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Florida: Sources tell us that Marshall head coach Doc Holliday is very much a candidate for the head coaching vacancy at Florida. Holliday has served as head coach at Marshall for the past five seasons. From 2005-2007 he was on Urban Meyer’s staff at Florida serving as associate head coach and recruiting coordinator. Holliday went on to join the staff at West Virginia where he served two years as associate head coach before being named head coach at Marshall following the 2009 season. Holliday won 10 games at Marshall last season and currently has his team 10-0.
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Any idea of guys on the Marshall staff who could possibly replace Holiday if he heads to Florida? Would y'all promote from within or bring someone from the outside?
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(11-18-2014 10:44 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  Any idea of guys on the Marshall staff who could possibly replace Holiday if he heads to Florida? Would y'all promote from within or bring someone from the outside?

I wouldn't mind giving Legg a shot, provided he could keep the majority of the offensive staff together
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RE: Marshalls Holiday
(11-18-2014 09:31 AM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  http://www.footballscoop.com

Florida: Sources tell us that Marshall head coach Doc Holliday is very much a candidate for the head coaching vacancy at Florida. Holliday has served as head coach at Marshall for the past five seasons. From 2005-2007 he was on Urban Meyer’s staff at Florida serving as associate head coach and recruiting coordinator. Holliday went on to join the staff at West Virginia where he served two years as associate head coach before being named head coach at Marshall following the 2009 season. Holliday won 10 games at Marshall last season and currently has his team 10-0.

I trust Football Scoop about as much as I do Bleacher Report. They get most of their info from message boards, just like this one. Everyone in Huntington knew Doc's name would be kicked around if Muschamp was fired/resigned.

As I said it isn't improbable that Doc is hired at Florida, but their AD doesn't have a track record of hiring older coaches. And Doc in coaching circles falls in that category at 57.

(11-18-2014 10:44 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  Any idea of guys on the Marshall staff who could possibly replace Holiday if he heads to Florida? Would y'all promote from within or bring someone from the outside?

There are a few on the staff that I wouldn't mind having a shot and think they would do well:

Bill Legg - Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks Coach. He has been the man behind the play calling since Doc has been here. He disappeared for 3 weeks in 2010 at the end of spring ball when it was learned he was at one of Chip Kelly's clinic's to learn his system.

Todd Hartley - Tight Ends/Recruiting Coordinator. Hartley has only been a coach since 2009 and has been at Marshall since 2011 and become Recruiting Coordinator after JaJaun Seider left to go back to the Hole. He is one of the brightest young coaches Ive seen.
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RE: Marshalls Holiday
(11-18-2014 11:53 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(11-18-2014 09:31 AM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  http://www.footballscoop.com

Florida: Sources tell us that Marshall head coach Doc Holliday is very much a candidate for the head coaching vacancy at Florida. Holliday has served as head coach at Marshall for the past five seasons. From 2005-2007 he was on Urban Meyer’s staff at Florida serving as associate head coach and recruiting coordinator. Holliday went on to join the staff at West Virginia where he served two years as associate head coach before being named head coach at Marshall following the 2009 season. Holliday won 10 games at Marshall last season and currently has his team 10-0.

I trust Football Scoop about as much as I do Bleacher Report. They get most of their info from message boards, just like this one. Everyone in Huntington knew Doc's name would be kicked around if Muschamp was fired/resigned.

As I said it isn't improbable that Doc is hired at Florida, but their AD doesn't have a track record of hiring older coaches. And Doc in coaching circles falls in that category at 57.

(11-18-2014 10:44 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  Any idea of guys on the Marshall staff who could possibly replace Holiday if he heads to Florida? Would y'all promote from within or bring someone from the outside?

There are a few on the staff that I wouldn't mind having a shot and think they would do well:

Bill Legg - Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks Coach. He has been the man behind the play calling since Doc has been here. He disappeared for 3 weeks in 2010 at the end of spring ball when it was learned he was at one of Chip Kelly's clinic's to learn his system.

Todd Hartley - Tight Ends/Recruiting Coordinator. Hartley has only been a coach since 2009 and has been at Marshall since 2011 and become Recruiting Coordinator after JaJaun Seider left to go back to the Hole. He is one of the brightest young coaches Ive seen.

If Doc goes to Florida, most of the staff is gone with him. I would look at an up and coming OC or a winning FCS coach.
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(11-18-2014 02:57 PM)triplegood Wrote:  If Doc goes to Florida, most of the staff is gone with him. I would look at an up and coming OC or a winning FCS coach.

I agree he takes most if not the whole staff with him, including one of the most important coaches in SC Scott Sinclair. I was just answering the question of is there anyone on the staff that Marshall may look at. And those 2 I think would keep us on the right track.

If we lose Holliday these are some names I would go after if I was Hamrick:

Bill Clark- Sorry UAB but the guy flat out knows how to coach and with UABs future up in the air well who knows.

Beau Baldwin- Eastern Washington...I don't know what kind of ties Baldwin has to the east but all he does is win. He is 56-22 since 2008 with a IAA National Title

Rob Ash- Montana State...Again I don't know what east coast ties he has but Montana State was a doormat before Ash got there and is 65-30 since 2006 and has won the Big Sky 3 times. The downside with Ash is he is 6 years older than Holliday right now at 63.

I liked Rob Ambrose at Towson until he tanked this year. Once he lost Terrance West last year he hasn't found any answers. Then there is always Chris MCcomas who likes to Chuck The Pigskin. And well he is a Marshall guy. 04-cheers
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RE: Marshalls Holiday
(11-18-2014 02:57 PM)triplegood Wrote:  
(11-18-2014 11:53 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(11-18-2014 09:31 AM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  http://www.footballscoop.com

Florida: Sources tell us that Marshall head coach Doc Holliday is very much a candidate for the head coaching vacancy at Florida. Holliday has served as head coach at Marshall for the past five seasons. From 2005-2007 he was on Urban Meyer’s staff at Florida serving as associate head coach and recruiting coordinator. Holliday went on to join the staff at West Virginia where he served two years as associate head coach before being named head coach at Marshall following the 2009 season. Holliday won 10 games at Marshall last season and currently has his team 10-0.

I trust Football Scoop about as much as I do Bleacher Report. They get most of their info from message boards, just like this one. Everyone in Huntington knew Doc's name would be kicked around if Muschamp was fired/resigned.

As I said it isn't improbable that Doc is hired at Florida, but their AD doesn't have a track record of hiring older coaches. And Doc in coaching circles falls in that category at 57.

(11-18-2014 10:44 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  Any idea of guys on the Marshall staff who could possibly replace Holiday if he heads to Florida? Would y'all promote from within or bring someone from the outside?

There are a few on the staff that I wouldn't mind having a shot and think they would do well:

Bill Legg - Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks Coach. He has been the man behind the play calling since Doc has been here. He disappeared for 3 weeks in 2010 at the end of spring ball when it was learned he was at one of Chip Kelly's clinic's to learn his system.

Todd Hartley - Tight Ends/Recruiting Coordinator. Hartley has only been a coach since 2009 and has been at Marshall since 2011 and become Recruiting Coordinator after JaJaun Seider left to go back to the Hole. He is one of the brightest young coaches Ive seen.

If Doc goes to Florida, most of the staff is gone with him. I would look at an up and coming OC or a winning FCS coach.

You think they'd rather be coordinators at UF than Head Coach at Marshall?
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RE: Marshalls Holiday
Heater and Mirabel are the two guys I would love to keep, but both would go with Holiday even if we hired Legg as HC.

It sucks, but this is the life you live in the G5. Even without losing Doc I would bet we lose both coordinators anyway.
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(11-18-2014 04:06 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  You think they'd rather be coordinators at UF than Head Coach at Marshall?

I said the same thing about Tony Petersen when he went to the hell hole he is in now.

(11-18-2014 04:29 PM)banker Wrote:  Heater and Mirabel are the two guys I would love to keep, but both would go with Holiday even if we hired Legg as HC.

It sucks, but this is the life you live in the G5. Even without losing Doc I would bet we lose both coordinators anyway.

We probably lose Heater after this year with or without Doc. The guy is a nomad coach. He hasn't stayed anywhere past 3 years besides his 5 year stint at Colorado from 93-98. If Doc is still here after all the dust settles I think we have our future DC on staff already. I think Adam Fuller is promoted to DC. He was DC at UTC and had them ranked 6th in IAA in total defense.
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(11-18-2014 05:37 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(11-18-2014 04:06 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  You think they'd rather be coordinators at UF than Head Coach at Marshall?

I said the same thing about Tony Petersen when he went to the hell hole he is in now.

I was asking a serious question. I don't see the need to take a shot at Tech. I'm sure you can have him back if you want to make him head coach.
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Doc has ties to Florida, but I think his age works against him there plus Florida is one of the few P5 schools that could take a good head coach from another P5 school. WVU will likely be looking for a new coach come December but Luck won't hire Doc. The school I'm most worried about is Kentucky, although I wouldn't rule out Indiana either.

ESPNU says likely candidates for Florida vacancy include: Scott Frost (Oregon O-coordinator), Rich Rodriguez (Florida says not interested) Hugh Freeze (Ole Miss), Brian Kelly (Notre Dame). My money is on Freeze.
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(11-18-2014 09:06 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Doc has ties to Florida, but I think his age works against him there plus Florida is one of the few P5 schools that could take a good head coach from another P5 school. WVU will likely be looking for a new coach come December but Luck won't hire Doc. The school I'm most worried about is Kentucky, although I wouldn't rule out Indiana either.

ESPNU says likely candidates for Florida vacancy include: Scott Frost (Oregon O-coordinator), Rich Rodriguez (Florida says not interested) Hugh Freeze (Ole Miss), Brian Kelly (Notre Dame). My money is on Freeze.

Where is Drunkerson going. No one is going to hire him and even after this year the Who owes him 7 million dollars if the fire him. Drunkerson doesn't have a buyout clause lower than his salary. Which means he isn't going anywhere for at least 2 maybe 3 years from now.

Why would you be worried about Kentucky or Indiana. I don't think Mark Stoops is going anywhere until next year at least at Kentucky. And well Indiana is Indiana. Neither will have a successful sustained football program in the conferences they are in.
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(11-18-2014 09:49 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(11-18-2014 09:06 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Doc has ties to Florida, but I think his age works against him there plus Florida is one of the few P5 schools that could take a good head coach from another P5 school. WVU will likely be looking for a new coach come December but Luck won't hire Doc. The school I'm most worried about is Kentucky, although I wouldn't rule out Indiana either.

ESPNU says likely candidates for Florida vacancy include: Scott Frost (Oregon O-coordinator), Rich Rodriguez (Florida says not interested) Hugh Freeze (Ole Miss), Brian Kelly (Notre Dame). My money is on Freeze.

Where is Drunkerson going. No one is going to hire him and even after this year the Who owes him 7 million dollars if the fire him. Drunkerson doesn't have a buyout clause lower than his salary. Which means he isn't going anywhere for at least 2 maybe 3 years from now.

Why would you be worried about Kentucky or Indiana. I don't think Mark Stoops is going anywhere until next year at least at Kentucky. And well Indiana is Indiana. Neither will have a successful sustained football program in the conferences they are in.

Wilson is almost certainly gone at Indiana and they can give Doc a big payday. It's close to home and worse case Doc gets a 4 year deal worth $1.4million/yr. That kind of deal and he would be set for life. Kentucky will probably give Stoops one more year. I figure Doc wants to stay close to home so Iowa St. probably not. Can't rule out Purdue, but I figure they want a younger Head coach.
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(11-18-2014 10:10 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Wilson is almost certainly gone at Indiana and they can give Doc a big payday. It's close to home and worse case Doc gets a 4 year deal worth $1.4million/yr. That kind of deal and he would be set for life. Kentucky will probably give Stoops one more year. I figure Doc wants to stay close to home so Iowa St. probably not. Can't rule out Purdue, but I figure they want a younger Head coach.

Doc has been coaching since 1979. And his last 4 years at the Who he was making close to 450K, was making 550K at NC State, 600K at Florida and 450 his last year at the WHO his 2nd stint. If my math is right 5.65 million dollars the 9 years before he got to Marshall. He has made a little over 3 million at Marshall. That's close 9 million he has made since 96. Im sure the guy has invested well and in no need of money.

Doc already has enough money to be set for the rest of his life. Again we are talking about Doc Holliday the man. He has only coached at 4 schools. I stand by it will take someone like Florida to get him to leave. And as long as Luck is in the Hole he will not go there.
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Florida fans see this as a real possibility.
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I watched ESPN last night and they mentioned many names, Doc wasn't one of them. The panel was real high on the OC from Oregon, saying Foley and FL will definitely hire an offensive minded guy. That's not Docs background. They also mentioned Rich Rod, Hugh Freise, Brian Kelly and the Bama OC.

Indiana is a dead end job. You can never win there consistantly. Doc is 57 and has family, farm and a great life in WV. He said he is extremely happy where he is. There are a handful of jobs he would leave for. Most are in the SEC or ACC. jmo.
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(11-19-2014 10:59 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  I watched ESPN last night and they mentioned many names, Doc wasn't one of them. The panel was real high on the OC from Oregon, saying Foley and FL will definitely hire an offensive minded guy. That's not Docs background. They also mentioned Rich Rod, Hugh Freise, Brian Kelly and the Bama OC.

Indiana is a dead end job. You can never win there consistantly. Doc is 57 and has family, farm and a great life in WV. He said he is extremely happy where he is. There are a handful of jobs he would leave for. Most are in the SEC or ACC. jmo.

The only ACC job I could see would be Florida State. And Jimbo isn't going anywhere, anytime soon. VA Tech is a maybe. But I just don't see Beamer going anywhere until it's up to him.

VA Tech will most likely end up at 7-5, and 8-5 if they win their bowl game. They are 5-5 right now and have Wake Forest and UVA left on the schedule. Beamer hasn't had a losing season since 1991 when they went 5-6.
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Everything I am reading from most sports publications, Doc is an other Option at best. Rich Rod is ranked high on this list even though Florida says he's not a possibility.
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