Others Receiving Votes
Notre Dame 118; Clemson 69; LSU 43; Boise State 32; Minnesota 29; Louisville 19; Iowa 7; Miami (Fla.) 6; Texas 5; Texas A&M 3; Cincinnati 3; Stanford 2; Northern Illinois 2; Arkansas 1; West Virginia 1.

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Latest-AmwayUS...d-32992480

(11-16-2014 01:12 PM)BobL Wrote:  Others Receiving Votes
Notre Dame 118; Clemson 69; LSU 43; Boise State 32; Minnesota 29; Louisville 19; Iowa 7; Miami (Fla.) 6; Texas 5; Texas A&M 3; Cincinnati 3; Stanford 2; Northern Illinois 2; Arkansas 1; West Virginia 1.

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Latest-AmwayUS...d-32992480

Hate to say it and I know the coaches poll is based on human votes, but unless Arkansas is ranked in top 25, we should not be getting votes. Being at that game I realized we were just outmatched. Obviously if Arkansas isn't getting many votes, then we shouldn't either

Agreed, it's cool that we are getting votes with 2 losses b/c like the peach bowl discussion it's a huge endorsement of where our program is at.

However, we have absolutely no business being in this discussion. Now if Ark can get bowl eligible and so can NW and we get through OHio and steal one from WMU than maybe at that point it's justified.

Also note that Notre dame is next in line to be ranked and their best win is Stanford. Northwestern should get votes then. ND has wins over Syracuse, Purdue, michigan...

(11-16-2014 01:12 PM)BobL Wrote:  Others Receiving Votes
Notre Dame 118; Clemson 69; LSU 43; Boise State 32; Minnesota 29; Louisville 19; Iowa 7; Miami (Fla.) 6; Texas 5; Texas A&M 3; Cincinnati 3; Stanford 2; Northern Illinois 2; Arkansas 1; West Virginia 1.

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Latest-AmwayUS...d-32992480

Northern Illinois 2; Arkansas 1 West Virginia 1

Really?

Somebody's gotten into our supply of Huskie Koolaid!

This, my fine Huskie friends, is what "reputation" starts to get you......

(11-17-2014 11:07 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  This, my fine Huskie friends, is what "reputation" starts to get you......

To an extent, yes, but at the same time NIU is 8-2.

NIU went into the MAC Championship against Miami 10-2 and they were ranked.

(11-17-2014 11:09 AM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 11:07 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  This, my fine Huskie friends, is what "reputation" starts to get you......

To an extent, yes, but at the same time NIU is 8-2.

NIU went into the MAC Championship against Miami 10-2 and they were ranked.

When it gets to this point in the year, the pollsters look at record and most recent results more than anything else. A team with only 2 losses going into week 13 is almost guaranteed of receiving votes from someone.

(11-16-2014 02:20 PM)JB04 Wrote:  

(11-16-2014 01:12 PM)BobL Wrote:  Others Receiving Votes
Notre Dame 118; Clemson 69; LSU 43; Boise State 32; Minnesota 29; Louisville 19; Iowa 7; Miami (Fla.) 6; Texas 5; Texas A&M 3; Cincinnati 3; Stanford 2; Northern Illinois 2; Arkansas 1; West Virginia 1.

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Latest-AmwayUS...d-32992480

Hate to say it and I know the coaches poll is based on human votes, but unless Arkansas is ranked in top 25, we should not be getting votes. Being at that game I realized we were just outmatched. Obviously if Arkansas isn't getting many votes, then we shouldn't either

So should Virgina Tech be ranked in the top 10 because they beat tOSU? It doesn't work like this, never has, never will. NIU was outplayed in that game for sure but it is based on overall record and recent results as 7 said. Losing at the beginning of the year is better then later when you add the human element. Also based on reputation NIU will get the benefit of the doubt, which shows how far the program has really come.

How for the life of me Notre Dame gets any votes is beyond me.

(11-17-2014 12:17 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  How for the life of me Notre Dame gets any votes is beyond me.

reputation. but yeah. i agree. for every complaint about NIU's SOS, i roll my eyes and look at ND and their prestigious schedule against the Coast Guard and the University of Blind and Disabled Hemophiliacs.

Yeah, it may seem not just for NIU to have more votes than Arkansas, but I am not going to say NIU is getting something it doesn't deserve when Notre Dame has 50 times the votes NIU does, after Notre Dame got beat AT HOME, against a team NIU handled in NU.

Quote:Yeah, it may seem not just for NIU to have more votes than Arkansas, but I am not going to say NIU is getting something it doesn't deserve when Notre Dame has 50 times the votes NIU does, after Notre Dame got beat AT HOME, against a team NIU handled in NU.

Yeah. One has to look at the whole picture, not just an isolated game. For instance...

WMU beat @BGSU, therefore WMU > BGSU
Indiana lost @BGSU, therefore WMU > Indiana
Indiana beat Missouri, therefore WMU > Missouri

NIU beat @Northwestern, therefore NIU > NU
NU beat Wisconsin, therefore NIU > Wisconsin
NU beat Notre Dame, therefore NIU > Notre Dame
NU beat Penn State, therefore NIU > Penn State

(11-18-2014 05:05 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:Yeah, it may seem not just for NIU to have more votes than Arkansas, but I am not going to say NIU is getting something it doesn't deserve when Notre Dame has 50 times the votes NIU does, after Notre Dame got beat AT HOME, against a team NIU handled in NU.

Yeah. One has to look at the whole picture, not just an isolated game. For instance...

WMU beat @BGSU, therefore WMU > BGSU
Indiana lost @BGSU, therefore WMU > Indiana
Indiana beat Missouri, therefore WMU > Missouri

NIU beat @Northwestern, therefore NIU > NU
NU beat Wisconsin, therefore NIU > Wisconsin
NU beat Notre Dame, therefore NIU > Notre Dame
NU beat Penn State, therefore NIU > Penn State

Ahhh there's a website for that: http://www.myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/

its all in good fun, but ND always seems to get the benefit of the doubt while most other non-SEC schools get the doubt.

(11-18-2014 05:08 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 05:05 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:Yeah, it may seem not just for NIU to have more votes than Arkansas, but I am not going to say NIU is getting something it doesn't deserve when Notre Dame has 50 times the votes NIU does, after Notre Dame got beat AT HOME, against a team NIU handled in NU.

Yeah. One has to look at the whole picture, not just an isolated game. For instance...

WMU beat @BGSU, therefore WMU > BGSU
Indiana lost @BGSU, therefore WMU > Indiana
Indiana beat Missouri, therefore WMU > Missouri

NIU beat @Northwestern, therefore NIU > NU
NU beat Wisconsin, therefore NIU > Wisconsin
NU beat Notre Dame, therefore NIU > Notre Dame
NU beat Penn State, therefore NIU > Penn State

Ahhh there's a website for that: http://www.myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/

its all in good fun, but ND always seems to get the benefit of the doubt while most other non-SEC schools get the doubt.

Hehe

Div I - FBS N Illinois beat Northwestern 23 - 15
Div I - FBS Northwestern beat Penn St 29 - 6
Div I - FBS Penn St beat Indiana 13 - 7
Div I - FBS Indiana beat Missouri 31 - 27
Div I - FBS Missouri beat Texas A&M 34 - 27
Div I - FBS Texas A&M beat Auburn 41 - 38
Div I - FBS Auburn beat Mississippi 35 - 31
Div I - FBS Mississippi beat Alabama 23 - 17

(11-17-2014 11:07 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  This, my fine Huskie friends, is what "reputation" starts to get you......

Yep