Hugh Freeze's stubborn attitude to not give Mark Dodson the touches he deserves very well could have cost himself and the Ole Miss fan base a national title. A brief synopsis on the back story between the two goes back to before the season of Dodson's freshman year. Freeze wanted to red shirt Dodson. Dodson didn't want to red shirt (and never did) and he took to twitter as to how he had been lied to about how he was guaranteed immediate playing time if he signed with Ole Miss. Dodson removed the tweet quickly and has been a model athlete ever since, but its pretty obvious Freeze is still bitter (unjustly so seeing as he did lie his ass off to Dodson.) Dodson has been held back ever since, even though he has shown flashes of brilliance when given the opportunity. The lack of having a decent running game is what cost Ole Miss their 2 losses this season. Anyone who has ever seen Dodson play a few games of football will tell you immediately that he is a superior running back to Walton and Mathers. It's amazing how stupid and petty Hugh Freeze has been in this situation and it just may have cost himself and the entire Ole Miss fan base a national title. I look for Dodson to possibly transfer after this season and don't be surprised if the U of Memphis gets a serious look.

Freezus made an empty promise in order to sign a recruit????? No way.

OM is lacking a big bruising RB like Jarvis Cooper. Had one of the alums tell me last week that he is sick to death of watching scat backs.

(11-10-2014 12:23 PM)halo27legend Wrote:  Hugh Freeze's stubborn attitude to not give Mark Dodson the touches he deserves very well could have cost himself and the Ole Miss fan base a national title. A brief synopsis on the back story between the two goes back to before the season of Dodson's freshman year. Freeze wanted to red shirt Dodson. Dodson didn't want to red shirt (and never did) and he took to twitter as to how he had been lied to about how he was guaranteed immediate playing time if he signed with Ole Miss. Dodson removed the tweet quickly and has been a model athlete ever since, but its pretty obvious Freeze is still bitter (unjustly so seeing as he did lie his ass off to Dodson.) Dodson has been held back ever since, even though he has shown flashes of brilliance when given the opportunity. The lack of having a decent running game is what cost Ole Miss their 2 losses this season. Anyone who has ever seen Dodson play a few games of football will tell you immediately that he is a superior running back to Walton and Mathers. It's amazing how stupid and petty Hugh Freeze has been in this situation and it just may have cost himself and the entire Ole Miss fan base a national title. I look for Dodson to possibly transfer after this season and don't be surprised if the U of Memphis gets a serious look.

Give me a break...

It's no secret I'm an Ole Miss football fan. I watch every down, every Saturday - either in Oxford or on my couch.

I love Mark Dodson. I, like yourself, believe he should get more touches. However, Ole Miss has 4 RBs that are basically the same...Dodson and Wilkins are younger, so tie goes to seniority. (FWIW, prior to the Presbyterian game Dodson had the lowest ypc out of the 4 backs)

Regarding the redshirt, I'd assume it was a similar situation to that of Jordan Wilkins...Freeze told Wilkins when he decommitted from AUB that there was going to be competition in the RB room. Wilkins still signed, didn't outcompete the 2 older backs and was redshirted (against his will). BUT he did the smart thing, saved a year of eligibility and is in a good spot moving forward. Mark did not...

Regardless, that didn't cost Ole Miss a chance at the National Title. The inability to run the ball isn't on the backs...it's on the o-line. Truth be told, Ole Miss might have only 1 offensive lineman that would start on any other team in the SEC.

So, can I see Dodson transferring...yes. Makes a ton of sense. But a large part of your post is flawed and rooted in a hatred of Hugh Freeze (common to a lot of Memphis fans) that makes very little sense.

That is some detail about misppisiiii...blown national title...snicker.

NTR turned into a mispiiiii fan board? If a Memphis kid is being screwed by a misppiiii coach...something can likely be worked out. The spin of any small event costing misppiiii a national anything is a bit much.

(11-10-2014 07:25 PM)Mimi Wrote:  That is some detail about misppisiiii...blown national title...snicker.

NTR turned into a mispiiiii fan board? If a Memphis kid is being screwed by a misppiiii coach...something can likely be worked out. The spin of any small event costing misppiiii a national anything is a bit much.

Good grief....at some point your gonna have to come back to reality and face the fact that ole miss is a good team, and freeze is a good coach. The only snicker is your obsession with all things ole miss, and your personal quest to comment on every ole miss thread, and failed attempt to discount everything they do or might achieve.

I responded to a post.

Someone else here is obsessing over mispiiiii...demanding that we send more respect because they are having a rare good season, something I have dutifully acknowledged, as many of our self loathers seem to demand...on many occasions.

National title costing? Er....no.

Good for you misppiiii fans that they are having a nice year. Congratulations. When we do well...are they required in mispiiii to fellate us? Doubtful...and I am sure the backwoods insults simply grow.

When I be start starting threads about mspppiiii on non Memphis game days, you can break out the whiney obsession card. Meanwhile, I am a Memphis fan on a Memphis board poking a little fun. Did rivals shut down their circle jerk?

(11-10-2014 09:07 PM)Mimi Wrote:  I responded to a post.

Someone else here is obsessing over mispiiiii...demanding that we send more respect because they are having a rare good season, something I have dutifully acknowledged, as many of our self loathers seem to demand...on many occasions.

National title costing? Er....no.

Good for you misppiiii fans that they are having a nice year. Congratulations. When we do well...are they required in mispiiii to fellate us? Doubtful...and I am sure the backwoods insults simply grow.

When I be start starting threads about mspppiiii on non Memphis game days, you can break out the whiney obsession card. Meanwhile, I am a Memphis fan on a Memphis board poking a little fun. Did rivals shut down their circle jerk?

When I be start???? You need to check that grammar before you pull out the backwoods comments. First off, no, I don't know a single ole miss fan who obsesses about anything memphis, positive or negative. The fact you respond to every thread involving Freeze, or ole miss is a perfect example of jealousy, and little man syndrome. From asinine comments about Wallace's hair, to delusions about Treadwell celebrating too much, you really do have a problem.
Memphis is having a great year, just won a hard fought game at Temple, and has a chance to win the conference. One would think you would be more concerned with that, than obsessing over ole miss. And yes, anyone with half a brain can see if ole miss could run the ball consistently , they would probably be undefeated and have a shot at a Nc. I know that hard to accept but it's the truth.

Mark hasn't quite learned how to pick up the blitzes. That is keeping him off the field. I think they improve a lot on their OL next year. So it won't be as much as an issue.

(11-10-2014 09:43 PM)SL030676 Wrote:  First off, no, I don't know a single ole miss fan who obsesses about anything memphis, positive or negative.

I do. Got some friends who despise the U of M and everything about it. They mock: Tiger Lane compared to the Grove, being a commuter school, RR tracks running thru our "ugly" campus, hated Calipari and to this day still laugh about us getting stripped of a F4, our conference (although its not as bad as it was in CUSA) and I could go on and on.

They'd prob cause Mimi to go insane.

(11-10-2014 10:37 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 09:43 PM)SL030676 Wrote:  First off, no, I don't know a single ole miss fan who obsesses about anything memphis, positive or negative.

I do. Got some friends who despise the U of M and everything about it. They mock: Tiger Lane compared to the Grove, being a commuter school, RR tracks running thru our "ugly" campus, hated Calipari and to this day still laugh about us getting stripped of a F4, our conference (although its not as bad as it was in CUSA) and I could go on and on.

Yes, there are those. They're idiots (no offense to your friends)

I prefer the company of both fan bases that don't give a rat's *** about the other. No disrespect shown by either side, just indifference.

(11-10-2014 06:54 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 12:23 PM)halo27legend Wrote:  Hugh Freeze's stubborn attitude to not give Mark Dodson the touches he deserves very well could have cost himself and the Ole Miss fan base a national title. A brief synopsis on the back story between the two goes back to before the season of Dodson's freshman year. Freeze wanted to red shirt Dodson. Dodson didn't want to red shirt (and never did) and he took to twitter as to how he had been lied to about how he was guaranteed immediate playing time if he signed with Ole Miss. Dodson removed the tweet quickly and has been a model athlete ever since, but its pretty obvious Freeze is still bitter (unjustly so seeing as he did lie his ass off to Dodson.) Dodson has been held back ever since, even though he has shown flashes of brilliance when given the opportunity. The lack of having a decent running game is what cost Ole Miss their 2 losses this season. Anyone who has ever seen Dodson play a few games of football will tell you immediately that he is a superior running back to Walton and Mathers. It's amazing how stupid and petty Hugh Freeze has been in this situation and it just may have cost himself and the entire Ole Miss fan base a national title. I look for Dodson to possibly transfer after this season and don't be surprised if the U of Memphis gets a serious look.

Give me a break...

It's no secret I'm an Ole Miss football fan. I watch every down, every Saturday - either in Oxford or on my couch.

I love Mark Dodson. I, like yourself, believe he should get more touches. However, Ole Miss has 4 RBs that are basically the same...Dodson and Wilkins are younger, so tie goes to seniority. (FWIW, prior to the Presbyterian game Dodson had the lowest ypc out of the 4 backs)

Regarding the redshirt, I'd assume it was a similar situation to that of Jordan Wilkins...Freeze told Wilkins when he decommitted from AUB that there was going to be competition in the RB room. Wilkins still signed, didn't outcompete the 2 older backs and was redshirted (against his will). BUT he did the smart thing, saved a year of eligibility and is in a good spot moving forward. Mark did not...

Regardless, that didn't cost Ole Miss a chance at the National Title. The inability to run the ball isn't on the backs...it's on the o-line. Truth be told, Ole Miss might have only 1 offensive lineman that would start on any other team in the SEC.

So, can I see Dodson transferring...yes. Makes a ton of sense. But a large part of your post is flawed and rooted in a hatred of Hugh Freeze (common to a lot of Memphis fans) that makes very little sense.

Dodson should have taken the red shirt. He made a mistake. However, make no mistake about this, these 4 running backs are NOT the same. Mathers isn't on the same level as any of the other 3. Walton has a place and can be a productive player, but he isn't on the same level as either Dodson or Wilkins as an APB. Walton is more of a scat back. For what YPC is worth? Its not worth anything when considering the limited amount of touches. However, Dodson did have another 65 yard touchdown run called back against Alabama on a bogus holding call to go along with a 60 or 70 yard kick off return against Alabama as well. He has shown the sings of brillance. Freeze is simply holding him back.

(11-10-2014 06:54 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  It's no secret I'm an Ole Miss football fan. I watch every down, every Saturday - either in Oxford or on my couch.

How come you don't mention ole miss as who you root for? Seems secretive to me.

(11-11-2014 01:28 PM)Mick Light Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 06:54 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  It's no secret I'm an Ole Miss football fan. I watch every down, every Saturday - either in Oxford or on my couch.

How come you don't mention ole miss as who you root for? Seems secretive to me.

It's no secret, trust me. I've mentioned it plenty of times.

I'm a weird Ole Miss/Memphis hybrid fan,

Some people can't get their minds around that...that's fine, but it is what it is.

(11-11-2014 11:17 AM)halo27legend Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 06:54 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 12:23 PM)halo27legend Wrote:  Hugh Freeze's stubborn attitude to not give Mark Dodson the touches he deserves very well could have cost himself and the Ole Miss fan base a national title. A brief synopsis on the back story between the two goes back to before the season of Dodson's freshman year. Freeze wanted to red shirt Dodson. Dodson didn't want to red shirt (and never did) and he took to twitter as to how he had been lied to about how he was guaranteed immediate playing time if he signed with Ole Miss. Dodson removed the tweet quickly and has been a model athlete ever since, but its pretty obvious Freeze is still bitter (unjustly so seeing as he did lie his ass off to Dodson.) Dodson has been held back ever since, even though he has shown flashes of brilliance when given the opportunity. The lack of having a decent running game is what cost Ole Miss their 2 losses this season. Anyone who has ever seen Dodson play a few games of football will tell you immediately that he is a superior running back to Walton and Mathers. It's amazing how stupid and petty Hugh Freeze has been in this situation and it just may have cost himself and the entire Ole Miss fan base a national title. I look for Dodson to possibly transfer after this season and don't be surprised if the U of Memphis gets a serious look.

Give me a break...

It's no secret I'm an Ole Miss football fan. I watch every down, every Saturday - either in Oxford or on my couch.

I love Mark Dodson. I, like yourself, believe he should get more touches. However, Ole Miss has 4 RBs that are basically the same...Dodson and Wilkins are younger, so tie goes to seniority. (FWIW, prior to the Presbyterian game Dodson had the lowest ypc out of the 4 backs)

Regarding the redshirt, I'd assume it was a similar situation to that of Jordan Wilkins...Freeze told Wilkins when he decommitted from AUB that there was going to be competition in the RB room. Wilkins still signed, didn't outcompete the 2 older backs and was redshirted (against his will). BUT he did the smart thing, saved a year of eligibility and is in a good spot moving forward. Mark did not...

Regardless, that didn't cost Ole Miss a chance at the National Title. The inability to run the ball isn't on the backs...it's on the o-line. Truth be told, Ole Miss might have only 1 offensive lineman that would start on any other team in the SEC.

So, can I see Dodson transferring...yes. Makes a ton of sense. But a large part of your post is flawed and rooted in a hatred of Hugh Freeze (common to a lot of Memphis fans) that makes very little sense.

Dodson should have taken the red shirt. He made a mistake. However, make no mistake about this, these 4 running backs are NOT the same. Mathers isn't on the same level as any of the other 3. Walton has a place and can be a productive player, but he isn't on the same level as either Dodson or Wilkins as an APB. Walton is more of a scat back. For what YPC is worth? Its not worth anything when considering the limited amount of touches. However, Dodson did have another 65 yard touchdown run called back against Alabama on a bogus holding call to go along with a 60 or 70 yard kick off return against Alabama as well. He has shown the sings of brillance. Freeze is simply holding him back.

I'm not saying the 4 backs have the same running style, I'm saying talent wise, they're all about the same. None of them are game breakers...just solid SEC RBs. In fact, I don't think any of them would start for any other team in the SEC West. Heck, maybe not even the backup of 3-4 of those teams. (says more about the talent of those teams than the OM backs IMO)

Again, I really like Dodson and agree he needs more touches. But the Rebs can't run the ball with that o-line so there are going to be a small number of runs overall. Combine that with the fact Freeze has to split that limited number of runs via 4 equally talented backs and it's just a tough situation. Doesn't mean Freeze is screwing him over. It's not even his call...it's Derrick Nix's call (why Walton starts...Freeze liked Mathers)

Our friend above still melting down.

Florida State is good.
Oregon is good.
Alabama is good.
Auburn is good.
Many others are good.

We need not pay homage to them every time...your very specific fanboy recognitions about misppppiiii notwithstanding.

Once you resort to autocorrect I-pad typo smack, you have totally lost.

Memphis fan- swatting mispiiii trolls. It is what we do.

I saw some fanboy stuff above- but- last I checked...a solid 8-2 mispiiii team could have lost to Memphis, could have lost to Alabama (should have lost) and could have lost to Boise State. You cannot have it both ways young man. Your very close to 5-5 team of heroes is having a nice season for them. Recognition granted.

I don't know of ANY dedicated fans of teams that are within a 100 miles, battle for the same recruits, and play each other in multiple sports that don't at least care a little about the other team.

Mimi picks fights all the time.... BUT, you are on a Memphis board. Why would you expect anything less!!!

So....a few years back when Florida was winning national titles...Florida State fans on Florida State fan boards were obligated to constantly discuss how good Florida was? And they were winning national titles, not just pulling off an upset over Alabama.

Being aware of nearby schools is not the same thing as the idea that we must honor them on this forum...especially in light if the rather modest accomplishments.

I think you get it...the snipe about Mimi liking to fight...when all Mimi is really doing is meeting fighting words or assumed fanboy other school messages...in kind.

Fanboy can worship the Alabama upset...we need not participate, which does not mean we do not recognize a signature accomplishment for a perennial SEC bottom feeder when we see it.

Ole Miss lost their national title chance because they're in a ridiculously tough conference and they caught a bad break, literally. It's just the way it goes. Only one team wins and 4 teams get a crack at it. Odds are against you.

(11-11-2014 02:00 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Our friend above still melting down.

Florida State is good.
Oregon is good.
Alabama is good.
Auburn is good.
Many others are good.

We need not pay homage to them every time...your very specific fanboy recognitions about misppppiiii notwithstanding.

Once you resort to autocorrect I-pad typo smack, you have totally lost.

Memphis fan- swatting mispiiii trolls. It is what we do.

I saw some fanboy stuff above- but- last I checked...a solid 8-2 mispiiii team could have lost to Memphis, could have lost to Alabama (should have lost) and could have lost to Boise State. You cannot have it both ways young man. Your very close to 5-5 team of heroes is having a nice season for them. Recognition granted.

Haha!! case in point, you just can't help yourself but respond, and take swipes at ole miss. Bless your heart.....I can't decide if you are really this foolish, and believe the drivel you put on this board, or your just trying to get a rise out of people (I'm leaning towards the first).
As far as wins and losses, the woulda, coulda, shoulda analysis can be played with every team in the country every year. Heck, look at Arkansas this year. So close to wins over bama and a&m, but ultimately still losses. Auburn last year is another example. They probably should have lost to bama and Georgia, but they didn't and ended up playing for the Nc.
What I want is an end to the little man syndrome, and having upteen ole miss threads on a memphis board. Do you know how many Memphis threads are on ole miss boards? 0 other than game week. People like you perpetuate this little man attitude and live in a world of jealousy and resentment. So, so sad.
If you want an honest critique of ole miss, looks at Robs post, it's logical, yours aren't even close.