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I'm not really sure what people expect of Mackin.

I imagine he's doing his damn job at the moment. Want him to take a stand? What exactly would that look like?

He'll have plenty of time for sit-ins when he's unemployed.

(11-07-2014 12:06 PM)blazed247 Wrote:  Where is our AD? giving Watts and PBJ a handy andy in Robert Bently's office

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Listen to yourselves people...

If we lose the game Saturday because of this distracting BS I think honor demands that each and every co-conspirator in this half-baked plot commit ritual suicide behind the fence on the 50 yard line at the start of the Marshall game.

It's the only way to beg forgiveness from the team (who should be the only ones doing the "talking" for us at this time).

(11-07-2014 12:54 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I'm not really sure what people expect of Mackin.

I imagine he's doing his damn job at the moment. Want him to take a stand? What exactly would that look like?

He'll have plenty of time for sit-ins when he's unemployed.

But it won't be as effective then.

(11-07-2014 11:48 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Everybody wanted Dr. G gone because she wouldn't fight. She is gone and we got Ray-Ray. Now you want Mackin gone because he won't fight. Who will that get us for an AD .... Finis the 5th ?

The difference is that Dr. G played the martyr and wasn't scared to be one once they pushed her to the edge (which is why she is now gone). We wouldn't even have a foot to stand on had Garrison not pushed through with the stadium proposal when she was asked not to. She decided to stop chasing a dangling carrot and put all of her cards out on the table. Had she not explicitly made the board REMOVE it from the agenda (rather than UAB pull it themselves), we wouldn't have some of the good will we have with the public eye now.

In my opinion, Garrison sacrificed herself at the end of Act II, to set us up for one hell of an Act III.

(11-07-2014 01:39 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 11:48 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Everybody wanted Dr. G gone because she wouldn't fight. She is gone and we got Ray-Ray. Now you want Mackin gone because he won't fight. Who will that get us for an AD .... Finis the 5th ?

The difference is that Dr. G played the martyr and wasn't scared to be one once they pushed her to the edge (which is why she is now gone). We wouldn't even had a foot to stand on had Garrison not pushed through with the stadium proposal when she was asked not to. She decided to stop chasing a dangling carrot and put all of her cards out on the table. Had she not explicitly made the board REMOVE it from the agenda (rather than UAB pull it themselves), we wouldn't have some of the good will we have with the public eye now.

In my opinion, Garrison sacrificed herself at the end of Act II, to set us up for one hell of an Act III.

Agreed

(11-07-2014 01:39 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 11:48 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Everybody wanted Dr. G gone because she wouldn't fight. She is gone and we got Ray-Ray. Now you want Mackin gone because he won't fight. Who will that get us for an AD .... Finis the 5th ?

The difference is that Dr. G played the martyr and wasn't scared to be one once they pushed her to the edge (which is why she is now gone). We wouldn't even had a foot to stand on had Garrison not pushed through with the stadium proposal when she was asked not to. She decided to stop chasing a dangling carrot and put all of her cards out on the table. Had she not explicitly made the board REMOVE it from the agenda (rather than UAB pull it themselves), we wouldn't have some of the good will we have with the public eye now.

In my opinion, Garrison sacrificed herself at the end of Act II, to set us up for one hell of an Act III.

That is spot on how I read it, expressed better than I could have.

(11-07-2014 09:18 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 09:14 AM)thebernreuter Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 09:11 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 09:11 AM)thebernreuter Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 09:08 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  You guys are really casual with other people's jobs.

Mackin is not making it seem like he needs this job all that badly.

huh? what are you talking about?

Did you read the whole thread?

His football program is in serious jeopardy, and it sure seems like he doesn't care. Caring about that would be part of his job description, so maybe his job isn't all that important to him.

He's the Director of Athletics, not the Director of Football. Whatever happens to the football program, they won't completely shut down the athletics department. Also, what does he gain by saying something publicly? What would happen if you stood up in front of TV cameras and contradicted your boss? You guys essentially want him to fall on his sword, as if it would do any good (it wouldn't) and sacrifice his job. The man has kids and I would assume mortgage and while he's a UAB alum, this is also his job that I'm sure he'd like to keep.

Gene Bartow would have stood up and spoken out.

And killing football is probably stage one of killing athletics all together.

(11-07-2014 12:58 PM)AnimeBlazer Wrote:  If we lose the game Saturday because of this distracting BS I think honor demands that each and every co-conspirator in this half-baked plot commit ritual suicide behind the fence on the 50 yard line at the start of the Marshall game.

If we lose this game because the players are distracted, it's on Watts for not being able to say we will for sure field a football team even next year, let alone in 2016. That is not on the fans.

I'm sick of hearing about people's families and jobs.

If Brian Mackin doesn't stand up when we need him the most, he's nothing more than a career politician in an election process we aren't a part of.

Mackin has a base salary of $300,000 a year, he shouldn't be worried about living paycheck to paycheck, especially if he's as good of a business-minded guy as everyone says he is.

Coach Hilyer sacrificed time with his family and money to become UAB's first football coach for FREE.

Our last three basketball coaches have made far more money than Gene Bartow ever did and he was tasked with creating our whole damn athletic department and going to NCAA Tournaments.

Jimmy Filler, Justin Craft, and others are sacrificing their time and money to try to stand up for a program that doesn't feed their families.

Brian Mackin's salary is on the line here. If it's all about the job and money, then fight for THAT at least. Without UAB Football, all of the other athletics programs will suffer, and if that happens do you think Mackin's next contract will include a salary increase or that it will even be renewed at all?

Now, more than ever, we need LEADERS. It's pretty damn sad that the only ones we have besides Coach Clark are on the outside looking in.

Brian Mackin is working his tail off, trying to find UAB a new conference!

I'm being serious. That's what I suspect he is doing.

(11-07-2014 01:39 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 11:48 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Everybody wanted Dr. G gone because she wouldn't fight. She is gone and we got Ray-Ray. Now you want Mackin gone because he won't fight. Who will that get us for an AD .... Finis the 5th ?

The difference is that Dr. G played the martyr and wasn't scared to be one once they pushed her to the edge (which is why she is now gone). We wouldn't even have a foot to stand on had Garrison not pushed through with the stadium proposal when she was asked not to. She decided to stop chasing a dangling carrot and put all of her cards out on the table. Had she not explicitly made the board REMOVE it from the agenda (rather than UAB pull it themselves), we wouldn't have some of the good will we have with the public eye now.

In my opinion, Garrison sacrificed herself at the end of Act II, to set us up for one hell of an Act III.

Very good portrayal. I wonder where she is now though? She could come forward with a lot of dirt.

Football is one of only two revenue producing sports at UAB. It represents 85 male scholarships so if it is terminated, how many other scholarships in other sports - male and female - will wind up being terminated as well? What will be left for the Athletic Department to run then? How many "One sport only" conferences are there around here?

(11-07-2014 02:42 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  Brian Mackin is working his tail off, trying to find UAB a new conference!

I'm being serious. That's what I suspect he is doing.

Why? I love Conference USA. We're a perfect fit for it in all sports. Any idea which conference, provided this is true of what you suspect? Sun Belt? MAC?

(11-07-2014 02:52 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 01:39 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 11:48 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Everybody wanted Dr. G gone because she wouldn't fight. She is gone and we got Ray-Ray. Now you want Mackin gone because he won't fight. Who will that get us for an AD .... Finis the 5th ?

The difference is that Dr. G played the martyr and wasn't scared to be one once they pushed her to the edge (which is why she is now gone). We wouldn't even have a foot to stand on had Garrison not pushed through with the stadium proposal when she was asked not to. She decided to stop chasing a dangling carrot and put all of her cards out on the table. Had she not explicitly made the board REMOVE it from the agenda (rather than UAB pull it themselves), we wouldn't have some of the good will we have with the public eye now.

In my opinion, Garrison sacrificed herself at the end of Act II, to set us up for one hell of an Act III.

Very good portrayal. I wonder where she is now though? She could come forward with a lot of dirt.

She won't... I have a feeling she entered into a contractual "vow of silence" with them.

(11-07-2014 03:08 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Football is one of only two revenue producing sports at UAB. It represents 85 male scholarships so if it is terminated, how many other scholarships in other sports - male and female - will wind up being terminated as well? What will be left for the Athletic Department to run then? How many "One sport only" conferences are there around here?

won't matter, if these bas***ds shut down the football program, I'm done. I don't like the idea of such a large institution not having any automony in athletics like this. Really makes me

(11-07-2014 02:52 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 01:39 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 11:48 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Everybody wanted Dr. G gone because she wouldn't fight. She is gone and we got Ray-Ray. Now you want Mackin gone because he won't fight. Who will that get us for an AD .... Finis the 5th ?

The difference is that Dr. G played the martyr and wasn't scared to be one once they pushed her to the edge (which is why she is now gone). We wouldn't even have a foot to stand on had Garrison not pushed through with the stadium proposal when she was asked not to. She decided to stop chasing a dangling carrot and put all of her cards out on the table. Had she not explicitly made the board REMOVE it from the agenda (rather than UAB pull it themselves), we wouldn't have some of the good will we have with the public eye now.

In my opinion, Garrison sacrificed herself at the end of Act II, to set us up for one hell of an Act III.

Very good portrayal. I wonder where she is now though? She could come forward with a lot of dirt.

I suspect that both she and Brian Mackin can point out where some bodies are buried. What we don't know is what was in her retirement settlement, what sort of non-disclosure clauses there are in it.

(11-07-2014 03:21 PM)Matrix Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 02:42 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  Brian Mackin is working his tail off, trying to find UAB a new conference!

I'm being serious. That's what I suspect he is doing.

Why? I love Conference USA. We're a perfect fit for it in all sports. Any idea which conference, provided this is true of what you suspect? Sun Belt? MAC?

I'd suspect KevMo is alluding to a conference like the Patriot League or Atlantic-10 (i.e., no football).

(11-07-2014 03:21 PM)Matrix Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 02:42 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  Brian Mackin is working his tail off, trying to find UAB a new conference!

I'm being serious. That's what I suspect he is doing.

Why? I love Conference USA. We're a perfect fit for it in all sports. Any idea which conference, provided this is true of what you suspect? Sun Belt? MAC?

If we don't have football we won't be allowed to remain in C-USA. It'll be the A-Sun or Sun Belt for the rest of our programs... and the BoT knows it. I'd love the A-10 if it does happen, but they're at 14 and I don't think they're looking to expand. I doubt the MAC takes us without football either.

(11-07-2014 03:27 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 02:52 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 01:39 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 11:48 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Everybody wanted Dr. G gone because she wouldn't fight. She is gone and we got Ray-Ray. Now you want Mackin gone because he won't fight. Who will that get us for an AD .... Finis the 5th ?

The difference is that Dr. G played the martyr and wasn't scared to be one once they pushed her to the edge (which is why she is now gone). We wouldn't even have a foot to stand on had Garrison not pushed through with the stadium proposal when she was asked not to. She decided to stop chasing a dangling carrot and put all of her cards out on the table. Had she not explicitly made the board REMOVE it from the agenda (rather than UAB pull it themselves), we wouldn't have some of the good will we have with the public eye now.

In my opinion, Garrison sacrificed herself at the end of Act II, to set us up for one hell of an Act III.

Very good portrayal. I wonder where she is now though? She could come forward with a lot of dirt.

I suspect that both she and Brian Mackin can point out where some bodies are buried. What we don't know is what was in her retirement settlement, what sort of non-disclosure clauses there are in it.

I'm sure there is. But she could come out and say "Non-Disclosure agreement be damned, this is where the bodies are buried' instead of taking dirty hush hush money.