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Dark-horse picks for major conferences
(11-07-2014 07:56 AM)roachman48 Wrote: (11-06-2014 11:27 PM)tigergg Wrote: (11-06-2014 11:02 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (11-06-2014 09:10 PM)cmt Wrote: I agree with Seth, even about the defense. I can not believe I am the optimist and not the realist this year.
I truly believe our guards last year and the year before and the year before and the year before held us back, and although we haven't seen these guards play, we do know they aren't those guards. Don't misunderstand me, I loved Joe and Chris and Geron and even MDJr, but they just weren't that great. I know these guards are, at least, "not that great" and I feel like a couple of them are already as good/better as we had last year. Who knows, one might even be a star.
I love Nick, but who have you ever seen him "lock down" on defense.
Who has Memphis had in JP's tenure that has played Defense? I can't think of anybody.. I'm not blaming it on Pastner but we haven't played good D in a long time.. I do question our defensive philosophy especially when we guard people 35 ft from the basket and they blow by our defender 90% of the time which in turn keeps our bigs in foul trouble having to help out.. I hope that changes this year!!
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I definitely agree about opponents blowing by our guards and driving freely to the hole. But, there were other times that geron would ABSOLUTELY lock down his opponent. And even the other three Gs would have moments/ games where they played really good D.
The inconsistency was frustrating.
While I'll agree Geron was good 2 yrs ago the hand checking rule I think hurt him..
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RE: Dark-horse picks for major conferences
(11-07-2014 08:08 AM)macgar32 Wrote: (11-07-2014 05:19 AM)holyterror Wrote: (11-06-2014 11:30 PM)snowtiger Wrote: When they start showing the top 10 defensive plays on Sports Center every night maybe things will change.
Dj was an excellent defender. It's why he was so available to rotate over and block shots, cause his man wasn't open to get the ball. Add 4 inches and 25 pounds and he would be in the nba.
DJ was excellent at blocking shots and helping...Any big who had a lick of basketball sense could score on DJ at will...He was just too small
Teams started to realize that DJ was a great help defender, but not a great post defender, so they began to post him up, forcing him to play straight up defense on a bigger player. It wasn't his fault that he was a 6'5" 180 lb guy trying to guard PF's though ...
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RE: Dark-horse picks for major conferences
(11-06-2014 01:49 PM)tigers1125 Wrote: Seth Greenberg:
"You gotta' go with Memphis. They have a great home court and great sense of ownership and passion with their fans. Kedren Johnson, who will be eligible, gives them an experienced point guard. Shaq Goodwin and Austin Nichols are two of the toughest frontcourt matchups in the conference. Nick King also gives them a lockdown defender on the wing. I just think that Memphis and Cincinnati, when you talk about dark horses, are the two teams that have legitimate shots at shaking it up."
Shows how much these guys do their research. Coach P was just griping the other day about King crossing his feet on D. This is something taught to 7-8 yr olds in competitive basketball.
So true.
I was just telling my grandson the other day to watch the cornerback's feet before he makes his cut on sweeps to the outside. Last night I saw him measure a guy up and made a great cut for about a 30 yard pick up.
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RE: Dark-horse picks for major conferences
RE: Nick, Josh did say on the radio yesterday he had spent almost all his practice time "on the wing".
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RE: Dark-horse picks for major conferences
(11-07-2014 07:56 AM)roachman48 Wrote: (11-06-2014 11:27 PM)tigergg Wrote: (11-06-2014 11:02 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (11-06-2014 09:10 PM)cmt Wrote: I agree with Seth, even about the defense. I can not believe I am the optimist and not the realist this year.
I truly believe our guards last year and the year before and the year before and the year before held us back, and although we haven't seen these guards play, we do know they aren't those guards. Don't misunderstand me, I loved Joe and Chris and Geron and even MDJr, but they just weren't that great. I know these guards are, at least, "not that great" and I feel like a couple of them are already as good/better as we had last year. Who knows, one might even be a star.
I love Nick, but who have you ever seen him "lock down" on defense.
Who has Memphis had in JP's tenure that has played Defense? I can't think of anybody.. I'm not blaming it on Pastner but we haven't played good D in a long time.. I do question our defensive philosophy especially when we guard people 35 ft from the basket and they blow by our defender 90% of the time which in turn keeps our bigs in foul trouble having to help out.. I hope that changes this year!!
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I definitely agree about opponents blowing by our guards and driving freely to the hole. But, there were other times that geron would ABSOLUTELY lock down his opponent. And even the other three Gs would have moments/ games where they played really good D.
The inconsistency was frustrating.
The last 5 minutes of Gonzaga game and the end of the Louisville game here at FEF the tigers played great defense
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RE: Dark-horse picks for major conferences
(11-07-2014 08:08 AM)macgar32 Wrote: (11-07-2014 05:19 AM)holyterror Wrote: (11-06-2014 11:30 PM)snowtiger Wrote: When they start showing the top 10 defensive plays on Sports Center every night maybe things will change.
Dj was an excellent defender. It's why he was so available to rotate over and block shots, cause his man wasn't open to get the ball. Add 4 inches and 25 pounds and he would be in the nba.
DJ was excellent at blocking shots and helping...Any big who had a lick of basketball sense could score on DJ at will...He was just too small
Yep. The only decent defender we've had the last 4 years has been Geron Johnson. Thank God Josh has finally realized this and has got off the "we gotta make shots to win" mantra. Or at least I hope he has. Nick Kings D was no worse than anyone else's was as a freshman. As little PT as he got last year, that stuff was way way overplayed.
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RE: Dark-horse picks for major conferences
(11-07-2014 10:16 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote: (11-07-2014 08:08 AM)macgar32 Wrote: (11-07-2014 05:19 AM)holyterror Wrote: (11-06-2014 11:30 PM)snowtiger Wrote: When they start showing the top 10 defensive plays on Sports Center every night maybe things will change.
Dj was an excellent defender. It's why he was so available to rotate over and block shots, cause his man wasn't open to get the ball. Add 4 inches and 25 pounds and he would be in the nba.
DJ was excellent at blocking shots and helping...Any big who had a lick of basketball sense could score on DJ at will...He was just too small
Yep. The only decent defender we've had the last 4 years has been Geron Johnson. Thank God Josh has finally realized this and has got off the "we gotta make shots to win" mantra. Or at least I hope he has. Nick Kings D was no worse than anyone else's was as a freshman. As little PT as he got last year, that stuff was way way overplayed.
Aside from not moving his feet very well; he also lost his man quite often on defense. Austin also had his moments, but King did have a lot of trouble.
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