(11-10-2014 10:44 AM)ThunderDent Wrote:  

Quote:The Chick-Fil-A Peach Bowl is one of those games, and Stokan said those associated with his bowl would love to see Marshall and its fan base headed to the Georgia Dome.

"We know the Marshall people would follow the team," Stokan said. "It's their chance for Cinderella to dance and so we'd look forward to Marshall coming to Atlanta, if that's what the selection committee's decision was."

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http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/ma...chy-choice

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The Playoff committee makes the decision, but it seems the Peach Bowl at least would love to have us.

I hope Marshall wins out and gets the G5 Access slot, but let's be honest: The Peach would much rather NOT have you. They will take you if the system says they must, but there are probably 10 schools from the SEC alone they'd rather have than Marshall.

(11-10-2014 11:01 AM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:56 AM)Pir8inRichmond Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:52 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:47 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  I'm sure the Peach would rather have Marshall over Colorado State. No brainer for an eastern bowl.

Meanwhile, the Fiesta I'm sure is hoping for BSU or CSU.

disagree. im sure the Fiesta is rooting for Marshall to the Peach, so the Fiesta can be a P5 vs P5.

And I'm sure the Peach Bowl would also rather have a P5 vs. P5 matchup than Marshall getting their doors blown off. Still, one of the access bowls has to take a G5, so all they're really doing is stating their preference in that scenario.

You obviously know nothing about football or simply havent watched us play if you think we'd get our doors blown off. I totally understand your frustration as a Boise fan since you reached your ceiling the last 5-6 years and got passed for a P5 invitation. No reason to take your frustration out on us though just because we are getting the attention now instead of you.

(11-10-2014 01:53 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:46 AM)wleakr Wrote:  Marshall will be ranked tomorrow.

You keep saying this but did you actually watch any games?

Only 1-2 teams could drop out and Texas A&M will be the first team in.

I'm just going by what's most logical...putting Tx A&M (as a 3 loss team, in spite of their victory) in the top 25 would make for press that I can't see the committee wanting to deal with. The only 3 loss teams that should be in the top 25 right now are the ones on the way DOWN (like LSU). I can see some 3 loss teams being ranked in about 2 more weeks after the fallout from all the 1 and 2 loss teams playing each other.

That being said, to put a 3 loss team on the way UP over Marshall is bad press. I'll believe it when I see it. In spite of the difference in conference perception, it is all SUPPOSED to be Division 1-A (FBS). They can't hold Marshall unranked until the final poll if they stay undefeated without explaining their rationale (especially with them moving incrementally in the other polls).

I also see (as you pointed out) at least 2 teams being dropped and I believe Marshall fills one of the spots.

(11-10-2014 05:19 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:44 AM)ThunderDent Wrote:  

Quote:The Chick-Fil-A Peach Bowl is one of those games, and Stokan said those associated with his bowl would love to see Marshall and its fan base headed to the Georgia Dome.

"We know the Marshall people would follow the team," Stokan said. "It's their chance for Cinderella to dance and so we'd look forward to Marshall coming to Atlanta, if that's what the selection committee's decision was."

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http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/ma...chy-choice

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The Playoff committee makes the decision, but it seems the Peach Bowl at least would love to have us.

I hope Marshall wins out and gets the G5 Access slot, but let's be honest: The Peach would much rather NOT have you. They will take you if the system says they must, but there are probably 10 schools from the SEC alone they'd rather have than Marshall.

Bowls games would take 2-10 PSU and Nebraska teams if they could because their fans (large alumni base) travel well.

(11-10-2014 05:19 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:44 AM)ThunderDent Wrote:  

Quote:The Chick-Fil-A Peach Bowl is one of those games, and Stokan said those associated with his bowl would love to see Marshall and its fan base headed to the Georgia Dome.

"We know the Marshall people would follow the team," Stokan said. "It's their chance for Cinderella to dance and so we'd look forward to Marshall coming to Atlanta, if that's what the selection committee's decision was."

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http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/ma...chy-choice

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The Playoff committee makes the decision, but it seems the Peach Bowl at least would love to have us.

I hope Marshall wins out and gets the G5 Access slot, but let's be honest: The Peach would much rather NOT have you. They will take you if the system says they must, but there are probably 10 schools from the SEC alone they'd rather have than Marshall.

Of they would. They would rather take a big P5 over any G5. If they have to take one of us, common sense would dictate the Peach wants Marshall, and the Fiesta wants Boise. Much more of a geographical pull.

(11-10-2014 05:36 PM)WEARE Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 05:19 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:44 AM)ThunderDent Wrote:  

Quote:The Chick-Fil-A Peach Bowl is one of those games, and Stokan said those associated with his bowl would love to see Marshall and its fan base headed to the Georgia Dome.

"We know the Marshall people would follow the team," Stokan said. "It's their chance for Cinderella to dance and so we'd look forward to Marshall coming to Atlanta, if that's what the selection committee's decision was."

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http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/ma...chy-choice

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The Playoff committee makes the decision, but it seems the Peach Bowl at least would love to have us.

I hope Marshall wins out and gets the G5 Access slot, but let's be honest: The Peach would much rather NOT have you. They will take you if the system says they must, but there are probably 10 schools from the SEC alone they'd rather have than Marshall.

Of they would. They would rather take a big P5 over any G5. If they have to take one of us, common sense would dictate the Peach wants Marshall, and the Fiesta wants Boise. Much more of a geographical pull.

Absolutely.

(11-10-2014 11:01 AM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  Still, one of the access bowls has to take a G5, so all they're really doing is stating their preference in that scenario.

So you be sure to post a quote from a Fiesta Bowl rep when they say they would love to have a Boise or Colorado St because they know their fanbase will travel.

(11-10-2014 05:23 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 11:01 AM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:56 AM)Pir8inRichmond Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:52 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:47 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  I'm sure the Peach would rather have Marshall over Colorado State. No brainer for an eastern bowl.

Meanwhile, the Fiesta I'm sure is hoping for BSU or CSU.

disagree. im sure the Fiesta is rooting for Marshall to the Peach, so the Fiesta can be a P5 vs P5.

And I'm sure the Peach Bowl would also rather have a P5 vs. P5 matchup than Marshall getting their doors blown off. Still, one of the access bowls has to take a G5, so all they're really doing is stating their preference in that scenario.

You obviously know nothing about football or simply havent watched us play if you think we'd get our doors blown off. I totally understand your frustration as a Boise fan since you reached your ceiling the last 5-6 years and got passed for a P5 invitation. No reason to take your frustration out on us though just because we are getting the attention now instead of you.

The only attention Marshall is getting is negative attention for playing all the local high schools and Pop Warner teams. It must be embarrassing for you that a program that has supposedly "reached its ceiling" (LOL) is still currently considered more deserving of an access bowl than Marshall by many pundits and fans.

(11-10-2014 06:51 PM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 05:23 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 11:01 AM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:56 AM)Pir8inRichmond Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:52 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Meanwhile, the Fiesta I'm sure is hoping for BSU or CSU.

disagree. im sure the Fiesta is rooting for Marshall to the Peach, so the Fiesta can be a P5 vs P5.

And I'm sure the Peach Bowl would also rather have a P5 vs. P5 matchup than Marshall getting their doors blown off. Still, one of the access bowls has to take a G5, so all they're really doing is stating their preference in that scenario.

You obviously know nothing about football or simply havent watched us play if you think we'd get our doors blown off. I totally understand your frustration as a Boise fan since you reached your ceiling the last 5-6 years and got passed for a P5 invitation. No reason to take your frustration out on us though just because we are getting the attention now instead of you.

The only attention Marshall is getting is negative attention for playing all the local high schools and Pop Warner teams. It must be embarrassing for you that a program that has supposedly "reached its ceiling" (LOL) is still currently considered more deserving of an access bowl than Marshall by many pundits and fans.

Your bile is showing. Bitter, isn't it.

(11-10-2014 06:51 PM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  The only attention Marshall is getting is negative attention for playing all the local high schools and Pop Warner teams. It must be embarrassing for you that a program that has supposedly "reached its ceiling" (LOL) is still currently considered more deserving of an access bowl than Marshall by many pundits and fans.

(11-10-2014 07:10 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 06:51 PM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 05:23 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 11:01 AM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:56 AM)Pir8inRichmond Wrote:  disagree. im sure the Fiesta is rooting for Marshall to the Peach, so the Fiesta can be a P5 vs P5.

And I'm sure the Peach Bowl would also rather have a P5 vs. P5 matchup than Marshall getting their doors blown off. Still, one of the access bowls has to take a G5, so all they're really doing is stating their preference in that scenario.

You obviously know nothing about football or simply havent watched us play if you think we'd get our doors blown off. I totally understand your frustration as a Boise fan since you reached your ceiling the last 5-6 years and got passed for a P5 invitation. No reason to take your frustration out on us though just because we are getting the attention now instead of you.

The only attention Marshall is getting is negative attention for playing all the local high schools and Pop Warner teams. It must be embarrassing for you that a program that has supposedly "reached its ceiling" (LOL) is still currently considered more deserving of an access bowl than Marshall by many pundits and fans.

Your bile is showing. Bitter, isn't it.

The irony is he's a fan of a school that literally built its football resume on beating the dregs of FBS football in the WAC. The only occasional challenge Boise faced in the WAC was Fresno State and even then beat the Bulldogs for the most part. So all this "playing the local high schools and Pop Warner teams" is pure comedy when you had the Idahos, New Mexico States, San Jose States and Utah States of the world in your schedule.

(11-11-2014 02:19 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 07:10 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 06:51 PM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 05:23 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 11:01 AM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  And I'm sure the Peach Bowl would also rather have a P5 vs. P5 matchup than Marshall getting their doors blown off. Still, one of the access bowls has to take a G5, so all they're really doing is stating their preference in that scenario.

You obviously know nothing about football or simply havent watched us play if you think we'd get our doors blown off. I totally understand your frustration as a Boise fan since you reached your ceiling the last 5-6 years and got passed for a P5 invitation. No reason to take your frustration out on us though just because we are getting the attention now instead of you.

The only attention Marshall is getting is negative attention for playing all the local high schools and Pop Warner teams. It must be embarrassing for you that a program that has supposedly "reached its ceiling" (LOL) is still currently considered more deserving of an access bowl than Marshall by many pundits and fans.

Your bile is showing. Bitter, isn't it.

The irony is he's a fan of a school that literally built its football resume on beating the dregs of FBS football in the WAC. The only occasional challenge Boise faced in the WAC was Fresno State and even then beat the Bulldogs for the most part. So all this "playing the local high schools and Pop Warner teams" is pure comedy when you had the Idahos, New Mexico States, San Jose States and Utah States of the world in your schedule.

Right, let's take a look at some years BSU didn't make BCS bowls:

02
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Boise_...tball_team

03
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Boise_...tball_team

04
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Boise_...tball_team

08
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Boise_...m#Schedule

10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Boise_...m#Schedule

11
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Boise_...m#Schedule

Compare Marsha's schedule to these; even the Idahos, New Mexico States, San Jose States and Utah States of the world wern't as bad as 85% percent of Marsha's current schedule... Their best win is against a 5-4 Mid Tenn team!!!! Outrageous!!

Just look at this:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team...ering-herd

http://espn.go.com/college-football/conf...conference

I'm sure we'd all agree ^ is simply absurd... If you could name the mascot of 5 of those opponents without cheating, it'd be a miricle - not to mention ALL those opponents are having terrible years... LOLOL!!! Nevermind, you're a CUSA guy...

Well, I assure you, any fan outside that conference wouldn't be able to name 5 of those mascots without cheating, unless they were a recent CUSA > AAC transplant.

A Marshall perspective for the haters. Every other G5 team started from a much better position from a strength of schedule standpoint. Unlike Marshall, cancellation and realignment issues didn't heavily impact these schedules. All these teams had to do was play the games and win. If you could beat a P5, great. It would solidify your place, but even if you lost, you still had strength of schedule sown up by beating your conference and other G5 OOC opponents. You lost those games. Marshall is beating other G5 by a 30 point margin. We havent lost yet. Sure, you can whine, cry, and stamp your feet like a petulant child. It won't change the fact you lost to other G5, and the fault is with your team--not Marshall.

(11-10-2014 11:48 AM)ThunderDent Wrote:  Yep, if they don't rank, they don't have to backtrack.

Just rank the one G5 team in the final poll.

It's a crock honestly. im sure they don't deem it worth their time.

It's rediculous to have multiple G5 teams ranked in AP and coaches polls however for multiple weeks, and them come out with a complete P5 poll. And they'll bestow their gift of a #25 ranking on one team they have to in the final poll, mainly to let the P5 team they have to play have a ranked opponent in their bowl game.

If it goes differently color me surprised.

It would be nice if they grew a pair and made the hard choices in the bottom of the poll as they did in the top of it. Oh, and actually watch all of the game film of the teams being considered too. And (no disrespect to ECU here, because we play nobody) not just say they beat some ACC teams. They are P5 right. Good enough.

It's funny how when they talk about Ohio St. and the top 4 playoff they keep coming back to how bad VT loss is on their record. But in the ECU scenario, they were talking like they were Alabama.

Just watch all of the game film from all of the schools considered. truly give it a fair assesment and discuss it and vote on who gets it. That's all I ask for. It's not ever going to be fair until it's 8 team playoff anyway. At least for P5. Wouldn't be fair for G5 unless it was 16. Which will never happen.

Or maybe the committee is just emphasizing the strength of schedule they said they would and Marshall has yet to play anyone that's not a transitioning 1-AA team or looks like one. It's your own fault for not having a marquee win or two like ECU or even just some P5 wins like Colorado State. I frankly see no argument for Marshall to be in over Boise or CSU (if they win the MWC somehow).

(11-11-2014 09:20 AM)WEARE Wrote:  A Marshall perspective for the haters. Every other G5 team started from a much better position from a strength of schedule standpoint. Unlike Marshall, cancellation and realignment issues didn't heavily impact these schedules. All these teams had to do was play the games and win. If you could beat a P5, great. It would solidify your place, but even if you lost, you still had strength of schedule sown up by beating your conference and other G5 OOC opponents. You lost those games. Marshall is beating other G5 by a 30 point margin. We havent lost yet. Sure, you can whine, cry, and stamp your feet like a petulant child. It won't change the fact you lost to other G5, and the fault is with your team--not Marshall.

If Houston could get a UNLV to come play them last minute- when Louisville cancelled, Marshall could have gotten them instead of a FCS team.

You can cry all you want, but it does seem like this committee is not going to reward wussy scheduling.

Trust me guys. Our fan base hates the games we are playing.

We want to be playing some very winnable low to mid tier p5 teams (no doubt in my mind we could beat anybody in this category)...

The only MAC school our fans care to play honestly, is Ohio. That's it.

And we want to be playing an AAC schedule (ECU, UCF, etc) to challenge us and settle all the BS on the field. But guess what, you left us behind in the CUSABelt and we are stuck playing the schedule we are.

We as fans want to have a schedule like this and could have if we were in the AAC:
P5 (mid/high)
P5 (mid/low)
Ohio
G5
Then 8 AAC games concluding with our ECU rivalry every thanksgiving.

I still think there ought to be a best of the rest merger, and this season is proving why. Whether Marshall is included in that or not, I think there should be a 18-20 team league (under the American banner or whatever it becomes). That will take care (pretty much) of who gets the access bowl annually, and it will be decided on the field. And if the playoff ever expands to 8, the champ of that conference would have a shot at making it, if they won OOC well.

(11-11-2014 11:27 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 09:20 AM)WEARE Wrote:  A Marshall perspective for the haters. Every other G5 team started from a much better position from a strength of schedule standpoint. Unlike Marshall, cancellation and realignment issues didn't heavily impact these schedules. All these teams had to do was play the games and win. If you could beat a P5, great. It would solidify your place, but even if you lost, you still had strength of schedule sown up by beating your conference and other G5 OOC opponents. You lost those games. Marshall is beating other G5 by a 30 point margin. We havent lost yet. Sure, you can whine, cry, and stamp your feet like a petulant child. It won't change the fact you lost to other G5, and the fault is with your team--not Marshall.

If Houston could get a UNLV to come play them last minute- when Louisville cancelled, Marshall could have gotten them instead of a FCS team.

You can cry all you want, but it does seem like this committee is not going to reward wussy scheduling.

Again, we aren't crying. You have followed this topic from thread to thread making the same lame argument. As stated before, apply for the AD position. I doubt you will ever sniff it, but give it a go. We are playing our schedule. Unlike others, we are impressively winning against our schedule. You are crying because we aren't losing.