(11-10-2014 10:35 AM)lance99 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 09:33 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  No interest in NIU from what I hear. The only Mac schools that I've heard could be on the radar is Akron. Their location and facilities is what make them attractive. They also bring a good basketball product to replace UAB. Other schools with chatter are the obvious ones in Louisana and Texas State. Have heard nothing in relation to Georgia State or Southern.

Why would Akron leave the MAC for C-USA? That makes no sense. Even if they did, it would be Football-Only because Soccer(the real prize) would go independent and all other sports would go back to the Ohio Valley.

Even after all that, they would be a outliner in the conference and would demand another team close to them. That means that you would have to A)Beg Kent to come along, or B)Beg Youngstown State to move up.

EDIT: I take it that you have never been to the JAR for a Basketball game. That is a huge issue right now.

Akron is local to the conference tournaments in Cleveland.

The MAC has schools like Buffalo, Kent St, Ohio they would want to be associated with academically over Marshall, Western Ky, Middle Tennessee. MAC to CUSA migration doesn't make any sense.

IMO, the Cajuns or Arky St.

UMass would fit if they are looking for football only and keeping UAB for the other sports.

We'd say yes in less than 2 seconds.

(11-10-2014 10:08 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  I'll have to go back and find it, but the CUSA commish said at the time that TV dictated the adds to maintain the contract. Fox got more content while CUSA maintained total contract value. IF UAB drops, and I hope they don't, would CUSA ride it out into the next negotiations? Or, attempt to increase appeal by adding more content/markets? Could ASN be a player? They've done a good job thus far.

I think that reference might be to C-USA adding programs that television said were more valuable than the other programs willing to come. No question that Old Dominion and UT San Antonio were home run additions, but the other programs being named may not be.

(11-09-2014 10:54 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  If there is an opening I want another Alabama team , or a Georgia, or South Carolina team. Must have on campus stadium!!!!!

It would be absolutely foolish for you guys not to target Georgia Southern.

I said a few years ago that those guys would be a dominate force the year they got into FBS.

CUSA could add a high school program. They would be an upgrade over UAB.

Quote:Don't fool yourself. If NIU had an offer from CUSA, they would be on it in a heartbeat.

I disagree - lol. You're saying Sun Belt & D1AA teams were filing in there, but NIU with 4-straight 10+ wins and an Orange Bowl invitation is sitting outside CUSA saying "Please please please let me in??" :)

If the CUSA is what it is NOW, with no Marshall, Marshall wouldn't leave the MAC to go to CUSA. Too much a lateral move. Not worth all that. Joining the AAC though -- the AAC will have to want to expand after the teams coming in real soon here.

I think NIU is aiming for B12 down the line. They'd take an AAC if there was an opening.

CUSA -- not enough money or G5 strength at all to cover the cost of extended traveling, etc., IMO. Plus, the MAC West which NIU's in is tougher than one division of CUSA. Overall, they'd need more than "Hey, we'll let you come over here with Texas Southwest Midwest Christian State."

CUSA would pick up Texas State.

(11-10-2014 03:41 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  CUSA would pick up Texas State.

Another Texas school? I could see it but that would be an awful lot of the Lone Star state in one division.

(11-10-2014 02:47 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:Don't fool yourself. If NIU had an offer from CUSA, they would be on it in a heartbeat.

I disagree - lol.

Me too! I think NIU has their sights set higher than CUSA or the AAC.

I believe Ga Southern would be at the top of the list:

1) Our performance this year and historically shows we have potential to be a consistent G5 auto bid
contender
2) The state of Ga is loaded with talent and there is a hole in the CUSA map with no GA school
3) GaSt is a dumpster fire and too many other concerns
4) Nobody would block us. We are a pick that upsets no school. ULL - La Tech blocks; USA -
USM blocks; TX St - NT blocks
5) Serves as a geographic bridge to FIU/FAU

All of these factors lead the pick to Ga Southern.

We are perfectly happy in the SBC, and if we did receive an invite and accept, it would be tough to lose the App St rivalry and potential GaSt rivalry with a game the Atlanta alums can attend every other year.

If CUSA wants to keep UAB, they add UMass football only.
If they want to dump UAB, they vote them out of the conference and add UMass as a full member, JMU or a Sunbelt team.

(11-10-2014 01:02 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  IMO, the Cajuns or Arky St.

If UAB does drop football, a good argument could be made for Louisiana. Three straight 9-4 records, 3 straight bowl wins over SDSU, E. Carolina and Tulane, had over 45,000 fans at N. O. Bowl last year, headed for a 10 win season and another bowl game this year, attendance avg. 27,000 and growing, stadium capacity just increased to 37,000 under Phase 1 and to be increased to 50,000 in Phase 2 (building for future with private funds), currently building 80,000 sf athletic performcance center, already has an indoor practice facility, $115M in athletic facility improvements to be completed over 3 year period, #1 in country in baseball last year, 6th WCWS appearance, conference champs in tennis, baseball, softball, basketball, & football, easy travel down I 10 to USM, Rice, UTSA, natural rivarly for LA Tech, Rice, UTSA, USM and former conference mates UNT, MT, WKU, FIU and FAU, great and growing fan base, and best tailgating. Enrollment now up to almost 19,000. Also Lafayette is the fastest growing and wealthiest city in Louisiana. It is considered the capital of of Acadiana or French Louisiana with over 600,000 people within 30 miles and over 800,000 within 50 miles and doesn't include Lake Charles or Baton Rouge.

(11-10-2014 04:27 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 02:47 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:Don't fool yourself. If NIU had an offer from CUSA, they would be on it in a heartbeat.

I disagree - lol.

Me too! I think NIU has their sights set higher than CUSA or the AAC.

I think they do, but realistically I don't know how they get from here to there. At best they get donor funding to upgrade some facilities and if basketball continues to improve *maybe* the AAC looks at them eventually. And then it would take a small miracle to get from there to the Big 12. I agree they wouldn't bother going to CUSA as it would be much of the same but with way more travel.

Louisiana is the best all-sports program that fits the footprint, but I bet LaTech would block that move. stAte is a close second, but I don't know if they want to give up ruling the roost in the Sun Belt.

I would take South Alabama in a heart-beat if it came to it (would rather UAB keep football and tell the Bama BOT to f' off). South Alabama fits the footprint, cares about all sports (doesn't ignore the orange round ball like some other potential candidates) and has been pretty darn solid during/post transition.

(11-10-2014 10:35 AM)lance99 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 09:33 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  No interest in NIU from what I hear. The only Mac schools that I've heard could be on the radar is Akron. Their location and facilities is what make them attractive. They also bring a good basketball product to replace UAB. Other schools with chatter are the obvious ones in Louisana and Texas State. Have heard nothing in relation to Georgia State or Southern.

Why would Akron leave the MAC for C-USA? That makes no sense. Even if they did, it would be Football-Only because Soccer(the real prize) would go independent and all other sports would go back to the Ohio Valley.

Even after all that, they would be a outliner in the conference and would demand another team close to them. That means that you would have to A)Beg Kent to come along, or B)Beg Youngstown State to move up.

EDIT: I take it that you have never been to the JAR for a Basketball game. That is a huge issue right now.

Youngstown State would probably come up if asked but I don't think anybody wants that (especially the MAC). No way Kent State would leave for CUSA there is just not enough ties to any schools there and really no upgrade in their point of view to cut ties with a bunch of schools that fit them like a glove. In fact for Kent it would be far easier to allow Akron to leave and schedule that one team OOC rather than leave with Akron and try to schedules other MAC schools OOC (which Kent will want to do especially schools like Miami, Ohio, and BGSU). This isn't as much of an issue for Akron since they have much less history with the rest of the MAC than Kent State does.

I would be really surprised if Akron left the MAC for CUSA. It just does not seem to offer enough to make a tempting offer for them in my view. I also think it puts them at relative risk with little upside compared to just staying. For instance would the MAC take Akron back if they left and the MAC did not have a catastrophe that would force their hand? The MAC may just say no and considering that overall Akron is doing better after being in the MAC than before it should carefully consider any changes it makes.

(11-10-2014 05:36 PM)freshtop Wrote:  (would rather UAB keep football and tell the Bama BOT to f' off).

Stay tuned, you may get your wish.

(11-10-2014 04:30 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  I believe Ga Southern would be at the top of the list:

1) Our performance this year and historically shows we have potential to be a consistent G5 auto bid
contender
2) The state of Ga is loaded with talent and there is a hole in the CUSA map with no GA school
3) GaSt is a dumpster fire and too many other concerns
4) Nobody would block us. We are a pick that upsets no school. ULL - La Tech blocks; USA -
USM blocks; TX St - NT blocks
5) Serves as a geographic bridge to FIU/FAU

All of these factors lead the pick to Ga Southern.

We are perfectly happy in the SBC, and if we did receive an invite and accept, it would be tough to lose the App St rivalry and potential GaSt rivalry with a game the Atlanta alums can attend every other year.

This is hillarious!!!!

(11-10-2014 04:30 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  I believe Ga Southern would be at the top of the list:

1) Our performance this year and historically shows we have potential to be a consistent G5 auto bid
contender
2) The state of Ga is loaded with talent and there is a hole in the CUSA map with no GA school
3) GaSt is a dumpster fire and too many other concerns
4) Nobody would block us. We are a pick that upsets no school. ULL - La Tech blocks; USA -
USM blocks; TX St - NT blocks
5) Serves as a geographic bridge to FIU/FAU

All of these factors lead the pick to Ga Southern.

We are perfectly happy in the SBC, and if we did receive an invite and accept, it would be tough to lose the App St rivalry and potential GaSt rivalry with a game the Atlanta alums can attend every other year.

Rice would surely block GaSo for academic reasons.

They don't want a rural teachers college is CUSA. Get Rice out of the conference if you want in CUSA. Tulsa and Tulane would have blocked Ga So and most of the Sun Belt too.

(11-10-2014 06:34 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:35 AM)lance99 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 09:33 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  No interest in NIU from what I hear. The only Mac schools that I've heard could be on the radar is Akron. Their location and facilities is what make them attractive. They also bring a good basketball product to replace UAB. Other schools with chatter are the obvious ones in Louisana and Texas State. Have heard nothing in relation to Georgia State or Southern.

Why would Akron leave the MAC for C-USA? That makes no sense. Even if they did, it would be Football-Only because Soccer(the real prize) would go independent and all other sports would go back to the Ohio Valley.

Even after all that, they would be a outliner in the conference and would demand another team close to them. That means that you would have to A)Beg Kent to come along, or B)Beg Youngstown State to move up.

EDIT: I take it that you have never been to the JAR for a Basketball game. That is a huge issue right now.

Youngstown State would probably come up if asked but I don't think anybody wants that (especially the MAC). No way Kent State would leave for CUSA there is just not enough ties to any schools there and really no upgrade in their point of view to cut ties with a bunch of schools that fit them like a glove. In fact for Kent it would be far easier to allow Akron to leave and schedule that one team OOC rather than leave with Akron and try to schedules other MAC schools OOC (which Kent will want to do especially schools like Miami, Ohio, and BGSU). This isn't as much of an issue for Akron since they have much less history with the rest of the MAC than Kent State does.

I would be really surprised if Akron left the MAC for CUSA. It just does not seem to offer enough to make a tempting offer for them in my view. I also think it puts them at relative risk with little upside compared to just staying. For instance would the MAC take Akron back if they left and the MAC did not have a catastrophe that would force their hand? The MAC may just say no and considering that overall Akron is doing better after being in the MAC than before it should carefully consider any changes it makes.

With Tressel as President, Youngstown State would certainly move to FBS if they have a chance, but YSU is basically a four year JC. Their ACT scores are deplorable.

Only the Sun Belt would touch them, but for football only. The MAC has standards and would take Ill St, Ind St, or S Ill if it came to that.