There's an opening on the steelers. That would have some of the best players in the MAC all time.

(11-20-2014 08:20 AM)Big_Man Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 10:56 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 10:45 PM)NSwanson89 Wrote:  I think he should go to New England with Jimmy G. Coach
Bellypick uses random forgotten players all the time

That or Green Bay. Both teams cultivate their players for the long term.

So you believe that Lynch would have beaten out Matt Flynn and Scott Tolzien?

Or perhaps a RB and beaten out James Starks or Dujuan Harris?

THE Dujuan Harris?

(11-20-2014 08:36 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:20 AM)Big_Man Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 10:56 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 10:45 PM)NSwanson89 Wrote:  I think he should go to New England with Jimmy G. Coach
Bellypick uses random forgotten players all the time

That or Green Bay. Both teams cultivate their players for the long term.

So you believe that Lynch would have beaten out Matt Flynn and Scott Tolzien?

Or perhaps a RB and beaten out James Starks or Dujuan Harris?

THE Dujuan Harris?

I think that is a valid question. Where was your outcry when Jacksonville cut DuJuan Harris in 2012 after being an undrafted rookie free agent? Anyone who is upset about the Bears cutting him needs to be upset with every UDFA that is ever cut.

(11-20-2014 09:19 AM)NorthernBear Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:36 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:20 AM)Big_Man Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 10:56 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 10:45 PM)NSwanson89 Wrote:  I think he should go to New England with Jimmy G. Coach
Bellypick uses random forgotten players all the time

That or Green Bay. Both teams cultivate their players for the long term.

So you believe that Lynch would have beaten out Matt Flynn and Scott Tolzien?

Or perhaps a RB and beaten out James Starks or Dujuan Harris?

THE Dujuan Harris?

I think that is a valid question. Where was your outcry when Jacksonville cut DuJuan Harris in 2012 after being an undrafted rookie free agent? Anyone who is upset about the Bears cutting him needs to be upset with every UDFA that is ever cut.

Well, that depends. Is every UDFA told that they'll be tried at a bunch of different spots and basically sold that they can use them in a bunch of different ways, and then told that though they're not getting reps in practices, they'll get reps in games, and then not get reps in games? If so, then yea.

(11-20-2014 09:47 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 09:19 AM)NorthernBear Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:36 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:20 AM)Big_Man Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 10:56 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  That or Green Bay. Both teams cultivate their players for the long term.

So you believe that Lynch would have beaten out Matt Flynn and Scott Tolzien?

Or perhaps a RB and beaten out James Starks or Dujuan Harris?

THE Dujuan Harris?

I think that is a valid question. Where was your outcry when Jacksonville cut DuJuan Harris in 2012 after being an undrafted rookie free agent? Anyone who is upset about the Bears cutting him needs to be upset with every UDFA that is ever cut.

Well, that depends. Is every UDFA told that they'll be tried at a bunch of different spots and basically sold that they can use them in a bunch of different ways, and then told that though they're not getting reps in practices, they'll get reps in games, and then not get reps in games? If so, then yea.

Most UDFA are told they will get snaps. The players then choose what team they want to try and make. Every UDFA has to WOW in practice if they want a chance. Obviously Lynch wasn't able to do this, even if he had limited snaps. He should be treated no differently than any other UDFA.

My question, would Lynch supporters say the same thing if he played for another college? What if Lynch played for Georgia Southern? Or FIU? Perhaps if he played for Toledo? Would you be this upset? Would you realize that the guy had a great college career, but just can't translate to the NFL? Lynch really benefited from the NIU QB system. Unfortunately for Lynch and his NIU supporters, that doesn't necessarily translate to the much faster, stronger and better NFL.

(11-20-2014 10:02 AM)NorthernBear Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 09:47 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 09:19 AM)NorthernBear Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:36 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:20 AM)Big_Man Wrote:  So you believe that Lynch would have beaten out Matt Flynn and Scott Tolzien?

Or perhaps a RB and beaten out James Starks or Dujuan Harris?

THE Dujuan Harris?

I think that is a valid question. Where was your outcry when Jacksonville cut DuJuan Harris in 2012 after being an undrafted rookie free agent? Anyone who is upset about the Bears cutting him needs to be upset with every UDFA that is ever cut.

Well, that depends. Is every UDFA told that they'll be tried at a bunch of different spots and basically sold that they can use them in a bunch of different ways, and then told that though they're not getting reps in practices, they'll get reps in games, and then not get reps in games? If so, then yea.

Most UDFA are told they will get snaps. The players then choose what team they want to try and make. Every UDFA has to WOW in practice if they want a chance. Obviously Lynch wasn't able to do this, even if he had limited snaps. He should be treated no differently than any other UDFA.

My question, would Lynch supporters say the same thing if he played for another college? What if Lynch played for Georgia Southern? Or FIU? Perhaps if he played for Toledo? Would you be this upset? Would you realize that the guy had a great college career, but just can't translate to the NFL? Lynch really benefited from the NIU QB system. Unfortunately for Lynch and his NIU supporters, that doesn't necessarily translate to the much faster, stronger and better NFL.

We wouldn't know the details of it if he played for a different college because we wouldn't be following that player. I would think it was equally wrong if that player was promised something that didn't come close to happening.

I'm not too concerned about it, he can try again next year, or try to play in Canada. If that doesn't happen, it wasn't meant to be.

(11-20-2014 10:02 AM)NorthernBear Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 09:47 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 09:19 AM)NorthernBear Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:36 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-20-2014 08:20 AM)Big_Man Wrote:  So you believe that Lynch would have beaten out Matt Flynn and Scott Tolzien?

Or perhaps a RB and beaten out James Starks or Dujuan Harris?

THE Dujuan Harris?

I think that is a valid question. Where was your outcry when Jacksonville cut DuJuan Harris in 2012 after being an undrafted rookie free agent? Anyone who is upset about the Bears cutting him needs to be upset with every UDFA that is ever cut.

Well, that depends. Is every UDFA told that they'll be tried at a bunch of different spots and basically sold that they can use them in a bunch of different ways, and then told that though they're not getting reps in practices, they'll get reps in games, and then not get reps in games? If so, then yea.

Most UDFA are told they will get snaps. The players then choose what team they want to try and make. Every UDFA has to WOW in practice if they want a chance. Obviously Lynch wasn't able to do this, even if he had limited snaps. He should be treated no differently than any other UDFA.

My question, would Lynch supporters say the same thing if he played for another college? What if Lynch played for Georgia Southern? Or FIU? Perhaps if he played for Toledo? Would you be this upset? Would you realize that the guy had a great college career, but just can't translate to the NFL? Lynch really benefited from the NIU QB system. Unfortunately for Lynch and his NIU supporters, that doesn't necessarily translate to the much faster, stronger and better NFL.

Would I root for Lynch if he was on another team? no. but once a huskie always a huskie. do i think sam hurd was set up to the extent he deserves his sentence? no. i'm rooting for a better outcome for him too.

Look i get it, Yesman obviously despises Lynch. him and i have butt heads on other threads on this. Do i think Lynch is the best thing since sliced bread? no. But much like Garaffalo is studying under Brady and Turner studied under Tomilson, I think Lynch could benefit from a team that develops players (Green Bay/New England), not a team that grabs the hot guy.

The Packers have a total of six guys on their team that they didn't draft. FRIGGIN' SIX! thats unheard of.

And yes, I do keep tabs on Tyler Tettleton and Dan LaFevor.

(11-19-2014 11:10 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20141...141118289/

A sad but true rendering of what happened to Lynch.

This article is nonsense. The Bears don't need publicity stunts to sell season tickets. They aren't the Tampa Bay Rays. I find it extremely difficult to believe the Bears intentionally screwed with a good, hard working kid like Jordan Lynch.

Lynch simply does not have the speed to be an NFL tailback or safety. Would his skill set as a QB translate to the pros? I don't know but I think it unlikely. Did anyone ever see evidence in college that he could throw efficiently and accurately?

I think he went the wrong direction. Instead of losing weight, he should have gained it and tried to catch on as a fullback like Michael Robinson. I could see him carving out a career at that position.

A large portion of Lynch's nfl mishap has to be put on him and his agent. NFL teams were basically pleading with him to switch to RB. When he did RB drills at the combine he and his team should've been smart enough to let the QB dreams die and learn the RB position.

That 6 player stat is amazing by the Packers. Although if number 12 goes down, those drafted players do not look nearly as impressive.

(11-21-2014 07:44 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  A large portion of Lynch's nfl mishap has to be put on him and his agent. NFL teams were basically pleading with him to switch to RB. When he did RB drills at the combine he and his team should've been smart enough to let the QB dreams die and learn the RB position.

I never saw any indication that Lynch wasn't willing to switch to RB.

(11-21-2014 09:57 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 07:44 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  A large portion of Lynch's nfl mishap has to be put on him and his agent. NFL teams were basically pleading with him to switch to RB. When he did RB drills at the combine he and his team should've been smart enough to let the QB dreams die and learn the RB position.

I never saw any indication that Lynch wasn't willing to switch to RB.

He continued to work with QB coaches and not get help with the RB position until after he signed with the Bears.. When coaches at the NFL Combine tell you to do RB drills, is that not a big hint that maybe you should switch positions?

Obviously he was willing to switch to RB, that's why the Bears signed him. He should've tried being a RB from Day 1. Either he had too big of an ego or he had a dumb*** agent.

(11-21-2014 10:09 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 09:57 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 07:44 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  A large portion of Lynch's nfl mishap has to be put on him and his agent. NFL teams were basically pleading with him to switch to RB. When he did RB drills at the combine he and his team should've been smart enough to let the QB dreams die and learn the RB position.

I never saw any indication that Lynch wasn't willing to switch to RB.

He continued to work with QB coaches and not get help with the RB position until after he signed with the Bears.. When coaches at the NFL Combine tell you to do RB drills, is that not a big hint that maybe you should switch positions?

Obviously he was willing to switch to RB, that's why the Bears signed him. He should've tried being a RB from Day 1. Either he had too big of an ego or he had a dumb*** agent.

I believe that Green Bay's interest in Lynch was as a quarterback, and possibly a wide receiver. They had kept Alex Gillette, the former QB/WR from Eastern Michigan on their practice squad for a couple of seasons.

(11-21-2014 12:27 PM)niu79 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 10:09 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 09:57 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 07:44 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  A large portion of Lynch's nfl mishap has to be put on him and his agent. NFL teams were basically pleading with him to switch to RB. When he did RB drills at the combine he and his team should've been smart enough to let the QB dreams die and learn the RB position.

I never saw any indication that Lynch wasn't willing to switch to RB.

He continued to work with QB coaches and not get help with the RB position until after he signed with the Bears.. When coaches at the NFL Combine tell you to do RB drills, is that not a big hint that maybe you should switch positions?

Obviously he was willing to switch to RB, that's why the Bears signed him. He should've tried being a RB from Day 1. Either he had too big of an ego or he had a dumb*** agent.

I believe that Green Bay's interest in Lynch was as a quarterback, and possibly a wide receiver. They had kept Alex Gillette, the former QB/WR from Eastern Michigan on their practice squad for a couple of seasons.

Lynch at WR would be worse than RB. I do think the fullback idea COULD work for him. Although that position is used sparingly in the NFL these days.

(11-19-2014 11:54 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  The article is not supposed to tout how good Lynch could have been in the NFL. what it does is show how dishonest they were with him about giving him a fair shot, and points out that seeing as how Trestman has lost the entire locker room at this point, a guy like Lynch being around, playing his best day in and day out would be a good influence on the team.

Again, NOTHING to do with how Lynch should be in the NFL. Nothing. It's about the hypocrisy of trestmen and Emery:

Trestman promised that in the final preseason game, "You'll see quite a bit of him," "He'll get an opportunity," and, "It will be a good opportunity to show what he can do."

Lynch agent Cliff Brady told the Sun-Times in May that the Bears pitched him hard, saying, "Trestman told him, 'I have 10 different things I can do with you. Come with us. Come here and we'll make it work.' "

By the time Trestman was done ignoring him, and going back on the assurance that they would showcase him if they didn't have a spot for him, Lynch had given away a year of his professional life and taken on a new position and body for a team that never had any intention of giving him a chance to make the team -- or even the practice squad.

Seriously, between the horrific special teams and the daily turnover on the practice squad, the 2014 Bears couldn't find room for a player actually willing to hit someone and able to follow simple directions?

But this isn't about whether Lynch could have made a difference in the Bears' season, whether he could have made it in the NFL with another team, or his future as a quarterback.

It's a simple question of fairness.

Why did they do it? For the feel-good story? Was it nothing more than a publicity stunt?


So again...the article is not about how Lynch should be in the NFL, or that he should be on a practice squad somewhere. It's about how terrible he was treated and how he was lied to before he signed and after he signed with the bears. It's about how if he could know what he knows now he NEVER would have opted to go to the Bears

I didn't read this whole thread. It seems obvious what the article was about, as is well explained here. Reading skills aren't as obvious these days as they should be.