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This system is worse than the BCS. 12 guys circle jerking over the SEC west and throw a nice reach around for TCU and Oregon and FSU. Teams move up for quality loses. A beauty contest between huggly ass women would be more fun to watch. I am boycotting watching any P5 games this year unless LSPOO is about to lose.
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Oh and I forgot, Marshalls statement win against Arkon is skull dragged by Buffalo.
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I'm sorry people, did really expect anything different? If you did, man you were dreaming of pink clouds, rainbows, and unicorns......weren't you? Don't lie now.
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They either need to expand to 16 teams or split the G5/P5, and perhaps do both.
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(11-11-2014 08:10 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(11-11-2014 08:05 PM)Cscollis Wrote:  The committee is a joke. Nothing but blowing smoke up the P5 ass.

It's all P5 homers except for the ex Air Force guy. Of course that's what they are doing. There's a reason they decided to go with this committee instead of just using the BCS standings to rank the top 4, because they can load the committee up with "their" guys and make the results look exactly how they want them to.

We have t always agreed on stuff my friend but this is one of those no doubt.

The best part is people hated the BCS. They polled people and it was usually in the high 90s percentage that hated it, yet now we have 13... Oh wait...12 people making a Top 25 and the sports station whom own the rights uses those rankings exclusively instead of any others. The best part? Those 12 people will NEVER have to reveal their rankings.
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If we go undefeated and don't get the access bowl all it says is that we were eliminated before the season ever started. The fact that they are willing to rank a 3 loss team that has 59 point defeat hung on them tells you all you need to know. I can honestly say that I truly believe that there is a not a team in the country that can beat Marshall, ECU, Boise or CSU 59-0. You have to have a team with a lot of quit in them to lose 59-0. No team with that much quit should be ranked in anything.
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The guy from Inside College Football on CBS Sports Network picked RIce as his upset of the week vs. Marshall...Marshall got some air time tonight but the first team mentioned that is ridiculous they were not ranked was Colorado St. and than someone mentioned Marshall being undefeated...
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I'm starting to believe the SEC West isn't all it's cracked up to be. LSU and Alabama struggled with slightly above average Big 12 and B1G teams on neutral sites. Miss State's best OOC is UAB and it's not even close. Ole Miss had Boise but nothing else. Auburn pulled out a win at K-State but it felt like K-State outplayed them.

Basically, all of them are getting credit for beating each other while simultaneously receiving benefit of the doubt for losing to each other. Good on them for putting TCU ahead of Alabama.
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I can agree with the above statement, but Auburn has got some talent. They flat out beat Tech on freak talent. LSU beat a good Wisconsin team. WVU is pretty good too. They beat a top 5 team.
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(11-11-2014 09:59 PM)Cscollis Wrote:  Oh and I forgot, Marshalls statement win against Arkon is skull dragged by Buffalo.

Ok...?
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I knew that the BCS was the best option for a G5 school. I told everyone I knew that a playoff wouldn't solve the access problem for the G5. The only person that listened and agreed with me was my hardcore Alabama Roll Tide friend.

It seemed like everyone wanted a playoff. Well to quote Princess and the Frog, you got what you wanted, but you lost what you had.
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(11-11-2014 07:53 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Committee has zero respect for the Herd.

Wow.
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The BCS was far better for G5 schools. They altered it to give more incentives to the SEC and P5 schools. We had effectively learned how to play the BCS game so they changed it and left us with a token access bowl slot that only allows us to play in half the Access Bowl slots. We will never play in the Rose, sugar, or Orange again. Our commissioners and school presidents let us down by allowing this to happen. They allowed the P5 bluff of bolting from the NCAA change everything. There is a major antitrust law suit here but no one is willing to risk the money.
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Marshall folks, even if the BCS was in place you guys would still be on the outside looking in. You all do remember the qualifications for a non power conference champ:

1. Top 12 finish in the Harris Poll
2. Top 16 finish only if ranked higher than automatic qualifying conference champ.

Right now, Marshall would not meet either criteria for a BCS Bowl. Yes it sucks you're not ranked in the Committee Poll but your chances are better with this committee than the BCS.
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In our undefeated 1999 season, before the guaranteed spot for a top 12 ranking, we finished 12th in the BCS and did not get selected. The rules later changed. We were short changed in the early BCS. We will be short changed by the first committee as their example statement.
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(11-11-2014 11:49 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Marshall folks, even if the BCS was in place you guys would still be on the outside looking in. You all do remember the qualifications for a non power conference champ:

1. Top 12 finish in the Harris Poll
2. Top 16 finish only if ranked higher than automatic qualifying conference champ.

Right now, Marshall would not meet either criteria for a BCS Bowl. Yes it sucks you're not ranked in the Committee Poll but your chances are better with this committee than the BCS.

Where would they be right now in the BCS rankings? I know they would be ahead the Big East champ.
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(11-12-2014 12:01 AM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  
(11-11-2014 11:49 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Marshall folks, even if the BCS was in place you guys would still be on the outside looking in. You all do remember the qualifications for a non power conference champ:

1. Top 12 finish in the Harris Poll
2. Top 16 finish only if ranked higher than automatic qualifying conference champ.

Right now, Marshall would not meet either criteria for a BCS Bowl. Yes it sucks you're not ranked in the Committee Poll but your chances are better with this committee than the BCS.

Where would they be right now in the BCS rankings? I know they would be ahead the Big East champ.

There would be no Big East and the AAC would not be considered an automatic qualifying conference. The lowest rank AQ qualifier right now would be Ohio St.
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(11-11-2014 11:49 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Marshall folks, even if the BCS was in place you guys would still be on the outside looking in. You all do remember the qualifications for a non power conference champ:

1. Top 12 finish in the Harris Poll
2. Top 16 finish only if ranked higher than automatic qualifying conference champ.

Right now, Marshall would not meet either criteria for a BCS Bowl. Yes it sucks you're not ranked in the Committee Poll but your chances are better with this committee than the BCS.

Correct. At least we know a G5 is guaranteed to play in a major New Years Day game every single year. Last year, no G5 played in a New Years Day game--so this is an improvement. I think the G5 will learn something from this year and beef up their schedules enough to prevent this type of shunning in the future. Also, if an unranked Marshall does win the G5 slot and beats the snot out of their opponent---it might also change the voting dynamics a bit. That would be two strong performances two years in a row by G5 teams that would not be in the BCS under the old rules. It would basically begin to undermine the bias of the committee regarding the inherent lack of playoff /top-25 worthiness of the future G5 candidates.
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(11-11-2014 11:23 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I knew that the BCS was the best option for a G5 school. I told everyone I knew that a playoff wouldn't solve the access problem for the G5. The only person that listened and agreed with me was my hardcore Alabama Roll Tide friend.

It seemed like everyone wanted a playoff. Well to quote Princess and the Frog, you got what you wanted, but you lost what you had.

We still do not have a playoff. Selection committees and rankings are whay need to go. A playoff is taking all 10 confernce champs then seeding them along with 6 at-large teams. That is a playoff. Having a committee full kf ADs and a politician is bogus. Maybe if this committee had people like Phil Steele on it there would ve credibility. Someone thay watcheand analyzes every game.

All this "playoff" we have now has done is futher protect the interest of thr upper tier if the P5. In thr BCS there would be 2 and maybe 3 G5 teams ranked right now.
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(11-12-2014 12:35 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(11-12-2014 12:01 AM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  
(11-11-2014 11:49 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Marshall folks, even if the BCS was in place you guys would still be on the outside looking in. You all do remember the qualifications for a non power conference champ:

1. Top 12 finish in the Harris Poll
2. Top 16 finish only if ranked higher than automatic qualifying conference champ.

Right now, Marshall would not meet either criteria for a BCS Bowl. Yes it sucks you're not ranked in the Committee Poll but your chances are better with this committee than the BCS.

Where would they be right now in the BCS rankings? I know they would be ahead the Big East champ.

There would be no Big East and the AAC would not be considered an automatic qualifying conference. The lowest rank AQ qualifier right now would be Ohio St.

That's a bit of revisionist history there. You can't discount some parts of the old BCS and keep the rest. They basically took our possible BCS spot and forced us to share the big East slot. The old BCS contract would have the Aac with with a guaranteed spot and nd the 4G would have a shot ashton another if we would could top the AAC.

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