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Bowl Analysis - Week 12
There are 12 Access/Semfinal bowl slots. The current projection on those slots from CBS are 4 SEC, 2 Big 12, 2 Big 10, 1 Pac 12, 2 ACC, 1 CUSA. The change from last week is +1 from SEC and -1 to Pac 12. . This is important as it affects which bowls will be open.

The # of slots listed below are only primary slots.

SEC (4 Access/Semi slots, 9 additional, 13 total) - There are 8 in, with Florida, South Carolina, and Tennessee all having very favorable schedules. Arkansas and Kentucky are the other two, and I think one of them gets in. The Indy Bowl being open will likely require 4 SEC teams making the access/semi slots. I detail the scenarios below.

Prediction: 13 slots, 12 teams, Independence open.

Big 12 (2 Access/Semi slots, 5 additional, 7 total) - Six teams are in, and only Oklahoma State is left on the bubble. Their schedule is not favorable.

Prediction: 7 slots, 6 teams, Cactus open

Big 10 (2 Access/Semi slots, 8 additional, 10 total) - Nine teams are in, with Michigan, Northwestern, and Illinois on the bubble. One will make it.

Prediction: 10 slots, 10 teams

Pac 12 (1 Access/Semi slots, 6 additional, 7 total) - Six are in, with Stanford, Washington, Oregon St, and Cal close. All but one will make it.

Prediction: 7 slots, 9 teams

ACC (2 Access/Semi slots, 9 additional, 11 total) - The messiest bowl picture is getting clearer. Eight teams are in, with Va Tech and UNC in the best shape to get eligible, and Pitt and UVA on the outside looking in.

Prediction: 11 slots, 10 teams, with Notre Dame making 11

AAC (0 Access/Semi slots, 5 additional, 5 total) - The loss of the access slot leaves the AAC searching for an extra bowl for it's final bowl eligible team. The rule around the secondary Indy bowl pick seems sketchy, but for now I bet that's where they go.

Prediction: 5 slots, 6 teams

CUSA (1 Access/Semi slots, 5 additional, 6 total) - Four are in. MT, UAB, and WKU all have the schedule to get their final needed victory, but who knows. I think they all get there, but won't be surprised if one slips up.

Prediction: 6 slots, 7 teams

MWC (0 Access/Semi slots, 6 additional, 6 total) - Five teams are in. SDSU is in good shape. Fresno St and Wyoming are alive, but don't think they make it.

Prediction: 6 slots, 6 teams

MAC (0 Access/Semi slots, 5 additional, 5 total) - They have 5 in, with Ohio, Akron, and Buffalo alive. One of those gets in.

Prediction: 5 slots, 6 teams

SBC (0 Access/Semi slots, 3 additional, 3 total) - GaSo, App St, and Idaho are ineligible for either FBS transition or academic reasons. Texas State needs one more win to join the other 3 eligible teams.

Prediction: 3 slots, 4 teams

Independent (0 Access/Semi slots, 3 additional, 3 total) - Army, Navy, and BYU all have agreements with bowls, while Notre Dame has the ACC deal. ND is out of the access picture in the latest CBS projection, meaning they will take an ACC slot. Army will not fill theirs.

Prediction: 3 slots, 3 teams

Summary
SEC: Independence open (CUSA/AAC? backup)
Big 12: Cactus open
Big 10: 1 extra team
Pac 12: 2 extra teams
ACC: with ND, they will come out without an extra slot/team
AAC: 1 extra team
CUSA: 1 extra team
MWC: none
MAC: 1 extra team
SBC: 1 extra team
Indy: Armed Forces open, Notre Dame uses ACC slot

Yesterday was not a good day for those of us looking for that extra bowl slot. The Indy bowl opening is hanging on by a thread, the Pac 12 and Big 10 did no favors with upsets, and the SEC is going to have plenty of teams.

In summary, Indy, Cactus, and Armed Forces are the only three open slots, with B1G/P12/P12/AAC/CUSA/MAC/SBC being the extra teams. Indy takes an AAC/CUSA depending on who is available (La Tech may be our only shot), Cactus likely takes a B1G, and P12 rounds out Armed Forces, case closed.

For the Independence Bowl to be open, we need:

- 4 SEC teams in access/semis
and
- 1 of ARK/UK/TENN/FLA/USC to not get bowl eligible

OR

- 3 SEC teams in access/semis
and
- 2 of ARK/UK/TENN/FLA/USC to not get bowl eligible

This is not as easy as it looks, given the favorable schedules for TENN/FLA/USC

ARK (5-5) vs Ole Miss, @ Missouri
UK (5-6) @Louisville
TENN (5-5) vs Missouri, @ Vandy
FLA (5-4) vs EKU, @ Fla State
USC (5-5) vs USA, @ Clemson

That said, I think we're going to have to hope for 4 SEC teams in access/semi bowls. And hell, at the end of the day it sure isn't a sure thing that we get 7 eligible teams, and have the Indy bowl select one of our teams over an AAC team.
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Once again thanks for thêse updates!
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(11-16-2014 11:34 AM)MTowho Wrote:  There are 12 Access/Semfinal bowl slots. The current projection on those slots from CBS are 4 SEC, 2 Big 12, 2 Big 10, 1 Pac 12, 2 ACC, 1 CUSA. The change from last week is +1 from SEC and -1 to Pac 12. . This is important as it affects which bowls will be open.

The # of slots listed below are only primary slots.

SEC (4 Access/Semi slots, 9 additional, 13 total) - There are 8 in, with Florida, South Carolina, and Tennessee all having very favorable schedules. Arkansas and Kentucky are the other two, and I think one of them gets in. The Indy Bowl being open will likely require 4 SEC teams making the access/semi slots. I detail the scenarios below.

Prediction: 13 slots, 12 teams, Independence open.

Big 12 (2 Access/Semi slots, 5 additional, 7 total) - Six teams are in, and only Oklahoma State is left on the bubble. Their schedule is not favorable.

Prediction: 7 slots, 6 teams, Cactus open

Big 10 (2 Access/Semi slots, 8 additional, 10 total) - Nine teams are in, with Michigan, Northwestern, and Illinois on the bubble. One will make it.

Prediction: 10 slots, 10 teams

Pac 12 (1 Access/Semi slots, 6 additional, 7 total) - Six are in, with Stanford, Washington, Oregon St, and Cal close. All but one will make it.

Prediction: 7 slots, 9 teams

ACC (2 Access/Semi slots, 9 additional, 11 total) - The messiest bowl picture is getting clearer. Eight teams are in, with Va Tech and UNC in the best shape to get eligible, and Pitt and UVA on the outside looking in.

Prediction: 11 slots, 10 teams, with Notre Dame making 11

AAC (0 Access/Semi slots, 5 additional, 5 total) - The loss of the access slot leaves the AAC searching for an extra bowl for it's final bowl eligible team. The rule around the secondary Indy bowl pick seems sketchy, but for now I bet that's where they go.

Prediction: 5 slots, 6 teams

CUSA (1 Access/Semi slots, 5 additional, 6 total) - Four are in. MT, UAB, and WKU all have the schedule to get their final needed victory, but who knows. I think they all get there, but won't be surprised if one slips up.

Prediction: 6 slots, 7 teams

MWC (0 Access/Semi slots, 6 additional, 6 total) - Five teams are in. SDSU is in good shape. Fresno St and Wyoming are alive, but don't think they make it.

Prediction: 6 slots, 6 teams

MAC (0 Access/Semi slots, 5 additional, 5 total) - They have 5 in, with Ohio, Akron, and Buffalo alive. One of those gets in.

Prediction: 5 slots, 6 teams

SBC (0 Access/Semi slots, 3 additional, 3 total) - GaSo, App St, and Idaho are ineligible for either FBS transition or academic reasons. Texas State needs one more win to join the other 3 eligible teams.

Prediction: 3 slots, 4 teams

Independent (0 Access/Semi slots, 3 additional, 3 total) - Army, Navy, and BYU all have agreements with bowls, while Notre Dame has the ACC deal. ND is out of the access picture in the latest CBS projection, meaning they will take an ACC slot. Army will not fill theirs.

Prediction: 3 slots, 3 teams

Summary
SEC: Independence open (CUSA/AAC? backup)
Big 12: Cactus open
Big 10: 1 extra team
Pac 12: 2 extra teams
ACC: with ND, they will come out without an extra slot/team
AAC: 1 extra team
CUSA: 1 extra team
MWC: none
MAC: 1 extra team
SBC: 1 extra team
Indy: Armed Forces open, Notre Dame uses ACC slot

Yesterday was not a good day for those of us looking for that extra bowl slot. The Indy bowl opening is hanging on by a thread, the Pac 12 and Big 10 did no favors with upsets, and the SEC is going to have plenty of teams.

In summary, Indy, Cactus, and Armed Forces are the only three open slots, with B1G/P12/P12/AAC/CUSA/MAC/SBC being the extra teams. Indy takes an AAC/CUSA depending on who is available (La Tech may be our only shot), Cactus likely takes a B1G, and P12 rounds out Armed Forces, case closed.

For the Independence Bowl to be open, we need:

- 4 SEC teams in access/semis
and
- 1 of ARK/UK/TENN/FLA/USC to not get bowl eligible

OR

- 3 SEC teams in access/semis
and
- 2 of ARK/UK/TENN/FLA/USC to not get bowl eligible

This is not as easy as it looks, given the favorable schedules for TENN/FLA/USC

ARK (5-5) vs Ole Miss, @ Missouri
UK (5-6) @Louisville
TENN (5-5) vs Missouri, @ Vandy
FLA (5-4) vs EKU, @ Fla State
USC (5-5) vs USA, @ Clemson

That said, I think we're going to have to hope for 4 SEC teams in access/semi bowls. And hell, at the end of the day it sure isn't a sure thing that we get 7 eligible teams, and have the Indy bowl select one of our teams over an AAC team.

I feel good Indy would pick Tech over an AAC bit you never know. I spoke to an Indy committee member at the UTSA game. However I would almost rather Tech play a Penn state or Michigan in Dallas. Either way we would be blessed.
11-16-2014 02:13 PM
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BTW, MTwho does an amazing job with these threads every week!!
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RE: Bowl Analysis - Week 12
What about the Armed Forces bowl? CUSA is the backup and since Army isn't eligible, we should gain a slot there.
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(11-16-2014 02:19 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  What about the Armed Forces bowl? CUSA is the backup and since Army isn't eligible, we should gain a slot there.

Link? I don't recall that being the case.
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(11-16-2014 02:56 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  http://campusinsiders.com/news/2014-2015...wl-tie-ins

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/projections

Both ESPN analysts have UAB taking that slot to play Houston.

If this is the case and the Armed Forces has to take CUSA and Indy has to take AAC, then would a B10/P12 have to stay home?
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It really grates on my nerves to see Tech in Boca in so many projections. It proves to me they aren't even trying.
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(11-16-2014 02:56 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  http://campusinsiders.com/news/2014-2015...wl-tie-ins

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/projections

Both ESPN analysts have UAB taking that slot to play Houston.

You gotta think that the AFB would be looking long and hard at a Rice-UH matchup. An Armed Forces Bayou Bucket Bowl, if you will.
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(11-16-2014 03:22 PM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  It really grates on my nerves to see Tech in Boca in so many projections. It proves to me they aren't even trying.

I think there are scenarios where Tech could end up in Boca or Hawaii. Now in the above scenario where I assume Marshall wins the conference but doesn't get the access bowl. They pick HOD as champs. CUSA gets Armed Forces but not Indy. I would think Rice or Tech would be in Armed Forces..The one that isn't would be in Hawaii and UAB would be in Boca. I'm not sure what it is that gives us the secondary armed forces tie in but not Indy. If it's up to Indy, I would think they'd want Tech over Temple. If it's up to CUSA I would think we'd want Indy over Armed Forces.
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I disagree. I feel like tech would bring more people to Fort Worth than Rice. It would suck to win the division and then be exiled to Hawaii or Florida when the team we would have beaten out would get a bowl game that is just as close to us as them. That's would suck.
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I'd rather be in Hawaii playing a MWC team than playing a MAC team in Boca or the Bahamas
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(11-16-2014 06:14 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  I'd rather be in Hawaii playing a MWC team than playing a MAC team in Boca or the Bahamas

Outside of the distance, I think Hawaii is one of our best bowls. Primetime ESPN, Christmas Eve, no other games on. I'd prefer Pac-12. But MWC is better than MAC or Belt.
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True, but I like most of our fan base can't make it to Hawaii the day before Christmas.
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(11-16-2014 06:29 PM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  True, but I like most of our fan base can't make it to Hawaii the day before Christmas.

Me either. I can't make it to Bahamas or Boca either. The benefit to the school that gets Hawaii is great exposure...and a nice destination for their players.
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(11-16-2014 06:01 PM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  I feel like tech would bring more people to Fort Worth than Rice.

Without a doubt! LA Tech would bring at least twice as many fans to a bowl game in Ft Worth as Rice would.

Ft Worth, Dallas, or Shreveport will be a huge LA Tech crowd.
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(11-16-2014 07:53 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  
(11-16-2014 06:01 PM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  I feel like tech would bring more people to Fort Worth than Rice.

Without a doubt! LA Tech would bring at least twice as many fans to a bowl game in Ft Worth as Rice would.

Ft Worth, Dallas, or Shreveport will be a huge LA Tech crowd.

That's why I think it would be a shame to stick us off somewhere far off. All that being said I will be grateful to just go to a bowl.
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...redictions

From Jerry Palm:

Marshall - Peach Bowl vs. Georgia
Louisiana Tech - Dallas Bowl vs. Rutgers
Middle Tenn. - Bahamas Bowl vs. Western Michigan
UAB - Boca Raton Bowl vs. Central Michigan
UTEP - Hawaii Bowl vs. Nevada
Rice - New Mexico Bowl vs. Utah State

No WKU

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/2...ns/2206678

From Tampa Bay Times:

Marshall - Peach Bowl vs. Mississippi State
Louisiana Tech - Dallas Bowl vs. Penn State
Middle Tenn. - Bahamas Bowl vs. Toledo
WKU - Boca Raton Bowl vs. Central Michigan
UTEP - New Mexico Bowl vs. Utah State
Rice - Hawaii Bowl vs. Nevada

No UAB
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(11-16-2014 11:38 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...redictions

From Jerry Palm:

Marshall - Peach Bowl vs. Georgia
Louisiana Tech - Dallas Bowl vs. Rutgers
Middle Tenn. - Bahamas Bowl vs. Western Michigan
UAB - Boca Raton Bowl vs. Central Michigan
UTEP - Hawaii Bowl vs. Nevada
Rice - New Mexico Bowl vs. Utah State

No WKU

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/2...ns/2206678

From Tampa Bay Times:

Marshall - Peach Bowl vs. Mississippi State
Louisiana Tech - Dallas Bowl vs. Penn State
Middle Tenn. - Bahamas Bowl vs. Toledo
WKU - Boca Raton Bowl vs. Central Michigan
UTEP - New Mexico Bowl vs. Utah State
Rice - Hawaii Bowl vs. Nevada

No UAB

i like Jerry Palm's except put UTEP in the New Mexico Bowl & Rice in Hawaii
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