A merger with DUI will Never happen, but moving medicine from Poky sure could and SHOULD

Dude, you are arguing to a bunch of message board posters. Nothing you say is going to get BSU into a power conference. Same goes with Cincinnati, UConn, BYU, or anybody else.

(11-13-2014 01:39 PM)BLEEDBLUE81 Wrote:  9 top 16 finishes in 12 yrs, that's impressive! 135 million in facility upgrades since 07', 2 BCS BOWL WINS, 10 CONF TITLES AND 8 BOWL WINS, 7-2 VS PAC12 last 9. Boisestate is a Bigtime program that belongs at the big boy table, the expression PLAYUP.... WE'VE PLAYED UP! 17 straight Bowl games.... We're not a flash in the pan!

"Big Time" isn't defined solely, or even mainly, by results. E.g., Notre Dame hasn't won a major bowl game since before most of its current players were born, but it is arguably the #1 program in the country, because what makes a program Big Time is fan support and media appeal.

Boisestate brings great ratings and cachet nationally and has amazing fan support so ther ya go

Boise to PAC?

(11-13-2014 08:08 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Its going to be at least 2030 before that happens.

Key words, in bold: at least.

I feel like this poster wasn't really carring about other peoples opinions, but more just wanted to represent. Just calm down. No one said it is impossible, just that BSU has some things to work on.

It will be interesting to see if and how the Texas situation ever resolves itself.

The more I've learned about Rice the more I think they could be a fit for the PAC if it absolutely had to expand. Otherwise, the choices are slim and none. But because all the PAC 12 teams want to play in California (and all the Cali teams want to play each other) it will be tough for the PAC to expand beyond 14.

(11-13-2014 01:44 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  People still see Boise State as a glorified CC. That stigma has to be shattered before anything else happens. Things have improved greatly for them over the last decade - but they still have to make bigger strides in order to break through.

TCU and Utah have a better academic perception than Boise State. That's why they went to the P5 while Boise State did not.

If they got rid of thar hairy high school blue turf, it would help them not to be viewed as a glorified CC

(11-13-2014 02:40 PM)mlb Wrote:  Dude, you are arguing to a bunch of message board posters. Nothing you say is going to get BSU into a power conference. Same goes with Cincinnati, UConn, BYU, or anybody else.

Well said

(11-13-2014 10:14 AM)BLEEDBLUE81 Wrote:  

(11-13-2014 10:12 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(11-13-2014 12:00 AM)BLEEDBLUE81 Wrote:  What are the chances?

None.

Coming from an Smu fan lol... funniest post of the week haha

What is being from SMU got to do with it? You asked us a question....I gave you my answer. So what is funny about that. lol.....haha yourself

(11-13-2014 10:20 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(11-13-2014 12:04 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  When the Big 12 ceases to exist, the AAC could morph into a 20 team conference that basically becomes the Cinderella provider for an expanded National Playoff.

So in that situation you could possibly look at the AAC as part of the "New Power 5". It wouldn't be equivalent to the 4 remaining Major conferences but if it had an auto berth into the expanded National Playoff then I think it would be able to claim being part of a "New Power 5".

Boise kind of shut that door on the last round of realignment and then sued the AAC so I don't think they'd get a second look in that instance. However, I'm sure we'd likely look at a few other schools from the Mwc.

Nah, I don't believe that it is that bad. Going for a much lesser brand over some petty stuff like that? The opportunity is too big and if it was to happen it would be final. You want the best you can possibly get. To compare this scenario that I brought forth with what the AAC was trying to do before during the last time they had discourse with BSU, well there is no comparison. Obviously the AAC would want them based upon the past. Business people understand that business trumps personal feelings. Whomever is still butthurt over BSU pulling back, they can get over it and be mature folks that are in charge.

In the business world, lawsuits aren't taken so personally as they are between citizens.

There isn't a single university president that would want boise in the Big 12. Not a one of them. Same for the majority of the fanbases.

Idaho would be a stretch academically to get in the PAC.

Boise would be a stretch athletically except football.

Idaho was once in a conference with PAC 12 schools
They chose to de-emphasize athletics and focus on academics.

Boise has went the other way placing more importance on athletics than probably any other university. I read the annual bond payments for athletic facilities is 18.5 million.


Now both schools have probably invested more in their weak areas than the perception. Neither has the resources to rise to the level of an average PAC 12 school in both. The approach Boise has taken has worked better interestingly enough.
Being in the population center of the state also helps . People think TCU,BYU,Utah,Cincinnati when they think of Boise . No one thinks Incarnate World = Boise. I did not even know that until I read it in this thread. Athletics matter more the lower the conference. Buffalo would have a better chance of getting a P5 invite one day.Especially if they share a future dome with the Bills.

(11-13-2014 07:46 PM)Groo Wrote:  There isn't a single university president that would want boise in the Big 12. Not a one of them. Same for the majority of the fanbases.

Why's that? Just curious.

(11-13-2014 08:50 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(11-13-2014 07:46 PM)Groo Wrote:  There isn't a single university president that would want boise in the Big 12. Not a one of them. Same for the majority of the fanbases.

Why's that? Just curious.

BSU's academics are substandard. Check out their academic rankings and 4 year graduation rates. Also, there is the slight matter of geography. Schlepping to WVU is barely tolerable as is. Imagine having to travel to Idaho the next week.

(11-13-2014 08:50 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(11-13-2014 07:46 PM)Groo Wrote:  There isn't a single university president that would want boise in the Big 12. Not a one of them. Same for the majority of the fanbases.

Why's that? Just curious.

Because Boise State remains the equivalent of a large community college when compared to Cal, Stanford, etc., etc. They have much lower admission standards and essentially fill up their athletic roster with kids that probably could not get into most P12 schools.

The degree to which Boise would be an academic or general admissions outlier in the P12 is twice the distance of any other P-5.

Consider the following schools that bring up the academic rear of the P-5:

Think Louisville and the ACC, Nebraska and the B10, Arizona State/Oregon State/Washington State in the PAC, Kentucky/MSU/Arkansas in the SEC, West Va/TT in the B12.

Someone has the be rear of each conference, just like, Stanford, Texas, Duke, Vandy, and Northwestern are the academic heads of their conferences.

Boise State in the P12, is as far askew as Harvard or Columbia in the ACC or B10.

Go to this website - the Boise State Admissions Calculator

http://admissions.boisestate.edu/index/indexcurrent/


If you have a high school 2.9 and a 950 English/math sat they say - congratulations. That's not good enough to get into the "club"

(11-13-2014 10:19 AM)BLEEDBLUE81 Wrote:  Personally if the p5 continue to snub us I'd like to see a best of g5 league put together to where were virtually guaranteed a NY6 Bowl each yr ( makes no sense for AAC and MWC) to duke it out each yr, consolidation takes place. WEST: BOISE, AF, FRES, SANDIEGOST, BYU, NEVADA, UNLV

EAST: MEMPHIS, UCF, HOUSTON, N.ILL, CINCY, NAVY AND ECU.

That's a salty league, teams with good fanbases, markets and recruiting grounds!

Where do we sign up?

I like the PAC to add UCONN. Flagship, academically sound, needed help in basketball, New England/NYC market.

Geography, schmeography...

(11-13-2014 10:31 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  I like the PAC to add UCONN. Flagship, academically sound, needed help in basketball, New England/NYC market.

Geography, schmeography...

do it.