http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/...investing/

It's absolutely mindboggling and just goes to show you the power the right yields in the media or the mass message. I know we all like to joke that the media is in bed with D's but somehow someway people think this President is the definition of misery and despair. The facts don't fit the narrative obviously.

If we had THE EXACT same policies and times and this was under a President with an R this whole board would be 180.

(11-14-2014 11:11 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It's absolutely mindboggling and just goes to show you the power the right yields in the media or the mass message. I know we all like to joke that the media is in bed with D's but somehow someway people think this President is the definition of misery and despair. The facts don't fit the narrative obviously.

If we had THE EXACT same policies and times and this was under a President with an R this whole board would be 180.

lol

What else explains it? Look at the doom and gloomers. They are the ones that are heard.

If the "charts" showing how well things were going matched "reality", Obama and the liberals would not have had their asses handed to them by the voters a few days ago.

(11-14-2014 11:26 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  What else explains it?

You don't like the answer. Why do you keep asking the question?

Yea, in the election we just had the American people spoke on how great a job Chicago Jesus has done with the economy. Keep making these posts, they really do provide some good humor. By the way, why don't you compare Reagan's deficit to Obama's. Please do that. People are aware of the deficit even though libs seem to have dismissed it.

Uhm.. No. Again, the author is using partial facts.

The number of part-time jobs have increased yes, the number of full-time jobs have not. (The BLS from what I remember does not differentiate between the two). So how many of those jobs are held by the same individual working multiple jobs? According to the BLS, that's two jobs even though it's only the same person.

I believe the Dept of Labor is the one that uses the u-number differntiations, not the BLS.

Reagan had 27 months of 8.0+ unemployment (late 81-early 83), Obama had 41. (late 09-mid/late 12).

Is it good that we just hit 5.8 on the U3 numbers? Yes... congratulations it only took 6 years!

The U6 was not officially tracked until 1994 despite the claim it was used as far back as the 1900's, they used a mathematical function to extrapolate what they believe are the right numbers.

Labor Participation Rate: The article completely blows this, claiming people between 55-70 can now retire and participate in their hobbies. People are retiring later and later.. yet. it's NOT happening. So that argument gets thrown out the window (note the chart below shows ALL groups increasing since 1995).



I mean by the argument that the author claimed to use, George Bush was a BETTER economic president than Obama, as he had NO unemployment periods over 8%. And had one only one year of U6 numbers while Obama hasn't had a u6 under 10% since 2008.

But i don't see anyone defending Bush's job performance tenure.. (And hell, i give Clinton credit for helping to maintain a sub-6.0 unemployment rate.)

(11-14-2014 11:07 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/...investing/

Quit teasing the monkeys.

(11-14-2014 11:26 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  What else explains it? Look at the doom and gloomers. They are the ones that are heard.

Our central bank.

(11-14-2014 11:07 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/...investing/

Here you go. This should be the only response needed about how great Obama's economy is. Enjoy.

Yes,

For people who like to deal with absolutes and are confused when you have to deal with more than one variable. A one picture graph is ideal.

Nice find ERC. You're hitting your wheelhouse.

(11-14-2014 12:56 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Yes,

For people who like to deal with absolutes and are confused when you have to deal with more than one variable. A one picture graph is ideal.

Nice find ERC. You're hitting your wheelhouse.

Confused? Nice try. Was the midterm election confusing to you? As for that graph, when you don't have a reply to deny it's meaning, attack the messenger. I got it.

You're the one who said a picture is the only response needed. I agree. Simpletons need "ONE" picture anything more than that. My head hurty!

Too much think hard.

(11-14-2014 01:09 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You're the one who said a picture is the only response needed. I agree. Simpletons need "ONE" picture anything more than that. My head hurty!

A picture is worth a thousand words.

ERC.

Are you a Patriots fan btw? Were you their millionth follower?

(11-14-2014 12:56 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Yes,

For people who like to deal with absolutes and are confused when you have to deal with more than one variable. A one picture graph is ideal.

Nice find ERC. You're hitting your wheelhouse.

So why not address what Da Saint had to say? Do you recognize the difference/distinction between full time jobs and part time? Does the BLS?

Do you recognize the difference/distinction between the fake asss U3 numbers that have been "tweaked" and the actual U6 numbers?

Do you know how someone is classified as "unemployed' and when they are no longer even counted? As if they simply don't exist any more?

Spin, spin, spin by whoever this "author" is, but the proof is in millions upon millions of homes. Oh, that and that absolute repudiation, asskicking, shellacking zerO and his blocking dummies in the Senate took 10 or so days ago.

Please, please, please keep that nuclear option hack as your senate leader and the scarecrow without a brain as house leader. Maybe the good guys pick up another half dozen Senate seats and solid dozen House seats next time around.

Hopey-Changey!!!

(11-14-2014 11:07 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/...investing/

Thanks, Bush.

Again, until I start seeing an abundance of "Made in America" in retail stores, please STFU on jobs being created.