I wonder what your typical leech democrat thinks about being called stupid by their own party? This president said he was going to be transparent purposely mislead the voters into a dog poo program that sent healthy middle class health premiums soaring to cover those not paying or sick. He knew that you couldn't keep your doctor. He knew the premiums would soar even though he said it would drop $2,500. The guy is a blatant fraud and goes down equal with Jimmy Carter as the worst president ever.

Go ahead...nuthug some Obama even though he thinks your stupid and you can't understand when you got scammed.

BREAKING NEWS!!! Politicians use words favorable to their bill to get it passed (esp when it's a tax!)

Truly shocking...lol

(11-15-2014 11:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  BREAKING NEWS!!! Politicians use words favorable to their bill to get it passed (esp when it's a tax!)

Truly shocking...lol

It is pretty shocking because this was a program that is a massive change to a whole system that gives the gov't even more control. He basically had to lie to get even his "stupid" base onboard as they refer to their democratic base.

So we know that Obama is a liar and a fraud. He knew that the program would cause people to lose insurance, lose their doctor, get soaring premiums for the young and healthy, and to work that dirty secret that sends hundreds of millions to the insurance companies to cover any losses that they might incur.

(11-15-2014 11:27 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  BREAKING NEWS!!! Politicians use words favorable to their bill to get it passed (esp when it's a tax!)

Truly shocking...lol

It is pretty shocking because this was a program that is a massive change to a whole system that gives the gov't even more control. He basically had to lie to get even his "stupid" base onboard as they refer to their democratic base.

So we know that Obama is a liar and a fraud. He knew that the program would cause people to lose insurance, lose their doctor, get soaring premiums for the young and healthy, and to work that dirty secret that sends hundreds of millions to the insurance companies to cover any losses that they might incur.

So now Obama wrote it? lol, that's quite the leap...

Get mad if you like, it's a non-story to me.

(11-15-2014 11:35 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:27 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  BREAKING NEWS!!! Politicians use words favorable to their bill to get it passed (esp when it's a tax!)

Truly shocking...lol

It is pretty shocking because this was a program that is a massive change to a whole system that gives the gov't even more control. He basically had to lie to get even his "stupid" base onboard as they refer to their democratic base.

So we know that Obama is a liar and a fraud. He knew that the program would cause people to lose insurance, lose their doctor, get soaring premiums for the young and healthy, and to work that dirty secret that sends hundreds of millions to the insurance companies to cover any losses that they might incur.

So now Obama wrote it? lol, that's quite the leap...

Get mad if you like, it's a non-story to me.

I'm not mad, but it might be a non story to you but it goes at the mindset of this regime. Obama will shove something down your throat and you better like it. Americans and directly the democratic base to him his too "stupid" to understand. He is the guy that thinks that the private economy "Didn't build that". They owe the government for everything. Hard to even relate to that mindset.

We have a really dirty government these days. One that will flat out lie to you. One that acts like a pansy on the foreign stage. One that will audit you if you don't agree. One who wants to increase government dependance.

(11-15-2014 11:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:35 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:27 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  BREAKING NEWS!!! Politicians use words favorable to their bill to get it passed (esp when it's a tax!)

Truly shocking...lol

It is pretty shocking because this was a program that is a massive change to a whole system that gives the gov't even more control. He basically had to lie to get even his "stupid" base onboard as they refer to their democratic base.

So we know that Obama is a liar and a fraud. He knew that the program would cause people to lose insurance, lose their doctor, get soaring premiums for the young and healthy, and to work that dirty secret that sends hundreds of millions to the insurance companies to cover any losses that they might incur.

So now Obama wrote it? lol, that's quite the leap...

Get mad if you like, it's a non-story to me.

I'm not mad, but it might be a non story to you but it goes at the mindset of this regime. Obama will shove something down your throat and you better like it. Americans and directly the democratic base to him his too "stupid" to understand. He is the guy that thinks that the private economy "Didn't build that". They owe the government for everything. Hard to even relate to that mindset.

We have a really dirty government these days. One that will flat out lie to you. One that acts like a pansy on the foreign stage. One that will audit you if you don't agree. One who wants to increase government dependance.

and by that you mean: passed the house, passed the senate, signed into law by the president...right?

(11-15-2014 11:35 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:27 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  BREAKING NEWS!!! Politicians use words favorable to their bill to get it passed (esp when it's a tax!)
Truly shocking...lol

It is pretty shocking because this was a program that is a massive change to a whole system that gives the gov't even more control. He basically had to lie to get even his "stupid" base onboard as they refer to their democratic base.
So we know that Obama is a liar and a fraud. He knew that the program would cause people to lose insurance, lose their doctor, get soaring premiums for the young and healthy, and to work that dirty secret that sends hundreds of millions to the insurance companies to cover any losses that they might incur.

So now Obama wrote it? lol, that's quite the leap...

What difference does it make?
He pushed it, he signed it, his name has been attached to it, he owns it.

(11-15-2014 11:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:35 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:27 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  BREAKING NEWS!!! Politicians use words favorable to their bill to get it passed (esp when it's a tax!)

Truly shocking...lol

It is pretty shocking because this was a program that is a massive change to a whole system that gives the gov't even more control. He basically had to lie to get even his "stupid" base onboard as they refer to their democratic base.

So we know that Obama is a liar and a fraud. He knew that the program would cause people to lose insurance, lose their doctor, get soaring premiums for the young and healthy, and to work that dirty secret that sends hundreds of millions to the insurance companies to cover any losses that they might incur.

So now Obama wrote it? lol, that's quite the leap...

Get mad if you like, it's a non-story to me.

I'm not mad, but it might be a non story to you but it goes at the mindset of this regime. Obama will shove something down your throat and you better like it. Americans and directly the democratic base to him his too "stupid" to understand. He is the guy that thinks that the private economy "Didn't build that". They owe the government for everything. Hard to even relate to that mindset.

We have a really dirty government these days. One that will flat out lie to you. One that acts like a pansy on the foreign stage. One that will audit you if you don't agree. One who wants to increase government dependance.

and by that you mean: passed the house, passed the senate, signed into law by the president...right?

Do you feel the same way when something is passed by a Republican controlled House and a Republican controlled Senate and signed by a Republican President? Oh yes and passing both houses of Congress with only Republican votes?

(11-15-2014 11:58 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:35 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 11:27 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  It is pretty shocking because this was a program that is a massive change to a whole system that gives the gov't even more control. He basically had to lie to get even his "stupid" base onboard as they refer to their democratic base.

So we know that Obama is a liar and a fraud. He knew that the program would cause people to lose insurance, lose their doctor, get soaring premiums for the young and healthy, and to work that dirty secret that sends hundreds of millions to the insurance companies to cover any losses that they might incur.

So now Obama wrote it? lol, that's quite the leap...

Get mad if you like, it's a non-story to me.

I'm not mad, but it might be a non story to you but it goes at the mindset of this regime. Obama will shove something down your throat and you better like it. Americans and directly the democratic base to him his too "stupid" to understand. He is the guy that thinks that the private economy "Didn't build that". They owe the government for everything. Hard to even relate to that mindset.

We have a really dirty government these days. One that will flat out lie to you. One that acts like a pansy on the foreign stage. One that will audit you if you don't agree. One who wants to increase government dependance.

and by that you mean: passed the house, passed the senate, signed into law by the president...right?

Do you feel the same way when something is passed by a Republican controlled House and a Republican controlled Senate and signed by a Republican President? Oh yes and passing both houses of Congress with only Republican votes?

Yes, I like it when the government actually works.

Put some damn bills on Obama's desk that he can either sign or veto...let govt actually function, and stop gumming up the works with obstructionism and govt shutdowns.

(11-15-2014 12:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Yes, I like it when the government actually works.
Put some damn bills on Obama's desk that he can either sign or veto...let govt actually function, and stop gumming up the works with obstructionism and govt shutdowns.

Why?

If they're bad bills, why pass them?

Is passing bad bills a sign that government is working?

And is it more or less obstructionism for Harry Reid to prevent bills that the republican-controlled house passed from coming to the senate floor, than it is for John Boehner and the republicans not to bring up bills passed by the senate in the house?

(11-15-2014 12:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 12:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Yes, I like it when the government actually works.
Put some damn bills on Obama's desk that he can either sign or veto...let govt actually function, and stop gumming up the works with obstructionism and govt shutdowns.

Why? Because govt can't work if it's not allowed to work

If they're bad bills, why pass them? When did you get the power to decide for everyone what's 'good' or 'bad'

Is passing bad bills a sign that government is working? answer the question above.

And is it more or less 'more or less' lol obstructionism for Harry Reid to prevent bills that the republican-controlled house passed from coming to the senate floor, than it is for John Boehner and the republicans not to bring up bills passed by the senate in the house?

(11-15-2014 12:25 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 12:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 12:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Yes, I like it when the government actually works.
Put some damn bills on Obama's desk that he can either sign or veto...let govt actually function, and stop gumming up the works with obstructionism and govt shutdowns.

Why? Because govt can't work if it's not allowed to work You could have stopped at "gov't can't work" and been fine.

If they're bad bills, why pass them? When did you get the power to decide for everyone what's 'good' or 'bad' Where did I say that I had that power? But why should someone who thinks it's a bad bill be expected to pass it just so government could "work"?

Is passing bad bills a sign that government is working? answer the question above. I answered it, now you answer mine.

And is it more or less 'more or less' lol obstructionism for Harry Reid to prevent bills that the republican-controlled house passed from coming to the senate floor, than it is for John Boehner and the republicans not to bring up bills passed by the senate in the house? And while you're answering questions, answer this one too. Either they're both obstruction or neither one is. Reid is obstructing or Boehner isn't. Which is it? My answer, they're both obstructing, and thank God for that, because my opinion is that they're both obstructing bad bills. Gridlock is better than going where either side wants to lead us.

Pretty obvious that you are ducking because you know the answers but don't want to admit them.

(11-15-2014 12:33 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 12:25 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 12:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 12:03 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Yes, I like it when the government actually works.
Put some damn bills on Obama's desk that he can either sign or veto...let govt actually function, and stop gumming up the works with obstructionism and govt shutdowns.

Why? Because govt can't work if it's not allowed to work You could have stopped at "gov't can't work" and been fine.

If they're bad bills, why pass them? When did you get the power to decide for everyone what's 'good' or 'bad' Where did I say that I had that power? But why should someone who thinks it's a bad bill be expected to pass it just so government could "work"?

Is passing bad bills a sign that government is working? answer the question above. I answered it, now you answer mine.

And is it more or less 'more or less' lol obstructionism for Harry Reid to prevent bills that the republican-controlled house passed from coming to the senate floor, than it is for John Boehner and the republicans not to bring up bills passed by the senate in the house? And while you're answering questions, answer this one too.

Pretty obvious that you are ducking because you know the answers but don't want to admit them.

lol, because 'good' law vs 'bad' law is subjective...what you might consider a 'bad' law could be viewed as a 'good' law by everyone else.

laws/bills must be passed for govt to work...not 'good' laws, and not 'bad' laws...

(11-15-2014 12:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  laws/bills must be passed for govt to work...not 'good' laws, and not 'bad' laws...

Why?

(11-15-2014 12:40 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 12:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  laws/bills must be passed for govt to work...not 'good' laws, and not 'bad' laws...

Why?

Watch and learn...

Obamacare Architect Gruber Paid Over $2 Million For Consultation



Advising how best to fool stupid Americans doesn’t come cheap.

Quote: WASHINGTON — For ObamaCare “architect” Jonathan Gruber, the health law he helped design has been the gift that keeps on giving.

Gruber has come under blistering criticism since videos resurfaced of him saying the law passed due to the “stupidity” of Americans who didn’t understand its complexity.

Now, a series of government contracts totaling more than $2 million for consulting services provided by the Harvard-trained economics professor are coming under scrutiny.

http://nypost.com/2014/11/15/obamacare-a...sultation/

Gruber (rhymes with goober) is just another in a long line of Democrats who are at heart are nothing more than arrogant pr!cks.

Does anyone else flash back to the McGrubber skit from SNL?

Also, Memphis you might want to re read how the ACA actually got passed. It didn't have Republican votes. Instead it was some arcane, legal but arcane, Procedure that allowed the Bill that the President signed to pass. It was a crap sandwich when written and is even more so now.

Obama nut huggers are now claiming it was a parity. Lol...they are thinking Americans are really stupid now.