Utep?

The Big XII isn't inviting Colorado State.

Maybe AF goes AAC to be with Navy and the mwc stays at 10..

woah woah, slow down there, its just a rumor! one of many that will appear once the off season hits! :)

These guys

Boise
Fresno
Sdsu
Nevada
Unlv
Sjsu
Hawail
Wyoming
Utahst
Newmexico.... 10 teams 9 conf gms, everyone plays one another, that I like!

(11-13-2014 11:25 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  The Big XII isn't inviting Colorado State.

^^^This.

But just to answer the hypothetical question, the favorite would have to be UTEP.

(11-13-2014 11:17 PM)BLEEDBLUE81 Wrote:  Utep?

You mean when Fresno State/SDSU are gone to the B12? I can't post for SDSU but I think they will get strong consideration too. Interesting that the other thread did not mention these two.

Why Fresno State?
P5 like facilities on campus:
41,000 plus stadium
15,500 plus bball arena
6,500 plus baseball stadium
2,500 plus softball stadium
20,000 plus students
Texas/Florida/California top football recruiting states
Lots of tv sets/Fresno area has population of some of the B12 states
Carries central California
Only P5 conference in CA is PAC12, room for tv competition from another P5, like the B12
Fresno sits right in the middle of the major agricultural production region in the world, plus major oil production. Resources are available.

(11-13-2014 11:25 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  The Big XII isn't inviting Colorado State.

this,

Doesn't the horse go in front of the cart?

(11-13-2014 11:17 PM)BLEEDBLUE81 Wrote:  Utep?

I would say at a minimum rescue UTEP from CUSA. Maybe UTSA but I don't think they would make the move as a stand alone Texas school.

Another idea is push the MWC up to 14 with UTEP, UTSA, UNT to give the MWC strong recruiting presence in Texas for UNM, AFA, WYO and Utah St. The Texas schools would be smarter to link their future to the MWC a conference you know is going to be around long term. CUSA could be subject to a lot of defections.

(11-14-2014 08:34 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(11-13-2014 11:17 PM)BLEEDBLUE81 Wrote:  Utep?

I would say at a minimum rescue UTEP from CUSA. Maybe UTSA but I don't think they would make the move as a stand alone Texas school.

Another idea is push the MWC up to 14 with UTEP, UTSA, UNT to give the MWC strong recruiting presence in Texas for UNM, AFA, WYO and Utah St. The Texas schools would be smarter to link their future to the MWC a conference you know is going to be around long term. CUSA could be subject to a lot of defections.

UTEP isn't leaving CUSA, they had a chance and decided to stay in CUSA. (but your idea of 14 is one that will be considered. It keeps the Texas Core together and putting BSU in the West division)
The easiest option is New Mexico St. While their football is bad, they bring a well rounded program in the other sports, especially basketball.
Other easiest option is Texas St.

But, I think the MW will hold at 11fb and 10 bb especailly if the CCG rules are changed. There may not be an need to add the 12th member if the MW can hold a CCG with 11.

They'll wait to see how the new benefit rules affect certain schools and if Hawaii still can hold on to football. Even then, being at 10/10 is still good.

The longer term option: Grand Canyon Univ follows through on going non-profit, starts up football and becomes a member of the MW. GCU fills the gaping hole in AZ and give the MW an in-road into the Phoenix market.

Get Utep and call it a day!

UTEP stayed in CUSA before wanting to stay with other schools in Texas. I don't think the MWC could convince them to move on their own. The idea of adding them with UTSA and UNT though surely would be worth looking into though. I'm not sure how you'd align the divisions though, somebody would need to be moved from the Mountain to the West division.

New Mexico doesn't want to be in the same conference as New Mexico St if not mistaken, so I'm not sure they could be added either. I really couldn't see Idaho getting much of a look at this time either.

If (and that's a big if) Colorado St were to join the Big 12, and no other MWC team went with them, I'm not sure they would be replaced with anyone very quickly. Texas St could be a possibility, but I'm not sure they'd be willing to do the TCU thing and be the only Texas school in a western conference. They'd probably be my first target if I was commissioner though.

(11-14-2014 11:01 AM)Phlipper33 Wrote:  UTEP stayed in CUSA before wanting to stay with other schools in Texas. I don't think the MWC could convince them to move on their own. The idea of adding them with UTSA and UNT though surely would be worth looking into though. I'm not sure how you'd align the divisions though, somebody would need to be moved from the Mountain to the West division. New Mexico doesn't want to be in the same conference as New Mexico St if not mistaken, so I'm not sure they could be added either. I really couldn't see Idaho getting much of a look at this time either.

If (and that's a big if) Colorado St were to join the Big 12, and no other MWC team went with them, I'm not sure they would be replaced with anyone very quickly. Texas St could be a possibility, but I'm not sure they'd be willing to do the TCU thing and be the only Texas school in a western conference. They'd probably be my first target if I was commissioner though.

To answer your question: Boise St would move to the West division.
Also, UNM was fighting for NMSU to be added rather than USU. So they do not mind being in the same conference.

What

(11-14-2014 11:05 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  To answer your question: Boise St would move to the West division.
Also, UNM was fighting for NMSU to be added rather than USU. So they do not mind being in the same conference.

Boise seemed like the logical choice to me as well. Moving any school from one division to the other pretty much always causes at least one school to get upset though.

I may have been thinking about UTEP in regards to NMSU, or perhaps UNM just changed their previous position, but I remember a school nearby that didn't want them elevated to the same conference. Or maybe I've got false memories or just took some random poster's hypothesis as fact at some point of time.

I'm currently at work pretending to be busy while my boss is about 10 feet away so I can't look up details right now

(11-14-2014 11:51 AM)Phlipper33 Wrote:  

(11-14-2014 11:05 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  To answer your question: Boise St would move to the West division.
Also, UNM was fighting for NMSU to be added rather than USU. So they do not mind being in the same conference.

Boise seemed like the logical choice to me as well. Moving any school from one division to the other pretty much always causes at least one school to get upset though.

I may have been thinking about UTEP in regards to NMSU, or perhaps UNM just changed their previous position, but I remember a school nearby that didn't want them elevated to the same conference. Or maybe I've got false memories or just took some random poster's hypothesis as fact at some point of time.

I'm currently at work pretending to be busy while my boss is about 10 feet away so I can't look up details right now

Boise actually prefers to be in the west with the natural rivalries built during the Big West/WAC day (if only Hawaii would go Indy).

The upheveal the past few years can cause quite a few change of hearts. UTEP/NMSU probably don't want to be together, but for survival they'll work with each other since they play each other anyway for all the sports every year.

I think UNM and NMSU will strive to be in the same conference just as Nev and UNLV has tried for so many years and finally came together.

(11-14-2014 11:06 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

What

I assume you are not a Monty Python fan...

(11-13-2014 11:41 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  These guys

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