely will settle down as the season progresses. He has very good quickness and he needs to use that to his advantage by getting in the lane and DISHING it not SHOOTING it. He seemed to refuse to get the ball into Nichols' hands not because he didn't want to but probably because he didn't know how to with all that pressure.

He seemed at times to be showing the same tentativeness that Joe showed in his first 2 seasons. Playing too controlled. The one time he gave up the wide open three, only to travel when trying to drive the ball looked awful familiar.

I don't know about the comparison to Joe. But I hope he gets to be on Joe's level or close.
But the eye test... I don't see much.

He's not the same type of PG that Joe was. I was just saying that he seemed to be straining against his reigns, or fighting his instincts a bit. Trying to play too controlled, or too afraid to commit any mistakes and he sort of took himself out of the game.

Pookie looked exactly like most freshman point guards in their first major college game.

Seem to remember DWash being completely lost early on. Even took DRose a little while.

Let him get a few games under his belt before we draw any conclusions.[/b]

(11-19-2014 12:20 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  Markell isn't a PG. So, between Pookie and Kedren Johnson:
- Pookie seems to be a better ball handler (relatively speaking)
- Pookie has been in the program longer
- Pookie has more eligibility remaining

Should Pastner do like Fuente did with Lynch, and make Pookie his starter and take his lumps while he learns?

I've said everything you just said said in other threads. Pookie at the point and Markel at the 2. Let em play through the mistakes.

Whoever at PG
Burrell at SG
King at SF
Nichols at PF
I guess Shaq at C, he's played better than transfer dude, barely

(11-19-2014 02:09 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Whoever at PG
Burrell at SG
King at SF
Nichols at PF
I guess Shaq at C, he's played better than transfer dude, barely

I agree with this lineup....but I think Shaq will be fine.